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unbob
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Protests in Mexico Push Country to Brink of Revolution and Nobody’s Talking About It
Mexico is ripe for revolution. Whether it’s triggered now by the gas gouging and subsequent inflation or in the near future, it’s coming — and we
should be talking about it.
http://theantimedia.org/protests-mexico-brink-revolution/
"I'm too young to be this old!"
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MrBillM
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Familiar Territory
If you were to count the number of times Mexico has been on the verge...............................
You'd lose count.
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greengoes
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Revolution? No. Anarchy? Maybe.
You need leaders for a revolution and none have applied for the job yet.
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Where is Pancho now that we need him??
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Why there is no need or a popular push for a revolution (from what I hear in Mexico):
The food, beer, and tequila is good and they can vote for more than just one person or political party... but mostly, because the food is good.
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DENNIS
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Nonsense. The U.S. Merida Initiative didn't arm to the teeth disgruntled citizens in a gas line. The government has all the guns.
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I doubt the latest problems in Mexico about oil, will cause the country to be on the brink of revolution, but it's an interesting idea, and perhaps
there should be a revolution in Mexico, and in the USA for that matter, because I predicts things will get real bad for the masses in the US very
soon.
However, it's a good article, that cited the problems coming from "Neoliberal" policies that have left the working class behind.
Another word for "Neoliberal" is conservative polices modeled after the absolute worst of American capitalism, and the "privatization" of Mexican
industries, and putting it in the control of a handful of rich individuals who then have a monopoly on the industry.
From the article:
Neoliberal policies left the working class behind
NAFTA was a contentious issue in the 2016 U.S. presidential election, but it’s just as controversial in Mexico, if not more so. The grand 1994 “free
trade” scheme, signed into law by Bill Clinton, saw a dramatic redesign of both the U.S. and Mexican economic landscapes. Corn farmers, long a vital
factor in Mexico’s peasant farming economy, were wiped out by low-priced corn subsidized by the U.S. government, which immediately flooded Mexican
markets after NAFTA was passed. The Mexican immigration crisis at the U.S.’ southern border soon followed.
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JJJ comments:
Even in 2014, most Mexicans knew that privatization of Mexico oil was just a scheme to enrich the 1% and that 1930's President Lázaro Cárdenas, had
the right idea of kicking out Standard Oil. Mexico, should have just said No to American oil companies like Exxon, that say they want to help Mexico
with it's aging oil problems at PEMEX.
The problem is US companies like Exxon, refuse to help Mexico extract that hard to get deep ocean oil, without getting getting a cut of the profits
and by making Mexico turn over part of Mexico's natural resources to foreign companies like Exxon.
So moving forward PEMEX that has historically distributed its profits among the Mexican population, will help it's people less and less, while the
oil profits go into the hands of rich Mexicans, and foreign US corporations.
So ""gasolinazo" was easy to predict, knowing that with privatizing of the oil industry, that Mexico could no longer subsidies gasoline prices.
It also doesn't help that Mexico now has to import the majority of it's oil on the open market, because of it's aging infrastructural problems, that
again, foreign companies didn't want to help without a major cut of the profits, which really amount to turning over ownership to foreign companies.
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A few articles in 2014 that knew privatization would be a bad thing:
The Privatization of Mexico's Oil Is a Scheme to Enrich the 1%
Changes to Mexican energy policy will accelerate inequality and environmental devastation.
http://www.alternet.org/world/privatization-mexicos-oil-sche...
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Privatising Mexico's oil industry spells disaster
Who can deny that Mexico is one of the most admired cradles of civilisation, with its culture and history considered an integral part of the world's
historical heritage. Yet, Mexico is also a country whose population for centuries has been raped by corrupt authoritarian governments; it is a country
which has suffered domestic and regional conflicts leading to foreign interventions backing extractive business interests.
http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2014/12/privatising...
[Edited on 1-13-2017 by JoeJustJoe]
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I think Pancho is still at Punta/Bahia San Raphael....and he has been there 31 years, he says 
Don't believe everything you think....
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SAN RAFAEL
Yes, he is still there as of Jan. 1, 2017 when I visited with him. Only thing, he doesn't have the name Villa!
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i saw poncho driving through mulege yesterday
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Mexico’s Refinery Output Slides as Government Opens Fuel Market
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-09-28/mexico-s-...
This shouldn't have come as a shock ... to some
And one large refinery in Mexico City was closed due to "air pollution" .. not sure how many they have going, but, would imagine not enough ... and
guess what Mexico is broke ... go figure
Things would appear to be getting even worse ... due to external factors from the United States on Immigration and the export of goods produced in
Mexico and then sold in the United States
Some very difficult times for Mexico and/or its people
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The unrest is NOT going to go away..Too many more irritants following on....I am thinking the people, altho historicly long suffering and patient,
have had about enough. Revolution? Maybe...Several legislators are calling for what they call a "quiet revolution" Who knows what that
means...Anarchy? Likely....In any event, much stress on the infrastructures..Have a plan...
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If you read between the lines of Wesson's "Blomberg article, you will see that Mexico is in a quandary, and the US oil companies are like vultures
circling above, and it will only get worse, if Rex Tillerson, makes it past the confirmation hearing and represents ExxonMobil, as the Secretary of
State. ( I know on paper he is officially retired from Exxon, but who believes that?)
It's almost funny reading the article, pretty much saying Mexico should close their refineries, and just import foreign oil, and be at the mercy of
foreign countries.
The goal, or lie was to bring in outside investments to open competition in order to offset rapid decline in oil production. But that's not working
out either, at least not for the Mexicans.
So according to the article, bringing in outside investments partners could result in losing
100 billion pesos a year.
This is the way I see it, if I had a pipe leak in my house, I call a big plumbing company to fix the leaking pipe, and they tell me I need to get the
whole house re-piped but I can't afford it. I then offer to get a bank loan, and pay the plumbing company, but they refuse the bank loan, and tell me
the only way we will will re-pipe the whole house, is if I agree to put plumbing companies name on the title of the house, and if any equity comes
from the house, they want a major cut of any profits.
The USA and US companies, especially oil companies truly are evil, and stuff like this has been going on for years in Latin America.
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Highlights from the "Blomberg" article:
Mexico opened its energy industry to outside investment and more competition in 2013 in a bid to offset a rapid decline in oil
production.
I wouldn’t be surprised if some of the Mexican refineries close once they liberalize the market,” Andrew Echlin, an oil products analyst at
Energy Aspects Ltd., said on the phone from New York. “Pemex’s refineries clearly need a lot of money put into them,
Mexico could eliminate government-set fuel prices as soon as next year as it works to open the energy market. Other recent reforms have
enabled private companies to buy stakes in Pemex’s refineries and to sell and distribute fuel in Mexico.
Pemex Chief Executive Officer Jose Antonio Gonzalez Anaya said in an April 19 interview at Bloomberg’s New York office that bringing in
partners may include giving up an operating interest in refineries, which he said lose 100 billion pesos a year.
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People are tired of a corrupt thieving government. In the name of free enterprise the poor people are screwed again.
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Quote: Originally posted by norte  | | People are tired of a corrupt thieving government. In the name of free enterprise the poor people are screwed again. |
So.....what are they going to do about it?
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Dennis, I suspect that there will be some leadership emerge before long...What will they do? It may be the "quiet revolution" that is being talked
about by some Mexican legislators, it may be a general disruption of process, it may be nothing...I doubt the latter....Lets hope it isn't too violent
and chaotic...
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| Quote: Originally posted by norte | | People are tired of a corrupt thieving government. In the name of free enterprise the poor people are screwed again. |
It is not free enterprise if the government controls the industry, it is socialism. Government's job is to create a condition where free enterprise
can thrive, create jobs, products, and services, that benefit everyone. Over regulation and over taxation is just government greed. Down with Big
Government!
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| Quote: Originally posted by David K |
It is not free enterprise if the government controls the industry, it is socialism. Government's job is to create a condition where free enterprise
can thrive, create jobs, products, and services, that benefit everyone. Over regulation and over taxation is just government greed. Down with Big
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So nice to see you have such a fresh new view on the political front...and your new boy there is doing such a fine job of draining the swamp....
Hero????
NOT
Don't believe everything you think....
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| Quote: Originally posted by David K | | Quote: Originally posted by norte | | People are tired of a corrupt thieving government. In the name of free enterprise the poor people are screwed again. |
It is not free enterprise if the government controls the industry, it is socialism. Government's job is to create a condition where free enterprise
can thrive, create jobs, products, and services, that benefit everyone. Over regulation and over taxation is just government greed. Down with Big
Government! |
Yes they just took the first step in deregulation...Seems the common folk were happy with "socialism" at least as you define it.
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The U.S hasn't built a refinery in 30 years due to increased environmental restrictions. But we have expanded the existing one's and increased
production.
Mexico hasn't built a new refinery in 40 years and not maintained the ones they have. The keystone pipeline will bring oil to the gulf region
without drilling a single offshore hole. If mexico would allow Exxon to build refineries in Northern Mexico there wil be plenty of GAS for all.
Today Gas in yuma is $2.05. California $$2.89. Baja $3.99. Why? Let the market forces play out. People vote with their feet, mostly.
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