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larryC
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Left LA Bay yesterday the morning the 5th and drove to GN to see the whales, came back through GN and topped off with diesel at the first station in
town. No lines and no problems at any of the stations in town. Got back to LA Bay and the diesel pumps were blocked off at Marta's station, so
evidently still no diesel here in Bahia. I have enough diesel stored in my garage so I will top off and head to Calexico on Tuesday. I'll let you know
what I see.
Off grid, 12-190 watt evergreen solar panels on solar trackers, 2-3648 stacked Outback inverters, 610ah LiFePo4 48v battery bank, FM 60 and MX60
Outback charge controllers, X-240 Outback transformer for 240v from inverters, 6500 watt Kubota diesel generator.
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elskel
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I am not scheduled, to make the drive until the 24th. We will see what happens. Sounds like some stations are not ordering more fuel? Does anyone know
if any trucks of fuel, are actually leaving La Paz and up North by Ensenada for deliveries. Maybe Anthony, Baja Cactus might chime in on this topic?
When more of these stations run out, the real crunch will be felt to the economy.
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David K
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Yes, four whole days ago! LOL
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chuckie
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Dumb
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mojo_norte
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No Gasolina Los BaRRiles this AM
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chuckie
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Good article on this whole situation in the NY Times this morning.
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shari
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Mood: there is no reality except the one contained within us "Herman Hesse"
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I just called El Rosario Pemex to get info for guests heading down and they said no problema....gas as usual there which is great news.
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chuckie
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^They may even get more...Cops are breaking some tankers loose...
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DENNIS
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[rquote=1062996&tid=85338&author=lencho
By police? Why?  [/rquote]
PEMEX is federal property?
"YOU CAN'T LITTER ALUMINUM"
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David K
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Pemex is a government-controlled fuel distribution monopoly. The stations are franchises that are run under tight restrictions by the government. Ah,
socialism... failed everywhere it is tried!
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shari
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Mood: there is no reality except the one contained within us "Herman Hesse"
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there were just a handful of protesters and the municiple cops had their cars blocking the road...maybe they were just there keeping an eye on things?
My friend who reported this just went around them via a side street and they were gone a half hour later.
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charliemanson
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First [people to freak out are in La Ventana as witnessed yesterday with gringos yelling at the attendant about the situation, as she could control
what is a nonissue at this point. Much gas here in la paz and no grey haired people loosing control.
We had a 1\4 tank and just had to stop to watch the show then drove on.
Tourist season can be entertaining.
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Lee
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A neighbor said there was a 1/2 mile line for the Pemex in Pescadero 2 days ago. No line yesterday at 8am or 4pm when I went through, or today.
No line today at Pemex N. Todos.
South bound N. end of Pescadero has a Federal checkpoint at Noon Friday. Only saw MX cars pulled over.
US Marines: providing enemies of America an opportunity to die for their country since 1775.
What I say before any important decision.
F*ck it.
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mtgoat666
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Quote: Originally posted by David K  | | Pemex is a government-controlled fuel distribution monopoly. The stations are franchises that are run under tight restrictions by the government. Ah,
socialism... failed everywhere it is tried! |
Failed? Says who?
All modern western democracies have a blend of market- and socialism-based systems. Based on poverty rate, longevity and homocide rates, a lot of
western democracies appear to be doing a better job than usa!
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chuckie
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So? Socialism is a gas company selling gas?
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DaliDali
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For Christ sake.....keep the damn politics out of this.
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pauldavidmena
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| Quote: Originally posted by brucedog | I've not been paying attention down here in La Ventana. Yesterday we noticed that there was a long line at the Pemex and I found out about the
protests. I decided to hit up the pemex outside of town towards Los Planes. The attendant told me that they will pump gas until they run out which
will probably be today.
Has anybody heard anything about air travel being disrupted? |
Good point. If there are still gas shortages when I fly down from Boston in a couple of weeks, I just might have to stay. 
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Nashville Frank
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| Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 | | Quote: Originally posted by David K | | Pemex is a government-controlled fuel distribution monopoly. The stations are franchises that are run under tight restrictions by the government. Ah,
socialism... failed everywhere it is tried! |
Failed? Says who?
All modern western democracies have a blend of market- and socialism-based systems. Based on poverty rate, longevity and homocide rates, a lot of
western democracies appear to be doing a better job than usa!
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Not always do they do a better job! Those who see Europe as a success, don't see their mega-high tax structure, that takes from everyone and gives to
who? There is still poverty and disease in these countries, its just somewhat dusguied. When I was living there 1991 to 1995, I was paying $4.50 a
gallon for gas! It was that high because it was so heavily taxed, like everything else. They did have a medical system that provided cheap care, but
the trade off was, at times, inferior care or long waits for treatment. We solved some of our medical inadequacies by going outside of the network and
hiring our "own" doctor, who even did house calls (or sent his junior partner). But, I was only able to do this because I had access to dollars to
pay him. So it was sort of a free market thing going on. But, my neighbors did not have the wherewithal to do this.
This European experience helped me see what a blessing nationalized medicine would be, but also some of its limitations.
Now, with the influx of millions of refugees, and lingering socialist ideas, the EU is collapsing!
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Sweetwater
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| Quote: Originally posted by shari | | I just called El Rosario Pemex to get info for guests heading down and they said no problema....gas as usual there which is great news.
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Moto friends driving south on the mainland for the past 4 days report no problem finding and purchasing gasoline. They spent last night in Mazatlan
and heading south this morning staying on main highways. I suspect Baja will sort itself out shortly.
Everbody\'s preachin\' at me that we all wanna git to heaven, trouble is, nobody wants to die to git there.-BB King
Reality is what does not go away when you stop believing in it. -Philip K Dick
Nothing is worse than active ignorance. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe(1749-1832, German writer, artist and politician)
When choosing between two evils, I always like to try the one I\'ve never tried before. - Mae West
Experience is what keeps a man who makes the same mistake twice from admitting it the third time around.
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David K
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| Quote: Originally posted by Nashville Frank | | Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 | | Quote: Originally posted by David K | | Pemex is a government-controlled fuel distribution monopoly. The stations are franchises that are run under tight restrictions by the government. Ah,
socialism... failed everywhere it is tried! |
Failed? Says who?
All modern western democracies have a blend of market- and socialism-based systems. Based on poverty rate, longevity and homocide rates, a lot of
western democracies appear to be doing a better job than usa!
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Not always do they do a better job! Those who see Europe as a success, don't see their mega-high tax structure, that takes from everyone and gives to
who? There is still poverty and disease in these countries, its just somewhat dusguied. When I was living there 1991 to 1995, I was paying $4.50 a
gallon for gas! It was that high because it was so heavily taxed, like everything else. They did have a medical system that provided cheap care, but
the trade off was, at times, inferior care or long waits for treatment. We solved some of our medical inadequacies by going outside of the network and
hiring our "own" doctor, who even did house calls (or sent his junior partner). But, I was only able to do this because I had access to dollars to
pay him. So it was sort of a free market thing going on. But, my neighbors did not have the wherewithal to do this.
This European experience helped me see what a blessing nationalized medicine would be, but also some of its limitations.
Now, with the influx of millions of refugees, and lingering socialist ideas, the EU is collapsing! |
Your personal observations are enlightening with the truth of government meddling in what should be private business (which must provide the best
product or service to succeed).
Government (using your tax dollars) doesn't have to be good or efficient (at least between elections). It does have to be able to take your money,
however!
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