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Beagle
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Baja after The Wall...
Dude has some good points. I like to pretend like it won't matter but there's a part of me that knows it will.
http://www.theinertia.com/surf/surfing-in-baja-after-the-wal...
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alacran
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There will be no wall.
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ElCap
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That author is clueless about Baja, in my opinion.
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woody with a view
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Hey, he's a seasoned veteran with 7 trips under his belt!
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Hook
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The writer is underestimating the influence of gringos spending dollars (well, maybe not surfers quite as much; they can be a, well, frugal lot) in
remote places and how much the local Mexican depend on that.
Seriously, if gringo surfers with dollars (even converted to pesos) arent going to go to remote areas like the Seven Sisters, who is?
I think reality will set in, once the hysteria settles down. With as high as Mexico's poverty level is, imagine what it will be like if they
discourage gringos?
[Edited on 2-1-2017 by Hook]
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bajaguy
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All one has to do is look at the effect closing the border had on the economy of Baja & Mexico after 9-1-1. The money spent by tourists from NOB
and the money spent by full or part time American residents is quite a chunk of change
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Beagle
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Quote: Originally posted by Hook  | The writer is underestimating the influence of gringos spending dollars (well, maybe not surfers quite as much; they can be a, well, frugal lot) in
remote places and how much the local Mexican depend on that.
Seriously, if gringo surfers with dollars (even converted to pesos) arent going to go to remote areas like the Seven Sisters, who is?
I think reality will set in, once the hysteria settles down. With as high as Mexico's poverty level is, imagine what it will be like if they
discourage gringos?
[Edited on 2-1-2017 by Hook] |
This is what I want to believe, Hook. I really do. I guess anything can happen at this point. But I 'm gonna stay positive. Or do my best.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: Originally posted by bajaguy | | All one has to do is look at the effect closing the border had on the economy of Baja & Mexico after 9-1-1. The money spent by tourists from NOB
and the money spent by full or part time American residents is quite a chunk of change |
You should have seen it down here during Nixon's "Operation Intercept." Baja was a ghost town. Store owners just stood in front of their businesses
with stunned looks on their faces.
Not a pretty sight.
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Nashville Frank
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| Quote: Originally posted by DENNIS |
You should have seen it down here during Nixon's "Operation Intercept." Baja was a ghost town. Store owners just stood in front of their businesses
with stunned looks on their faces.
Not a pretty sight.
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Ah yes, Operation Intercept, fall of 1969! I remember it NOT at all...as a college freshman all we talked about was girls and Vietnam.
I found this that shows an erie similarity to today:
Reported in the New York Times: "delays as long as six hours have kept outraged motorists waiting in line in the broiling sun ... some travelers have
been obliged to strip naked ... thousands of Mexican workers have lost their jobs in the United States because of the customs inspection delay ...
millions of innocent people have been harassed. Border cities are facing economic collapse and tempers are wearing thin. . . ." President Diaz was
even quoted as saying that Operation Intercept had created "a wall of suspicion" between Mexico and America.
So Dennis, were you living down in BC back then?
[Edited on 2-1-2017 by Nashville Frank]
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DENNIS
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Frequent visitor. Lived up in Newport Beach....only a sixpak away.
[Edited on 2-1-2017 by DENNIS]
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akshadow
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wall?
Isn't there already a wall/fence for much of Baja.
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mulegemichael
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Dennis...i was camped in a driftwood shelter out on the sand spit at punta banda during those times...for around a year or so...we were turned back at
the border when a "snitch" caught my buddy wearing a wig to cover up his long hair...i just took out my pocketknife and cut it off....fun times!
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Barry A.
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Yes!!! A serious fence that looks like a wall.
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Hey Dennis 60's and early 70's. Lived on the bay when it was reasonable.
Like to have the money back that we spent at Woodys, Blackies, Dillmans and the runs to the bull fights. What a period of time, wow we were lucky to
be in so cal.
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BajaTed
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Back then, a pony tail at the border and beyond was a big problem.
Operation Intercept and the El Nino that flooded TJ in 1969 was my first experience with Baja.
Times have changed to say the least
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DENNIS
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| Quote: Originally posted by mulegemichael | | Dennis...i was camped in a driftwood shelter out on the sand spit at punta banda during those times...for around a year or so...we were turned back at
the border when a "snitch" caught my buddy wearing a wig to cover up his long hair...i just took out my pocketknife and cut it off....fun times!
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Hi Mike. Good to see you.
Yeah....dems was the daze.
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mulegemichael
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dennis; "daze" is right...
dyslexia is never having to say you\'re yrros.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: Originally posted by cliffh | | [/rquote] Hey Dennis 60's and early 70's. Lived on the bay when it was reasonable. Like to have the money back that we spent at Woodys,
Blackies, Dillmans and the runs to the bull fights. What a period of time, wow we were lucky to be in so cal. |
Cliff......if you ever tossed back a few at the Alley West or Baer's Lair, it's muy possible I made them for you.
Loved Dilmans. Lived most of my life in Balboa.....down at the end by the wedge. so long ago, I even remember vacant lots there.
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cliffh
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| Quote: Originally posted by DENNIS | | Quote: Originally posted by cliffh | | [/rquote] Hey Dennis 60's and early 70's. Lived on the bay when it was reasonable. Like to have the money back that we spent at Woodys,
Blackies, Dillmans and the runs to the bull fights. What a period of time, wow we were lucky to be in so cal. |
Cliff......if you ever tossed back a few at the Alley West or Baer's Lair, it's muy possible I made them for you.
Loved Dilmans. Lived most of my life in Balboa.....down at the end by the wedge. so long ago, I even remember vacant lots there.
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Dennis you must have known Dick Wright (RIP) Spent lots of time at Baer's, Alley West until 1970 when I got married again. Will give you shout
when we get to Estero in May.
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DENNIS
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Right on, Cliff. We'll have fun with stories about BLACKIES and the STAG while we're at it.
SALUD
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