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[*] posted on 9-11-2016 at 09:15 AM


Quote: Originally posted by DENNIS  

Trump probably wont be coming to Baja any time soon:


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It would appear that the Liberal Press and Govt. establishments everywhere (?) are trying their best and will stop at nothing to block change that they see as threatening. You reap what you sew as they will find out down the line------it ALWAYS happens eventually, and it is chaotic and so counterproductive, and often destructive to almost everybody. Many intelligent people will never learn, even thought the history is there to see for those that will look and pay attention. Socialism simply does not work with advanced humans, and never has, and yet that is where we are drifting too with blinders in place.

I hope I am wrong.

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[*] posted on 9-11-2016 at 09:23 AM


There really must be more options on the political spectrum than "conservative-socialist" . It is a shame that any political position is reduced to this simplistically dichotomous reduction....creates such divisiveness... :no:



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[*] posted on 9-11-2016 at 10:10 AM


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There really must be more options on the political spectrum than "conservative-socialist" . It is a shame that any political position is reduced to this simplistically dichotomous reduction....creates such divisiveness... :no:


Agree on the "divisiveness", Moto, but having had KISS (keep it simple stupid) pounded into my head in Law Enforcement Training ALL my life, it is hard to agree that "simplistic" is worse than complexity when complexity almost always leads to little or no action on problems.
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[*] posted on 9-11-2016 at 10:20 AM



The problem I see with initiatives such as the trump Non Grata grandstanding vote, is the governments are whipping their people into a frenzy, and the chance of it getting out of hand in Mexico is dangerous for expats.




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[*] posted on 9-11-2016 at 10:42 AM


An interesting, alarming, and excellent point, Dennis, and one I did not think of.
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[*] posted on 9-11-2016 at 11:34 AM


Quote: Originally posted by Barry A.  
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Agree on the "divisiveness", Moto, but having had KISS (keep it simple stupid) pounded into my head in Law Enforcement Training ALL my life, it is hard to agree that "simplistic" is worse than complexity when complexity almost always leads to little or no action on problems.


Barry,
The KISS principle is not always that simple....reactive solutions, while appearing to be the best solution, may not be be as effective as a responsive solutions that ameliorate the underlying issues.

My experience often is that effective change results from creating solutions that address the complexities....and in hindsight, I have seen the process as being "simple"....after untangling the problematic issues.

Simple is good....but not always the best framework.




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[*] posted on 9-11-2016 at 11:48 AM


Quote: Originally posted by motoged  
Quote: Originally posted by Barry A.  
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Agree on the "divisiveness", Moto, but having had KISS (keep it simple stupid) pounded into my head in Law Enforcement Training ALL my life, it is hard to agree that "simplistic" is worse than complexity when complexity almost always leads to little or no action on problems.


Barry,
The KISS principle is not always that simple....reactive solutions, while appearing to be the best solution, may not be be as effective as a responsive solutions that ameliorate the underlying issues.

My experience often is that effective change results from creating solutions that address the complexities....and in hindsight, I have seen the process as being "simple"....after untangling the problematic issues.

Simple is good....but not always the best framework.


I respect your views, and I believe "Simple" IS good, especially when complex stymies any solutions--------Comprehensive Immigration comes to mind------no progress of any significance for decades, and the illegals continue to flood in for a variety of reasons, and ALL Presidents before the present one have said something needs to be done, and NOW (but nobody does much of anything)-------I think it is time for SIMPLE!!!! Lets get on with it!!!

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[*] posted on 9-11-2016 at 12:09 PM


Quote: Originally posted by Barry A.  
Many intelligent people will never learn, even thought the history is there to see for those that will look and pay attention. Socialism simply does not work with advanced humans, and never has, and yet that is where we are drifting too with blinders in place.

I hope I am wrong.

Good luck with that.







Are you referring to communist style socialism? Everybody is pretty on board that it didn't work particularly well. If you are referring to modern socialism or social democracy you might take a second look at Germany, Ireland, Japan, Netherlands, Belgium, Sweden, Norway, Finland, Canada, and others who enjoy a good quality of life. Oh, and let's not forget our own Socialism in the US--Medicare--I tell you I don't know how many conservatives don't want the government involved in their lives and think anything the government does is bass-ackwards and would never submit to a national healthcare program but be damned sure they're accepting medicare--a national health care program-- to pay for their old age issues.
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[*] posted on 9-11-2016 at 03:10 PM


Mexicon--------I was perfectly happy with my Blue Cross/Blue Shield healthcare, but when I turned 65 (I think) they did not give me any choice--------I HAD to join Medicare but my BC/BS still costs me roughly the same as before. I much prefer choices!! So far I am happy with Medicare medically-speaking, but it sure does not save me any money----in fact I am paying considerably more than before (like about $200 per month more) The real problem, however, is that I hear that Medicare as it is now will go broke down the line------wow, that is just GREAT----------then what do we do?
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[*] posted on 9-11-2016 at 04:03 PM


Don't know, my mom Medicare plus supplemental and was only paying 150 a month, pretty good deal. Medicare is still funded but yes the tax rate or something else will have to rise as the boomers top weight the system...brave new world as we are living longer but not necessarily having more productive years--ie raising the retirement age to make SS more solvent.
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[*] posted on 9-11-2016 at 04:09 PM


Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  
Quote: Originally posted by Barry A.  

One perspective on the border: (a short video)

http://www.kusi.com/Clip/12667034/special-report-border-cris...


Well, that was a really silly interview. The interviewee was the union boss for border patrol agents.
I am mystified why public sector employees have a union,... I believe zero spewed by public sector union bosses.
Barry, you are really showing senility posting interviews with public sector union bosses as if the opinion have any meaning other than fleecing the public.
Why should government employees have any say in lobbying elected reps???? Huh? They are obviously self-interested and should not be in the room.
Overly generous public sector pensions are bad for the USA. flock the public sector unions!


Such a bunch of crap.
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[*] posted on 9-11-2016 at 04:56 PM


Quote: Originally posted by Bajahowodd  
Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  
Quote: Originally posted by Barry A.  

One perspective on the border: (a short video)

http://www.kusi.com/Clip/12667034/special-report-border-cris...


Well, that was a really silly interview. The interviewee was the union boss for border patrol agents.
I am mystified why public sector employees have a union,... I believe zero spewed by public sector union bosses.
Barry, you are really showing senility posting interviews with public sector union bosses as if the opinion have any meaning other than fleecing the public.
Why should government employees have any say in lobbying elected reps???? Huh? They are obviously self-interested and should not be in the room.
Overly generous public sector pensions are bad for the USA. flock the public sector unions!


Such a bunch of crap.


ALARM, ALARM--- somebody might be giving an opinion that I don't agree with!!! Bash them NOW and to h-ll with the truth!!!! I repeat, "One perspective on the border". I never said I agreed with it, tho the problem is real. I have never belonged to a Union other than the Laborer's Union which I was FORCED to join, or no worky construction!!! The whole idea of "Unions" makes me very uneasy. The idea is honorable, but it all get's totally out of hand once established. Me, I went to College to earn better money!!! and paid for it myself! My "Public pension" take home is $1,640 a month (or close to that) and I get NO Social Security, but I admit that my ex-wife gets one quarter of the pension, leaving me the $1,640 net. Only my Fed. taxes and Blue Cross is withheld from the gross----I pay Medicare out of pocket every 3 months. Maybe my "senility" causes me to miss-state everything, however-----watch out!!!! :rolleyes: Gawd forbid that ANYBODY have a different opinion than the committed Lefty!!!! :O
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[*] posted on 9-11-2016 at 07:09 PM


Just to set the record straight Goat. Those over paid government pensioners under the Old system get no Social Security, even though they may have paid in for years, (Just like teachers under the State system). Called an Offset that Reagan pushed through to save social security.

Under the new system (since 1982) its a 401K type plan, so you contributions are what you get in retirement. The days of beating on the Public employee (from a pension standpoint) are gone.
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[*] posted on 9-11-2016 at 07:12 PM


Quote: Originally posted by rts551  
Just to set the record straight Goat. Those over paid government pensioners under the Old system get no Social Security, even though they may have paid in for years, (Just like teachers under the State system). Called an Offset that Reagan pushed through to save social security.

Under the new system (since 1982) its a 401K type plan, so you contributions are what you get in retirement. The days of beating on the Public employee (from a pension standpoint) are gone.


Take one look at San Diego fire fighters. Lazy butts retire at age 45 with full pension, inflated by phony OT phony raises in last years of employment.
Crooks. Not heroes. Scourge on society. Leaches.
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[*] posted on 9-12-2016 at 07:16 AM


Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  
Quote: Originally posted by rts551  
Just to set the record straight Goat. Those over paid government pensioners under the Old system get no Social Security, even though they may have paid in for years, (Just like teachers under the State system). Called an Offset that Reagan pushed through to save social security.

Under the new system (since 1982) its a 401K type plan, so you contributions are what you get in retirement. The days of beating on the Public employee (from a pension standpoint) are gone.


Take one look at San Diego fire fighters. Lazy butts retire at age 45 with full pension, inflated by phony OT phony raises in last years of employment.
Crooks. Not heroes. Scourge on society. Leaches.


Then take it to them instead of using them as an example for all government pensioners.
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WOW....YUMEEE.




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[*] posted on 9-12-2016 at 04:51 PM


Yellowtail Martini:

Marinade 3-4 lbs Jurel in glass container (or pyrex) and one litre of Oso Negro Vodka for 24 hours with juice/rinds of 6 yellow lemons, well squeezed, refrigerated.

Discard fish, serve chilled w/ preferably Sierra San Fransisco Aceitunes.

You may smoke the Jurel afterwards, or just serve w/ the martini.

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