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[*] posted on 2-24-2017 at 08:14 PM


"jack-booted thugs."
Again with the name calling. Why can't you discuss something without resorting to name calling? Is it beyond you to hold a normal conversation? Have you no education or manners? Do you really think anyone will listen to you with that attitude? I just ignore your position until you speak in a respectful manner. If you don't, you don't exist as far as I'm concerned. You'll never change any minds with that kind of language




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[*] posted on 2-24-2017 at 08:32 PM


Quote: Originally posted by Cliffy  
"jack-booted thugs."
Again with the name calling. Why can't you discuss something without resorting to name calling? Is it beyond you to hold a normal conversation? Have you no education or manners? Do you really think anyone will listen to you with that attitude? I just ignore your position until you speak in a respectful manner. If you don't, you don't exist as far as I'm concerned. You'll never change any minds with that kind of language


I've witnessed raids/deportations. It can only be described as thuggery. Open your eyes.
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[*] posted on 2-24-2017 at 09:50 PM



As a long time employer with businesses in CA and OR I can attest to the fact that there are very stiff penalties for hiring an illegal on both the federal and state level. I can't understand how any employer could get around the system as it is their responsibility to prove they have verified all the potential employees documentation and it is hardly worth exposing themselves to very large fines and even lawsuits from the illegal employee in the event of injury. As for paying under the table without deducting the required taxes, an employer would be paying taxes out of their own pocket from their profit and in fact self insuring the illegal personally, which could result in bankruptcy in case of injury without Workmen's comp insurance. The average homeowner trying to get an odd job done using undocumented workers either doesn't understand the potential risks or foolishly chances it. I recall a couple of potential Clinton judicial appointees were forced to withdraw from consideration for employing undocumented domestic workers. I understand it is a huge problem in the country but it is a mystery how it can be that large with stiff penalties for hiring illegals. This has continued under both Democratic and Republican administrations.



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Quote: Originally posted by lencho  
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They're not, they are working under the table and sending a large percentage of the untaxed money back to Mexico.


Isn't that illegal?

To employ people under the table like that? :?:


The GOP believes that the employer should be rewarded with a tax cut, and the employee should be deported by jack-booted thugs.

Seriously, the GOP solution is to turn a blind eye to illegal acts of employers, and to penalize the employee by deporting.
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[*] posted on 2-24-2017 at 11:45 PM


Quote: Originally posted by LancairDriver  
I understand it is a huge problem in the country but it is a mystery how it can be that large with stiff penalties for hiring illegals.

Must be a huge money-maker for the employers to justify that risk. Or maybe the risk of getting caught isn't much of a concern.




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[*] posted on 2-25-2017 at 12:56 AM


Quote: Originally posted by Cliffy  
"jack-booted thugs."
Again with the name calling. Why can't you discuss something without resorting to name calling? Is it beyond you to hold a normal conversation? Have you no education or manners? Do you really think anyone will listen to you with that attitude? I just ignore your position until you speak in a respectful manner. If you don't, you don't exist as far as I'm concerned. You'll never change any minds with that kind of language


Cliffy, you are starting to whine a little bit too much. Let me remind you that it you who started a very controversial topic, on a nonexistent problem of Mexico or Mexicans retaliating against US expats or tourists, because of Trump's immigration polices.

Your topic is just a variation of similar topic started over a week ago, titled, " Mexico to retaliate against U.S expats" which was pure BS, and fake news found on some obscure blog, and then re-posted here.

What happened Cliffy, didn't you get your answer in that thread, that ended in heated exchanges, and finally closed?

You can't start a thread about Trump, and his draconian immigration polices without the discussion becoming heated. If you can't stand the heat Cliffy, then stay out of the kitchen.

BTW, to believe Mexicans are going to retaliate against Americans in Mexico, because of a US President, or his immigration polices, is pretty insulting to many if not most Mexicans.
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Here is another thread of the same topic that got so heated it had to be closed down:

Mexico to retaliate against U.S. expats?

http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=85697

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[*] posted on 2-25-2017 at 07:39 AM



Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  


The GOP believes that the employer should be rewarded with a tax cut, and the employee should be deported by jack-booted thugs.

Seriously, the GOP solution is to turn a blind eye to illegal acts of employers, and to penalize the employee by deporting.



Watch what you ask for Goat.

National Identity Cards and fines and/or jail time for employers of illegals is just around the corner. That one act alone by the DOJ will do more for stemming illegal immigration into our country than any other single enforcement policy. Without a job and/or social benefits many illegals will head north to Canada or head home. A very easy solution to help eliminate our immigration problem. Along with the Wall, extraction teams, enforcement of immigration law, intelligence, additional manpower and modern technology will soon close the other gaps in our immigration policies.

Mexico and other countries were smart to enforce and protect their borders of illegals from day one. The USA on the other hand has not because one side wants more voters and the other side wants slave labor to make their widgets or clean their rooms. We all know now what the silent majority in the USA wants and will soon get.

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[*] posted on 2-25-2017 at 10:18 AM


FBI and GOP insiders are covering up the investigation of ties and apparent collusion between Russian spies and trump campaign! The investigations are being led by crooked FBI, which supported trump over Hillary, and GOP-led sham committees.

Darrel Issa has just come out and said that an independent investigator is needed!

I sense impeachment sometime next year, as soon as a whistle blower grows a pair and releases the truth.

All of the GOP that aided in the cover-up are going down!

Write your congressmen and tell them to stop participating in the cover-ups of trump illegalities!

Looking forward to seeing the tax returns of Russia's mole-in-chief!

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[*] posted on 2-25-2017 at 10:49 AM


Quote: Originally posted by lencho  
Quote: Originally posted by LancairDriver  
I understand it is a huge problem in the country but it is a mystery how it can be that large with stiff penalties for hiring illegals.

Must be a huge money-maker for the employers to justify that risk. Or maybe the risk of getting caught isn't much of a concern.


Ha that funny employers taking risks for hiring undocumented Mexican workers.

The Goat is right, the only ones who end up with the short end of the stick are the Mexican undocumented employees who get deported without collecting their last paychecks.

The employers almost always get away with their crimes, and if caught will get a slap on the wrist, and pay a paltry fine of between $250 to $2000, but in reality the majority of employers don't get caught, and if you look at the history of fines with both the Bush and Obama, administrations, the combined fines of one year, barely added up to about $1 million dollars nationwide, and that's nothing nationwide for a whole year.

If you remember a few years ago, Bush's border patrol was cracking down at bus stops, and restaurants. Obama, was named the "deporter in Chief" because he deported more undocumented Mexican workers, that Bush, but both Bush and Obama, really didn't go after the employers. In fact I think the employers were offered amnesty too under Obama.

The current laws on the book are virtually unenforceable, because the employer doesn't really have to verify if the documents presented by the worker are authentic or not, and if they look pretty good, the Mexican worker gets hired.

It's not like the employers have to use the he E-Verify system, and thanks both the Republicans and Democrats in both houses, I doubt the E-Verify system, or what Lobsterman, is talking about will ever be the law of the land.





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