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[*] posted on 12-13-2016 at 07:56 PM


Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  
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----I think portraying baja as empty desert for unregulated offroading and beer drinking while car camping is patheticly shallow. If i had a subscription to Outside, i would consider not renewing. Prettly lame edit ors to be publishing such fluff.


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[*] posted on 12-13-2016 at 10:58 PM


From the US Consulate in Tijuana webpage:

If you carry a knife on your person in Mexico, even a pocketknife . . .

You may be arrested and charged with possession of a deadly weapon;
You may spend weeks in jail waiting for trial, and tens of thousands of dollars in attorney’s fees, court costs, and fines;
If convicted, you may be sentenced to up to five years in a Mexican prison.

Claiming not to know about the law will not get you leniency from a police officer or the judicial system. Leave your firearms, ammunition, and knives at home. Don’t bring them into Mexico.


https://mx.usembassy.gov/embassy-consulates/tijuana/u-s-citi...

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[*] posted on 12-13-2016 at 11:43 PM


Outside magazine has always published "puff pieces" like this one.It is marginally factual and encourages one timers to act badly, in a foreign country. The future of off roading in Baja is in my opinion is in doubt as is. The make a buck guys taking wannabe racers into places they shouldn't be is going to be the finite. Its sad in a way, but maybe overdue.



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[*] posted on 12-14-2016 at 05:36 AM


Think there are those who see some truth in the article: fresh food, friendly people, solitude (if you want), off-roading (that I have some issue with when done illegally), and personal freedom.

The vast majority I think from the US will still not be interested in visiting Baja. The negative press far outweighs the positive. I've never met anyone who didn't have a negative reaction when I mention I live in Baja part of the year.

I say it's not for everyone and that ends the conversation.




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[*] posted on 12-15-2016 at 08:07 AM


Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  
Quote: Originally posted by BooJumMan  
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2nd article I've seen this year out of Outside Magazine where the author "discovers" Baja and decides it would be best to publish an article on how awesome Baja because it is so uncrowded, yet at the same time tell everyone to go. I just don't get it.


Most Writers selling pieces to travel mags like outside are lucky to get $500 pay for a fluff travel article like this. That's why you see the same old travel tales again and again. The low pay for travel articles doesnt allow for research or thought much beyond a couple hours of googling.

I think portraying baja as empty desert for unregulated offroading and beer drinking while car camping is patheticly shallow. If i had a subscription to Outside, i would consider not renewing. Prettly lame editors to be publishing such fluff.


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[*] posted on 12-15-2016 at 08:47 AM


The author of the article bought an older Land Rover and took it off-road in Baja, and wrote an article or two about the car and the experience. I think he likes Baja.
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[*] posted on 12-15-2016 at 09:01 AM


Thank you Mex Ted great story about Baja, why I'm here.
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[*] posted on 12-15-2016 at 08:02 PM
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While having a knife aboard is obviously a "possible" liability, in near 50 years of Baja travel, I NEVER encountered a problem with the authorities over ALWAYS having one handy.

During various "inspections" by customs and the Army, the Marine combat-style knife I carried under (or behind) the seat was found without any reaction other than "favorable" comments.

Of course, anytime that you're on the wrong side of a written law, you're vulnerable to arbitrary actions from the guys with the guns.

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[*] posted on 1-2-2017 at 08:15 PM


Quote: Originally posted by BigBearRider  
From the US Consulate in Tijuana webpage:

If you carry a knife on your person in Mexico, even a pocketknife . . .

You may be arrested and charged with possession of a deadly weapon;
You may spend weeks in jail waiting for trial, and tens of thousands of dollars in attorney’s fees, court costs, and fines;
If convicted, you may be sentenced to up to five years in a Mexican prison.

Claiming not to know about the law will not get you leniency from a police officer or the judicial system. Leave your firearms, ammunition, and knives at home. Don’t bring them into Mexico.


https://mx.usembassy.gov/embassy-consulates/tijuana/u-s-citi...

Interesting. But hard to take seriously since they sell machetes in Wal-Mart and other stores in LP! I carry and use one frequently when mtb'ing hacking protruding tree limbs, cactus and such on the trail. A very useful tool!



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[*] posted on 1-4-2017 at 07:41 AM


Quote: Originally posted by motoged  
Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  
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----I think portraying baja as empty desert for unregulated offroading and beer drinking while car camping is patheticly shallow. If i had a subscription to Outside, i would consider not renewing. Prettly lame edit ors to be publishing such fluff.


Yep, agree !


and so do i.
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[*] posted on 1-4-2017 at 08:38 AM


Quote: Originally posted by unbob  
Quote: Originally posted by BigBearRider  
From the US Consulate in Tijuana webpage:

If you carry a knife on your person in Mexico, even a pocketknife . . .

You may be arrested and charged with possession of a deadly weapon;
You may spend weeks in jail waiting for trial, and tens of thousands of dollars in attorney’s fees, court costs, and fines;
If convicted, you may be sentenced to up to five years in a Mexican prison.

Claiming not to know about the law will not get you leniency from a police officer or the judicial system. Leave your firearms, ammunition, and knives at home. Don’t bring them into Mexico.


https://mx.usembassy.gov/embassy-consulates/tijuana/u-s-citi...

Interesting. But hard to take seriously since they sell machetes in Wal-Mart and other stores in LP! I carry and use one frequently when mtb'ing hacking protruding tree limbs, cactus and such on the trail. A very useful tool!


Perhaps not to be dismissed easily based on US consumer logic. There is a "law" [I can't reference it at this moment] known to locals of varying stature, that a pocket knife is limited to a blade length of app. three inches. That includes Buck scabbard knives as well as all others. Perhaps the regulation is based upon concealability [is that a word?].
Machetes are tools as mentioned, just as is a shovel.
Again, the "law" is there only to keep power in the hands of the authorities.




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