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David K
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Vizcaino or Asuncion gets gas from El Sauzal (Baja Norte) too?
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capitolkat
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Today - Thursday
The SudCaliforniano reported that there were demonstrations in Cuidad Constitution, that the gas situation in Loreto was described as a panic, that
the blockade at Pichilingue was continuing and large semis were blocking the road, but letting cars and police/military/ambulances through.
I can delay leaving until next Wednesday, but have a booked-non-refundable week in Phoenix and lots of family get togethers planned starting on
Friday. So looking for thoughts and any idea when the protestors say they will have made their point. for those who haven't read all of the above we
are leaving from La Paz and are checking flights but very expensive and we drive so we can bring back some things we have ordered for the house and
pool.
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capitolkat
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Need to go North no later than next Wednesday
WE have along planned trip to Phoenix and need to be there by the 13th. WE have a week booked-non refundable- in Phoenix starting on the 13th and lots
of family get togethers. we are driving from La Paz, and are trying to figure out if anyone has any good info on how long this might last.
The refinery in La paz has been blocked and local stations in La Paz seem to be fine so far, but demonstrations are reported in Cuidad Constitution in
SudCAliforniano.
Just looking for educated thoughts on travel next week North to Ensenada and on to Phoenix. Norm
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shari
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Yesterday there was a short road blockade by police at the Pemex at the south end of town in Guerrero Negro early in the morning but other stations
were open as of 4 in the afternoon but rumour was they would close at 5. Vizcaino was business as usual and no lines. We still have gas in Asuncion
too but if trucks cant get through that will change.
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Howard
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Loreto update
The gas stations in Loreto have no lines today and are pumping gas. I am not sure if they have all types but it looks like business is back to normal.
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we grow old because we stop playing
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TMW
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Gas Problems in Baja
From Discover Baja yesterday 1/4/17:
Due to the deregulation of Mexico's fuel industry, gas prices in Mexico rose on January 1, 2017. Prices will now vary from station to station but
average around $3.60/gallon for premium, $3.40/gallon for magna, and $3.65/gallon for diesel (prices converted to U.S. dollars). The gas price
increases have sparked protests in mainland Mexico and in Baja.
Due to protests, Highway Mexico 1 is currently closed in both directions at Camalu, Vicente Guerrero, and San Quintín. Most gas stations between
Ensenada and San Quintín are currently taped off and closed. There are also protests in Ciudad Constitución and La Paz. We advise you to delay travel
until the roads are passable again. If you are in Baja, you should fill up on fuel if stations around you are open.
We will keep everyone updated on the Discover Baja Road Conditions Page.
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mtnpop
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any info 5 Mexicali, san felipe or Guerro Negro on 1 would be greatly appreciated...
we are headed that way next week,,, plan on crossing at San Luis usually top off on U.S. side and San Felipe...
May need to top off south of Mexecali ???
Diesel only,,,, last month there was Diesel available at Gonzoga station but maybe not for long...
Common sense is a flower that doesn\'t grow in everyone\'s garden.....
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aguachico
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This sucks. I believe it will be short lived.
I was told Baja Norte gas stops at El Rosario.
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chuckie
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It may have other consequences, this affects every Mexican citizen....Read the mainland news...
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David K
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Nope, San Luis Gonzaga, Bahia de los Angeles, and Villa Jesus Maria all get their gas from El Sauzal or Mexicali Pemex depots. I was surprised when
Shari said a Pemex truck was headed to her area from Norte.
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David K
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Quote: Originally posted by mtnpop  | any info 5 Mexicali, san felipe or Guerro Negro on 1 would be greatly appreciated...
we are headed that way next week,,, plan on crossing at San Luis usually top off on U.S. side and San Felipe...
May need to top off south of Mexecali ???
Diesel only,,,, last month there was Diesel available at Gonzoga station but maybe not for long... |
San Felipe (about 6 stations) no problem two days ago
Puertecitos no problem a week ago
San Luis Gonzaga no problem two days ago
Bahia de los Angeles (2 stations) no problem two days ago
If you top at San Felipe, you can drive easily to Guerrero Negro on a tank.
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David K
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| Quote: Originally posted by TMW | From Discover Baja yesterday 1/4/17:
Due to the deregulation of Mexico's fuel industry, gas prices in Mexico rose on January 1, 2017. Prices will now vary from station to station but
average around $3.60/gallon for premium, $3.40/gallon for magna, and $3.65/gallon for diesel (prices converted to U.S. dollars). The gas price
increases have sparked protests in mainland Mexico and in Baja.
Due to protests, Highway Mexico 1 is currently closed in both directions at Camalu, Vicente Guerrero, and San Quintín. Most gas stations between
Ensenada and San Quintín are currently taped off and closed. There are also protests in Ciudad Constitución and La Paz. We advise you to delay travel
until the roads are passable again. If you are in Baja, you should fill up on fuel if stations around you are open.
We will keep everyone updated on the Discover Baja Road Conditions Page.
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Discover Baja's prices are way off.
Magna is around 16.16/liter and Premium 17.93.
3.785 liters per galon, so 16.16 x 3.785 = 61.17 pesos per gallon.
20 pesos per dollar, so 61.17 / 20 = US$3.06/ gallon
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rts551
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DO NOT go by what happened 2 days ago. Things are changing every hour. Many stations closing because of the run on gas and for no other reason.
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Fernweh
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I just drove through Chametla (north of La Paz), and it looked like the gate/driveway to one of the fuel trucking companies was blocked by various
vehicles......one even was a newer BMW X3 or X5.
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Shadowman
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Discover Baja's prices are way off.
Magna is around 16.16/liter and Premium 17.93.
3.785 liters per galon, so 16.16 x 3.785 = 61.17 pesos per gallon.
20 pesos per dollar, so 61.17 / 20 = US$3.06/ gallon
Actually Discover Baja is correct using imperial gallon measurement!
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David K
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| Quote: Originally posted by Shadowman | Discover Baja's prices are way off.
Magna is around 16.16/liter and Premium 17.93.
3.785 liters per galon, so 16.16 x 3.785 = 61.17 pesos per gallon.
20 pesos per dollar, so 61.17 / 20 = US$3.06/ gallon
Actually Discover Baja is correct using imperial gallon measurement! |
Where do they still use Imperial gallons and does anyone in the United States know the difference? LOL
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DaliDali
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The Army will be all over the protesters in La Paz soon enough.
They can't shut down commerce for long before people start screaming to do something.
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Pescador
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I talked to the distributor of gasoline for BCS, Diaz, and they indicated no problems with tankers which originate in La Paz. One of the drivers, who
is a friend, in Santa Rosalia, said they were doing business as normal, but were on the lookout for problems, of which there have been none.
The stations that were closed mostly did that from fear of protesters, who had seen the criminal elements doing their thing on the mainland and the
area north of San Quintin.
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capitolkat
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Thanks Pescador
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weebray
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Small sporadic protests here in La Paz this afternoon but the fuel keeps on flowing. Filled up around 2PM, no lines. My tank now holds about 120
pesos more fuel this year as compared to last.
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