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Jonah
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Temp Import Permit for car when you want to stay >180days
I am driving a van and travel-trailer down to La Paz and plan to leave them there indefinitely. I am just beginning my temporary residency, I did the
US consulate part, I just need to do the Mexican immigration part. But at this point no TR visa in-hand. I would like to drive down from Tucson to
Topolobampo and take the ferry (for several reasons: half the miles, no mountains to go over with my rig). However I just learned that to go to the
state of Sinaloa I have to get a TIP (I believe for both the van and the trailer). I would be fine to do this but I read I have to give a deposit and
will get that back when I leave in <180days. I don't plan to leave in 180days because I will have my temp res visa.
I don't think I need a TIP to drive in the Baja Peninsula. It is looking like it is just not going to work to drive the mainland and take the ferry...
but I want to make sure I'm not missing something. Any advice would be appreciated. I've done both drives so I don't need to hear anything about the
road conditions. Thanks.
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You are seeking advice on how to break the law in Mexico?
You'll find lots of co-conspirators here!
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David K
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Guaymas to Santa Rosalia ferry is an option, but you will have one big grade to climb, south of Loreto... It was what everyone else does with
motorhomes, trailers, busses, semi truck 18-wheelers, so it is not impossible for you, hopefully!
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Quote: Originally posted by David K  | | Guaymas to Santa Rosalia ferry is an option, but you will have one big grade to climb, south of Loreto... It was what everyone else does with
motorhomes, trailers, busses, semi truck 18-wheelers, so it is not impossible for you, hopefully! |
David K that is an interesting option. That would avoid a couple big grades. Do you know if you have to have a TIP to take the ferry? Even if it is
going between two TIP-free areas?
Thanks!
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David K
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You are in the "Sonora Free Zone" which ends just south of Guaymas (no TIP needed).
However, double check this with Hook or other mainland Mexico Nomads to see if my info is still correct. I have not been to Guaymas in many years!
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I will be interested to hear about any information you may find. If you learn something from another source, please share it here!
I considered taking that route two years ago driving a small SUV pulling a small utility trailer. I don't remember the numbers well enough to quote
them here, but the cost was higher, and the hours crossing longer than I would have expected.
The exchange rate is in your favor since then, but the long passage was a deal breaker for me since I travel with a dog! I read some grim reports
from other travelers about the conditions and access to their pets.
If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!
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You might check here: http://www.bajaferries.com
http://www.bajaferries.com/faqs.aspx
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Friends traveled from Santa Rosalia on the ferry to Guaymas last year and did not need a TIP as they were going to Tucson and not further south on the
Mainland. But, you can email bajaferries or call them to get the correct information.
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The "Hassel-Free area of Sonora does extend just south of Guymas. To that point you will not need TIPs, the temporary import permits. What happens on
the other side of the Cortes, I don't know, and that will tell the story if you need TIPs to board the ferry. fish101's reply sounds like you're good
to go. Travellers driving other routes with two vehicles, towing, deeper into Mexico need a 10-year permit, and a 180-day TIP plus a deposit, on the
towed, to be paid for that, the time which will match their 180-day FMM, (the tourist card) if your situation will require that.
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I don't think David K (my good friend) or daveb are yet familiar with the changing of the INM guard in the Sonoyta and Northern Mexican States area.
INM is now strictly enforcing the Temporary Import laws.
There may still be a North America's Hobie championship series in Puerto Peņasco, but quite a number of racers have dropped out because of the now
enforced (any boat, including kayaks) TIP. That is a lot of deposits that people will have to pay at the port of entry, in addition to the extra
crossing time for the paperwork and bank time.
It has been well publicized that all northern mainland states will now be strictly enforcing all TIPs.
Baja will be the only alternative for no TIP. You will still have to pay the TIP at the La Paz or Guaymas ferry if taking vehicles and boats to the
mainland.
I suppose that there IS a way to get to the Mexico Mainland without the TIP, but one will have to cross from Algodones (perhaps Yuma) and points West.
Then drive back to the mainland along the Mexican roads. What I don't know is if there is a checkpoint in Mexico south of the San Luis point of entry
where one will be stopped and asked for point of entry information.
| Quote: Originally posted by David K | | Guaymas to Santa Rosalia ferry is an option, but you will have one big grade to climb, south of Loreto... It was what everyone else does with
motorhomes, trailers, busses, semi truck 18-wheelers, so it is not impossible for you, hopefully! |
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Udo. thanks for this new information. It represents quite a turnaround for some travelers crossing into Mexico, hoping to enjoy some time in Sonora.
Those "Hassel-Free Zone" signs will have to come down and we know how Mexico hates to remove a sign. Or place one.
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| Quote: Originally posted by daveB | | Udo. thanks for this new information. It represents quite a turnaround for some travelers crossing into Mexico, hoping to enjoy some time in Sonora.
Those "Hassel-Free Zone" signs will have to come down and we know how Mexico hates to remove a sign. Or place one. |
I drive to Sonora from LA 3-4 times a year. There is no turnaround or change.
For a vehicle only, no TIP required until a bit South of Guaymas. If you are taking atvs, dirt bikes, etc., you need a TIP for the vehicle and the
additional stuff (1 TIP covers vehicle and toys). Not 100% on a trailer, but assume it's the same.
You can do it online and they will mail it to you. Not that big of a deal. https://www.banjercito.com.mx/registroVehiculos/. They are good for up to six month.
For a boat over 4.5 meters you need a 10 year TIP in Baja or the mainland. Kayaks, Jetskis, and inflatables are exempt in Baja.
I suspect you'll need a permit for jetskis/trailer on the mainland, but not 100% sure. Doubt you need them for a kayak, but not 100%.
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UDO: I think you are giving out some dubious information. Where did you read that there will be no more no hassle zone in Sonora? Or did you just
mean that they will be enforcing the TIP program in Sonora OUTSIDE the no hassle zone? Just A few months ago there was talk of the no hassle zone
extending to Alamos
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Udo is confusing cars and boats, the poster is asking about a car, which does not require a TIP in Baja or the free zone including Sonora.
Boat TIP is required for any boat bigger than 4.5meters long throughout the country.
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David K
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Udo has kayaks on the roof of his FJ and that makes it need a TIP, apparently.
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Sonora is no longer a free zone...the new guard has changed that.
If you wish to make conjectures, go ahead, however...SONORA INM has changed.
| Quote: Originally posted by gnukid | Udo is confusing cars and boats, the poster is asking about a car, which does not require a TIP in Baja or the free zone including Sonora.
Boat TIP is required for any boat bigger than 4.5meters long throughout the country. |
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I got my information from the Hobie Cat racers (i get their newsletters). They are losing many racers because Sonora is no longer a free zone and they
are having to pay a TIP for any car AND watercraft being brought in. Including recreational kayaks.
Other than that I have no official information from the Mexican government (whom you know that they make up things as they go depending on who you
speak with).
| Quote: Originally posted by moisheh | | UDO: I think you are giving out some dubious information. Where did you read that there will be no more no hassle zone in Sonora? Or did you just
mean that they will be enforcing the TIP program in Sonora OUTSIDE the no hassle zone? Just A few months ago there was talk of the no hassle zone
extending to Alamos |
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INM and TIP
I don't think INM has anything to do with a Temporary Import Permit. Maybe Aduana, SAT or Hacienda
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What is ADUNA?
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Customs (Aduana = sorry, left off an "a")
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