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David K
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Taking Requests... Back country of Baja, History, Four wheeling, Hiking...
Please, if you have seen my many photos and travel details at VivaBaja.com, or here on Baja Nomad... and there are some unanswered questions you
have...
Or, is there some place you are interested in or some historical information I might have in my library I can look up for you...
Please ask away!
BUT... Don't ask me where the LOST MISSION is!!!
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Mexitron
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I have a request: I need someone to drop me off in the San Pedro Martir so I can hike south to the Matomi area, and then pick me up at La
Huertita.
Actually, I always wanted to do that hike.....that's got to be some country in there--Blue Palms and lava mesas meeting the southern flank of the pine
forests.
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4baja
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weres the coldest beer in baja? 
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by 4baja
weres the coldest beer in baja? |
That's easy... In YOUR cooler!!!
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Barry A.
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David, Is it possible to-------
drive south down the west side of the Laguna Salada, along the base of the Sierra Juarez, and eventually pop out on the pavement of the Ensenada/San
Felipe highway? I believe that it used to be possible, but have not heard any recent news---------also, if possible, can it be done in a normal
4-wheel drive vehicle (as opposed to a "rock-crawler" speciality vehicle)? Barry
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David K
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Hi Barry,
I am going to outline what I understand from reading Neal Johns, Baja Ken, and others as I am not familiar with the area south of El Mano Canyon (Baja
Almanac Map 6, U-6)....
You can continue on south to the bottom of the 'Summit' road (below El Jamau) Map 8, V-2...
There you have intercepted the WWII Pole Line Road... which you take east along Arroyo Jacuegel and eventually meet Arroyo Grande... Map 9, Y-2.
The easiest route out is to go northeast to La Ventana, on Hwy. 5, but there is an older road not on the Almanac that has been used for off road
racing which will take you south to Hwy. 3 about 15 mi. west of Hwy. 5... or another road that takes to straight to Hwy. 5, near El Chinero mountain
(north side).
The road shown in the Almanac following Arroyo Grande back west and south to San Matias Pass is blocked by a dam.
TheSquareCircle knows the region very well... I invite him or anyone who has traveled the area to verify or post better details.
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David K
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Here is the area I mentioned above (Pole Line Road)
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David K
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Here is a close up of the critical junction just north of LA PALMITA to get you to the Pole Line Road at the bottom of the Jamau grade ('The Summit').
This is from Neal Johns' notes...
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YZ400
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Arroyo Grande South Exit
David,
Do I understand you correctly that the Arroyo Grande Road going south to HWY 3 at Choyall (North enterance to Laguna Daiblo) is blocked by a dam?
I am about to try that in about a weeks time on a bike with a buddy. I'm going to try going down El mano via Laguna Hanson as well.
Good timing with your question Barry.
Thanks,
Nadim
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John M
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I was on a part of the section David is referring to with Neal Johns this past December (bottom of Summit, pole line, canyon el enmedio). I wouldn't
say that it is quite as straightforward as the map, and comments by David might make it seem. I'd suggest a bit further research. In fact, Neal and I
were talking about very this route just yesterday, map books in hand, but I'd rather not comment as I am not familiar enough to keep you from getting
messed up. Perhaps Neal would see these posts and comment. On the other hand, being in a 4x4 might make the route finding seem a lot more challenging
that it would be to a bike rider.
[Edited on 2-11-2005 by John M]
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Neal Johns
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Anyone wanting maps of the area south of Laguna Salada email me (large file .jpg). I am aridneal at earthlinkdotnet
I bet you can fix that address...
My motto:
Never let a Dragon pass by without pulling its tail!
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David K
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Neal, how about the question of the Arroyo Grande road? Can you get to San Matias Pass or is there a dam blocking the way? Can a motorcycle get around
the dam, if it blocks autos? Thanks!
Photo of Neal's truck on the Pole Line Road... Marian driving...
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YZ400
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Laguna Salada
Neal,
I just e-mailed you.
Thanks,
Nadim
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Barry A.
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Thank you David, and Neal, and others----
Neal----
I will e-mail you shortly-----am very interested in your maps, and counsel.
Barry
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pappy
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mexitron-so, when we going to do that hike??!!!
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Mexitron
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Whenever we can find a driver pappy! Have to be in a wet season so we don't have to carry water....hmmmm, right about now is sounding good....too
busy at work though, and the cat has some nasty asthma/allergy thing going on--4 pills a day--brutal.....ever tried to get a pill down a cat?
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yankeeirishman
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John Steinbeck. "The Log from Sea of Cortez". If you have read this book, there is a reference to a hunting trip they took with a local rancher. It
provides information of a spot where getting to it, was "crawling on their hands and knees on a very narrow ledge, only to meet a great plateau with a
waterfall. I assumed this was very near San Felipe! Any ideas from the Baja Guru? I would love to locate this old trail. If you haven?t read this
book, then do!!!!
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Mexitron
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Great reading Steinbeck, eh?! I think they're near Puerto Escondido, below Loreto, which would put them in the Sierra de la Gigantea. There's a
drainage in the area named El Peloteado which looks like its on a "great plateau". That's my best guess. Thanks for reminding me about this
fantastic book, its time to reread it!
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yankeeirishman
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The book reverts anyone into a instant explorer during the reading! I said San Felipe because as they are going the coastline port by port in the
book....it is very near SF. Correct me if I am wrong, PLEZ! You know, those few pages of the hunting party, just grabbed me by the ass! I have to
repeat history!
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bajalou
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Mexitron - pappy
Be glad to help getting you into the san Pedro Matir - Matomi or wherever
Not much good on getting you out the other side tho.
No Bad Days
\"Never argue with an idiot. People watching may not be able to tell the difference\"
\"The trouble with doing nothing is - how do I know when I\'m done?\"
Nomad Baja Interactive map
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