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[*] posted on 2-24-2017 at 03:10 PM
Replacing my boat?


I found the exact model of boat that I had which got stolen.

I have the desire to restore that part of my life where it was interupted.

The boat is very cool and in awesome condition. But I did learn a few things with my 1st boat. A few of it's short comings for my intended purpose.
For example, the stern was a tad low and a following sea would wash up on the swim step and splash into the c-ckpit. Not horrible but noticeable.
It only occured on the drift and I think some manouvering or maybe a canvas splash guard would help.
I have since found a couple models of boat better but ofcourse bigger and everything that goes with that.
So, let er rip. Tell me why this boat is either good or bad for baja fishing and diving etc.


[Edited on 2-24-2017 by fishbuck]




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[*] posted on 2-24-2017 at 05:21 PM


Fishbuck- Just my notes for a boat we used for 10 years to fish and enjoy the waters of Baja Sur. We had a similar style 22' Bayliner we fished from. Took my then 85 year young mother-in-law, wife and others out to catch dorado and sailfish and bottom fish and more. Loved every minute of the boat's life with us. Set it up with fish finder, rod holders galore. It had a bait tank we used mucho. The boat was stable when we got caught out in rough conditions. Easy to launch, even solo. The stern was a little low to the water but NEVER a problem. Even nearly petted a whale shark one time when "mom" was aboard. Oh, how I/we miss that boat. Just had some changes in our life. One major thing I notice about the boat in the pic. The trailer NEEDS tall guides to keep the boat in line when coming out of the water, esp. on any kind of windy day.

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[*] posted on 3-1-2017 at 12:33 PM


That is a lake boat, which all bow riders are. No bueno in the ocean. Can actually be dangerous if you take a wave over the bow. And the seating up there encourages people and you dont want weight up there in the ocean, unless it's like a lake. That rarely happens off San Quintin.

Boats that size should be outboard powered. There is no need for the intricacies of an inboard/outboard in that size class, given the reliability of the newer injected two strokes and four stroke. Cant see what power that is on that boat pictured. Also, some I/O lake boats are raw water cooled, instead of a closed system. No bueno in salt water.

Go center console or walk around cuddy. Bow riders are a bad idea in the ocean.
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[*] posted on 3-1-2017 at 12:44 PM


Check the classifieds for a nice deal on a Bayrunner which is a much more appropriate setup for ocean-going.
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[*] posted on 3-1-2017 at 01:02 PM


Like the previous poster said, that boat ain't for waves or the open ocean.
When in Rome do as the romans do. Get a panga/outboard. Pangas can be had with center console and storage lockers if you want such.

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[*] posted on 3-1-2017 at 08:17 PM


A Bayliner has advantages and disadvantages. Bottom line , for me, is to know your boat well and know the sea's conditions for the day. I fished and crabbed etc. for 10 years in the Pacific North West and 10 years in Baja Sur. Keep your wits about you, easy on the beer, and comfort to know that when the seas start to get rough my boat was fast. Not for everyone but I have great memories of safe and fun times on the water with many friends and family members.



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[*] posted on 3-1-2017 at 09:55 PM


I think fishbuck is having a little fun, a nomad with 3500 posts over 10 years on the board ??? Talking about a POS Bayliner ? I have a question is my 85 Honda Civic a good car for Baja?
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[*] posted on 3-2-2017 at 02:03 AM


A pic of my boat that got stolen.

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[*] posted on 3-2-2017 at 02:18 AM


It is a lake boat/ski boat but I did have mine out in the ocean a few times. I turned back once when it was too rough.
It was a super fun boat and fast. I loved that boat.
I would definately put a canvas cover on the bow if I was going out very far. But I never had any water over the bow.
At 23 feet it could handle some rough water but nothing too big. Chop or 2-3 feet swell was ok. Maybe 5.




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[*] posted on 3-2-2017 at 05:35 AM


I'm not a fisherman, but I have quite a bit of experience around boats. Here's what will happen with that one. After about 20 or 30 outings, the hinge on the little hinged window that closes off the bow area will fail, the clips that hold it closed will fail, or it will rattle so bad you will want to remove it. The window frame will start to rattle, The bow rail will start to rattle and the screws that hold it will begin to rust. The rubber rail around the perimeter will start to pull away. The hits you take in the ocean are much different than on a lake, smooth water or not. I truly believe you are wasting your money on that boat for using it in the ocean. Get something with less rubber, less chrome, less screws, no glass, and with an outboard. Sorry....
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[*] posted on 3-2-2017 at 12:00 PM


Get a 26' panga with a good size 4 stroke outboard.

Don't waste your money on fancy sh$i in the ocean.
Go with the proven stuff.

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[*] posted on 3-2-2017 at 12:10 PM


Quote: Originally posted by vandenberg  
Get a 26' panga with a good size 4 stroke outboard.

Don't waste your money on fancy sh$i in the ocean.
Go with the proven stuff.

[Edited on 3-2-2017 by vandenberg]


X2. You can get away with a lake boat on the ocean if you are very careful and lucky, but why not just do it right in the first place.
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[*] posted on 3-2-2017 at 12:53 PM


Lately i have been using a boston whaler montauk. Its pretty utilitarian, comfortable, and seems well built. Might be good choice for trailer boat.

I woulnt take it 20 miles offshore, but its great boat for bays and near coast. Tough as chit too.

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[*] posted on 3-2-2017 at 01:16 PM


listen to captkw....:yes:
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[*] posted on 3-2-2017 at 02:36 PM


Quote: Originally posted by willardguy  
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You mean, go Livingston?

I want a panga, too!
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[*] posted on 3-2-2017 at 03:54 PM


I like the Montauk. If you happen into wind and you've gone too far it will bring you home. It is a rough riding boat in windy conditions though (SOC conditions). But it is a good fishing and diving platform. I do like higher gunnels though. I like to put my knees against something.
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