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Those who disassociate Mexico with the Arab [Muslim] influence are blind to history, specifically the Crusades in Spain.
An example:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_language_influence_on_t...
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Quote: Originally posted by DENNIS  | | Quote: Originally posted by Udo | Do the people who keep arguing about religion, Mexico's politics, USA politics, Trump, or the wall...
Do they REALLY think they are going to change someone's mind?
All they are doing if defending their beliefs, whether we like it or not. For that reason if I smell post regarding one of the above topics, I either
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Strange thing about human nature. Most people just like to be heard and acknowledged for their opinion. Makes us feel less insignificant.
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see how astute Mr.D is!!!!!!
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Ahhhhhh, mon Sharí................Je vous remercie. 
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| Quote: Originally posted by JoeJustJoe |
Just more fake news from our residential tea-party member, and Trump fan, Lobsterman.
Yes, it's Israel's apartheid wall in that photo, and I believe that wall is only about 400 miles, not the 2000 mile wall that Trump campaigned on, and
it remains to be seen what kind of wall is actually in the plans to be built, or if a wall from coast to coast could even be built, , because all
the other Great Wall plans from 2006 on have failed or not lived up to expectations.
We also still don't know who is going to pay for the wall, and The US Congress has not yet allocated from 10 to 40 billion dollars of US tax payers
money to start construction of the wall.
I'm also unaware of any US Government contract bidding and winning of those government contracts to any specific company, although if you follow the
stock market, there are about 10 companies that received a bump because many are guessing those companies will benefit if a wall is built.
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JIHADI JOE HATING AMERICA AS USUAL!
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Interesting offer...."Learn Arabic in Punta Banda."
I wonder what else they plan to teach?
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1214099862007916&...
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Devlish Discussion Delivered with Derision and Disgust
It's GREAT.
All combined here influencing (and costing) nothing.
The Hallmark of (anti) Social Media.
A forum filled to capacity with hardened advocates devoid of minds open to persuasion.
Resulting in nothing more than recreational self-satisfaction (and FUN) for those individuals otherwise unimportant to the resolution of any important
issues.
Which is, of course, value enough.
More convenient and less costly than actually participating in physical or financial advocacy out in the REAL world.
STRANGELY, there are those who think that they are "somehow" accomplishing something constructive.
Indicating a slippery grip on reality ?
In any case, it's a game well worth the price of admission for a few minutes (or hour) daily.
Especially for those of us who have more limited opportunity to irritate in person with our sage opinions and sardonic wit.
That's about the ONLY thing I miss from my working days in the office environment.
Sarcastic Repartee.
A tasty daily dish.
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| Quote: Originally posted by Cliffy | This is getting weird. One side says I am a racist Islamophobe and the other says I'm wandering in the mist of radical Liberalism. How's that for
labels? What does it get? Nothing. So let's drop it.
For one, I'm not a fan of either major political party. I don't trust McConnell any more than I trusted Reid (and he was my Senator for a decade).
They are both liars and in the same boat as far as I'm concerned. I was disappointed in Bush (the younger) and I didn't trust any of the Clintons.
Their foundation will turn out to be a slush fund. Although i didn't vote for Obama I really felt he had the opportunity to one the greatest
Presidents this country ever had. Unfortunately he didn't live up to my initial cogitations.
Frankly, I don't think any Presidential administration since Eisenhower has been worth a damn, save maybe Reagan (that's as far as I go back with any
memory).
Now we come to the current administration. I don't feel he's either right or left but somewhere in the middle. It's way too early to make a concise
decision as to whether or not he's good for the country IN THE LONG RUN.
Kennedy had Cuba right at first, Truman had to drop the bomb, Johnson inherited the VN war, Nixon tried a cover up, they all have issues either right
at first or somewhere along the way. There will never be a "perfect" candidate but somehow we always muddle through. For 240+ years, we've muddled
through.
Right now we have a President that half the country voted for (right at 63 million people and yes we have an Electoral College for a valid reason that
our forefathers were enlightened enough to foresee the need for same and I would say that no matter who won ) and i'm not fully convinced of
everything he wants to do is correct but enough seems to be to be able to support him and see how things turn out. Could he turn out to be a disaster?
Sure, just like others in the last 44 Presidents have been but we don't know yet. It's too early to tell. If one studies American history we can see
parallels in other administrations and heated debates about the then current President as far back as we go (just look to Adams and Jefferson, at
times they hated each other but on July the 4th 1826 Jefferson's last words were, "at least Adams survives" (paraphrased), unfortunately Adams died
the same day). BTW, that was exactly 50 years to the day of the signing of the Declaration of Independence, but, we always seem to come through in the
end.
Now if anyone wants to have a reasonable discussion on immigration I'm all ears. But I would preface it with this question (and it is a question for
discussion ans NOT an accusation).
Does any independent State (that is the correct term) have the right to control who they allow in through their borders?
It's an easy question to answer, only one of two answers- yes or no.
If you want to answer please back it up with why you feel that way in a courteous manner.
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Cliffy, you want people to answer your provocative question on immigration where you try to limit their answers to a yes or no answer like an attorney
would ask to restrict them and back them in the corner.
Like I said, Cliffy, no pretend fence sitters because I have no respect for anyone who sits on the fence throwing rocks at only one side of the aisle
and then acting like they're neutral or they claim they don't like either side of the aisle, be it democrat or republican, liberal or conservative.
Your type always claims, nobody is good enough for him regarding past Presidents, yet reading between the lines, your political leanings come through
loud and clear.
You Cliffy, are a Trumpster, that much is obvious, and you have been conservative for many years, maybe not ultra conservative, but for sure
conservative, and you're anti-immigration, and you maybe even racist if you voted for Trump!
You think Reagan, was a good President, so you can't be liberal, because most liberals think Reagan, was stupid, uninformed, and even senile when he
was in office, but he knew his limitations and depended on those around him including his wife, who consulted the stars with the help of an astrologer
to chart America's course. Reagan, was pretty much responsible for widening the divide between the rich and poor.
Look at how you bash Clinton, and it's amazing you didn't bring up Monica. Clinton's eight years in office, were great, better than anything Reagan
did, and he balanced the budget, but eight years later that dope George Bush, left the USA on a brink of another great depression, but Obama, brought
the USA back, as well as could be expected, giving the hole Bush left Obama in.
Cliffy, you didn't vote for Obama, not even in his first term when he was running on" hope and change," and most people wanted to get away from what
Bush did the previous eight years, and McCain, was seen as someone who would continue Bush''s polices.
I'm sorry Cliffy, that alone pigeonholes you as least a conservative, maybe not a republican, because after eight years of Bush, republican became
a bad word, so conservatives labeled themselves as Libertarian or so-called Independent conservatives, but their stripes never changed.
What really gives you away Cliffy, is the way you act like Trump is a normal President, that you're willing to give him a chance. Any liberal,
probably most Independents, and even many conservatives see Trump, as a megalomaniac, racist thin-skinned fool, who now thinks he is king of the USA,
and the world! We will be lucky that Trump, doesn't start world war III because another country's leader insulted him.
Cliffy, you say that Trump won half the vote. That's wrong, he lost to Hillary Clinton, by 3 million votes, although he did win the dated Electoral
College that should be abolished in favor of the popular vote to reflect the will of the people, and because I'm tired of seeing a handful of small
swing states with deplorable white non-educated voters determine everything.
[Edited on 2-6-2017 by JoeJustJoe]
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SERIOUSLY ?
One answer is as important and material as another.
ALL having equal effect on the opinions of others.
And, equally affecting the eventual political actions.
Opposing ideas are rejected as uninformed.
Corroborating expressions valued as affirmation.
Which obviously makes sense.
I have always found that MY assessments are correct and, therefore, a contrary expression has to be WRONG.
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Right. No...waiddaminit....wrong. Oohh yeah....right...er.... wrong....but, maybe right wrong or right wrong right wrong right wrong right wrong
right wrong right wrong right wrong right wrong right wrong right wrong. Yeah....thas it....right wrong
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| Quote: Originally posted by JoeJustJoe | | Quote: Originally posted by Cliffy | This is getting weird. One side says I am a racist Islamophobe and the other says I'm wandering in the mist of radical Liberalism. How's that for
labels? What does it get? Nothing. So let's drop it.
For one, I'm not a fan of either major political party. I don't trust McConnell any more than I trusted Reid (and he was my Senator for a decade).
They are both liars and in the same boat as far as I'm concerned. I was disappointed in Bush (the younger) and I didn't trust any of the Clintons.
Their foundation will turn out to be a slush fund. Although i didn't vote for Obama I really felt he had the opportunity to one the greatest
Presidents this country ever had. Unfortunately he didn't live up to my initial cogitations.
Frankly, I don't think any Presidential administration since Eisenhower has been worth a damn, save maybe Reagan (that's as far as I go back with any
memory).
Now we come to the current administration. I don't feel he's either right or left but somewhere in the middle. It's way too early to make a concise
decision as to whether or not he's good for the country IN THE LONG RUN.
Kennedy had Cuba right at first, Truman had to drop the bomb, Johnson inherited the VN war, Nixon tried a cover up, they all have issues either right
at first or somewhere along the way. There will never be a "perfect" candidate but somehow we always muddle through. For 240+ years, we've muddled
through.
Right now we have a President that half the country voted for (right at 63 million people and yes we have an Electoral College for a valid reason that
our forefathers were enlightened enough to foresee the need for same and I would say that no matter who won ) and i'm not fully convinced of
everything he wants to do is correct but enough seems to be to be able to support him and see how things turn out. Could he turn out to be a disaster?
Sure, just like others in the last 44 Presidents have been but we don't know yet. It's too early to tell. If one studies American history we can see
parallels in other administrations and heated debates about the then current President as far back as we go (just look to Adams and Jefferson, at
times they hated each other but on July the 4th 1826 Jefferson's last words were, "at least Adams survives" (paraphrased), unfortunately Adams died
the same day). BTW, that was exactly 50 years to the day of the signing of the Declaration of Independence, but, we always seem to come through in the
end.
Now if anyone wants to have a reasonable discussion on immigration I'm all ears. But I would preface it with this question (and it is a question for
discussion ans NOT an accusation).
Does any independent State (that is the correct term) have the right to control who they allow in through their borders?
It's an easy question to answer, only one of two answers- yes or no.
If you want to answer please back it up with why you feel that way in a courteous manner.
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Cliffy, you want people to answer your provocative question on immigration where you try to limit their answers to a yes or no answer like an attorney
would ask to restrict them and back them in the corner.
Like I said, Cliffy, no pretend fence sitters because I have no respect for anyone who sits on the fence throwing rocks at only one side of the aisle
and then acting like they're neutral or they claim they don't like either side of the aisle, be it democrat or republican, liberal or conservative.
Your type always claims, nobody is good enough for him regarding past Presidents, yet reading between the lines, your political leanings come through
loud and clear.
You Cliffy, are a Trumpster, that much is obvious, and you have been conservative for many years, maybe not ultra conservative, but for sure
conservative, and you're anti-immigration, and you maybe even racist if you voted for Trump!
You think Reagan, was a good President, so you can't be liberal, because most liberals think Reagan, was stupid, uninformed, and even senile when he
was in office, but he knew his limitations and depended on those around him including his wife, who consulted the stars with the help of an astrologer
to chart America's course. Reagan, was pretty much responsible for widening the divide between the rich and poor.
Look at how you bash Clinton, and it's amazing you didn't bring up Monica. Clinton's eight years in office, were great, better than anything Reagan
did, and he balanced the budget, but eight years later that dope George Bush, left the USA on a brink of another great depression, but Obama, brought
the USA back, as well as could be expected, giving the hole Bush left Obama in.
Cliffy, you didn't vote for Obama, not even in his first term when he was running on" hope and change," and most people wanted to get away from what
Bush did the previous eight years, and McCain, was seen as someone who would continue Bush''s polices.
I'm sorry Cliffy, that alone pigeonholes you as least a conservative, maybe not a republican, because after eight years of Bush, republican became
a bad word, so conservatives labeled themselves as Libertarian or so-called Independent conservatives, but their stripes never changed.
What really gives you away Cliffy, is the way you act like Trump is a normal President, that you're willing to give him a chance. Any liberal,
probably most Independents, and even many conservatives see Trump, as a megalomaniac, racist thin-skinned fool, who now thinks he is king of the USA,
and the world! We will be lucky that Trump, doesn't start world war III because another country's leader insulted him.
Cliffy, you say that Trump won half the vote. That's wrong, he lost to Hillary Clinton, by 3 million votes, although he did win the dated Electoral
College that should be abolished in favor of the popular vote to reflect the will of the people, and because I'm tired of seeing a handful of small
swing states with deplorable white non-educated voters determine everything.
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CUT AND PASTE JIHADI JOE IS AGAIN SPEWING HIS HATE FOR AMERICA!
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I guess that if one is not a Liberal, somewhat to the left of Bernie, then it is not worth having a civil conversation with.
I don't think I called anyone any names, I don't think I labeled anyone with any "deplorable" labels (pun intended) and yet I see a diatribe of such
directed at me.
I specifically asked if anyone wanted a civil conversation. Those with other plans were, by request, not invited to the conversation. This is exactly
why President Trump won the election. People are tired of this kind of behavior. To hold that those American citizens who vote in the flyover states
are something less than qualified voters is somewhat disingenuous to say the least.
I guess in some circles only the Liberal Elite should be allowed to vote as they are obviously the only ones who know who should be elected.
Its really a sad case when one can't see the forest for the trees and realize they are what they abhor and how much of an ass they appear to the
public that reads their postulations.
Over and out!
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I don't have problems debating conservatives, and over the years some of my best friends have actually been conservatives, if you believe that,
although they at times make me crazy.
What I don't like is fence sitters, or pretend sitters sitters, because with them it seems there are more interested in winning augments, and if you
try to pin them down, on some policy of their candidate, President, or politician is advocating, they punt, and say, "who me," I'm independent" I
didn't vote for that guy, yet most of their talk or posts, end up attacking one side or another.
If you want to have a friendly debate on hot red button issues, then at least come clean, and be a straight shooter, and tell us your political
affiliations, or leave little doubt where you are coming from like most people do.
The talking about Walls, American exceptionalism, US supremacy, pure bigotry, Islamophobia, non-existent Sharia laws in the US are also insulting
to some people, although I don't point any individual out, but I'm just looking at this thread and some of the posts made so far in this thread.
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| Quote: Originally posted by JoeJustJoe | I don't have problems debating conservatives, and over the years some of my best friends have actually been conservatives, if you believe that,
although they at times make me crazy.
What I don't like is fence sitters, or pretend sitters sitters, because with them it seems there are more interested in winning augments, and if you
try to pin them down, on some policy of their candidate, President, or politician is advocating, they punt, and say, "who me," I'm independent" I
didn't vote for that guy, yet most of their talk or posts, end up attacking one side or another.
If you want to have a friendly debate on hot red button issues, then at least come clean, and be a straight shooter, and tell us your political
affiliations, or leave little doubt where you are coming from like most people do.
The talking about Walls, American exceptionalism, US supremacy, pure bigotry, Islamophobia, non-existent Sharia laws in the US are also insulting
to some people, although I don't point any individual out, but I'm just looking at this thread and some of the posts made so far in this thread.
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NEVER BET WITH JIHADI JOE BECAUSE HE WILL WELCH ON HIS BET THEN LAUNCH INTO A DIATRIBE WHY YOU DID NOT WIN WHEN CLEARLY YOU DID!
HIS WRITING ABOVE IS GOBBLEDYGOOK HE CUTS AND PASTES FORM DIFFERENT PLACES TO MAKE HIM SEEM SMART WHEN IN FACT HE IS A DUMB FENCE SITTER.
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Setting Sitters Straight ?
OK, I got lost on the Sitters situation.
Clarification ?
".......what I don't like is fence sitters, or pretend sitters sitters........"
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Silly Cliffy
Don't you know that this is a liberal site that does not handle another's view of the USA very well. I'm sure most do but some active posters above
do not. It's either their way or the highway. There's only a little more than a handful that make a bad name IMO for this board. They badger, filthy
name call, make up false facts about one or his family, etc., if you do not have a left-leaning position. That's just the way it is Cliffy, so live
with it or bug out.
I've always wondered why this board is so far-left liberal with little acceptance for another's view point. But with the left's name calling,
falsehoods and criminal acts against Trump, I guess it's just inherent in their political platform when they do not get their way. Sounds childish to
me.
Myself I just laugh at them to myself for being so myopic and mean spirited which is counter I'm sure to their hypocritical view of being decent
minded people. You mention Trump and the hairs on their necks bristle and their decency towards the debater fades quickly.
As for what I see happening in Baja when the current administration repatriates millions of criminal illegals back into Mexico can not be good. Add
to that potentially millions of non-criminal illegals, self-repatriations, some kind of tax (NAFTA or stipends), and decreased foreign investment and
you have a possible troubling situation brewing. I'm taking a pause on my fishing trip to BOLA this spring until I see how Baja fares with the new
challenges they face.
Happy Deplorable Fisherman
| Quote: Originally posted by Cliffy | I guess that if one is not a Liberal, somewhat to the left of Bernie, then it is not worth having a civil conversation with.
I don't think I called anyone any names, I don't think I labeled anyone with any "deplorable" labels (pun intended) and yet I see a diatribe of such
directed at me.
I specifically asked if anyone wanted a civil conversation. Those with other plans were, by request, not invited to the conversation. This is exactly
why President Trump won the election. People are tired of this kind of behavior. To hold that those American citizens who vote in the flyover states
are something less than qualified voters is somewhat disingenuous to say the least.
I guess in some circles only the Liberal Elite should be allowed to vote as they are obviously the only ones who know who should be elected.
Its really a sad case when one can't see the forest for the trees and realize they are what they abhor and how much of an ass they appear to the
public that reads their postulations.
Over and out!
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| Quote: Originally posted by Lobsterman | Don't you know that this is a liberal site that does not handle another's view of the USA very well. ...... I'm taking a pause on my fishing trip to
BOLA this spring until I see how Baja fares with the new challenges they face.
Happy Deplorable Fisherman
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Boy oh boy....Mexican economy is going to take a huge hit with your upcoming absence 
I nearly spit my coffee out when I saw the comment about Nomads being a liberal-minded forum...I sure don't see it that way, but if so, I am glad
some light is shining through.
Outspoken lefties?
Let's be blunt, because the stakes demand it... what is preventing Trump from violating the US Constitution and illegally grabbing power? The
President truly appears to be leading a master class in transforming the United States into a dictatorship. Trump -- and it's fair to assume it is by
design -- has sought to undermine anyone or anything that tries to counter him.
First, Trump has made the media -- which is a watchdog of your presidents -- a focus of his attacks, calling them "dishonest," claiming they peddle
"fake news" and even recently labeling them "the opposition party." The practical result is that when the citizenry and media call out Trump's lies
and presents objective facts to counter him, his followers will likely dismiss the media reports and instead side with Trump.
Then Trump went after your intelligence agencies because he didn't agree with their views on Russia's involvement in your recent election. Trump
lashed out, calling these agencies, charged with gathering information for our national security, "disgraceful" and accusing them of leaking
information, comparing it to "something that N-zi Germany would have done."
Trump has clearly begun the process of destroying the credibility of critics ( eg. CIA, the judiciary) and the mainstream media so if they come
forward in the future to oppose his views or offer facts to undermine his position, he will tell his followers they also aren't to be believed.
There's no doubt Trump supporters are very loyal to him personally. Keep in mind that Trump infamously bragged that he could even shoot a person on
Fifth Avenue in New York and his supporters would still be on his side. And according to a CNN/ORC poll, while Trump has only a 44% approval rating
overall, 90% of Republicans think he's doing a good job.
Trump's concerted attacks to delegitimize the media, your intelligence community and now your federal judiciary are evident. And it should be
terrifying to every American who truly believes in your Constitution and in the promise that the USA once offered.
Don't believe everything you think....
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| Quote: Originally posted by paranewbi | ....
but with MOST of the voters (the 'master class') electing to kick out democrats in Congress and the Senate as well as Governorship's....
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How does 3+ million votes more for Clinton equate to your faux "fact"?
Don't believe everything you think....
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About like electing Justin Trueducks in Canada? At least Trump is old enough to buy me a beer....Speaking of which ....
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| Quote: Originally posted by MrBillM | OK, I got lost on the Sitters situation.
Clarification ?
".......what I don't like is fence sitters, or pretend sitters sitters........" |
Weak trolling but I'm glad Gaylord, has made his way to this thread with comments, because Gaylord, who admits to be a long time conservative
republican, and who I believe harbors the worse qualities of many ultra conservatives when it comes to issues like immigration, and social programs. (
I'm really trying to be nice here)
But even Gaylord, has turned his back on Trump during the campaign and he voted for Hillary! Gaylord, doesn't view Trump as a real republican, nor
does he see Trump, being qualified to be President, and basically sees Trump as a con man, who is pulling the wool over the eyes of uniformed voters.
( trying to be nice again)
Free free to correct me Gaylord, including any grammar or spelling issues, you're anal-fixated over, because I don't want to put words in your mouth
that aren't there.
But the main thing is even Gaylord, see Trump coming miles away, and Gaylord, isn't the only ultra conservative that has turned his back on Trump.
The fact is most educated conservatives don't like Trump.
So it almost makes me laugh when I here things like "lets give Trump a chance." I have seen enough, he is total nutcase, and he is really dangerous,
because he alone could start world war III.
Regarding Lobsterman's claim, that "Baja Nomad' is a liberal site. That's funny, "Baja Nomad" is full of older Americans, who grew up during the 60's
hippy era, but along the way most have aged and turned a hard right, and are now very conservative, however, when it comes to Trump, many "BN"
conservatives, and even ultra conservative voters, have turned their back on Trump, and think he is nothing but a thin-skinned con man who is out for
only himself.
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| Quote: Originally posted by chuckie | | About like electing Justin Trueducks in Canada? At least Trump is old enough to buy me a beer....Speaking of which .... |
And out of the morning beer crawls Chuckie....don't let all the young guys scare ya.....they might have something valuable to say 
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