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dumbdog
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300 Haitians applied for residency in Mexicali. How?
http://www.uniradioinforma.com/noticias/mexicali/467530/300-...
So far 300 Haitian migrants have applied for residency in Mexicali and I want to know HOW?
1.They’ve been in Mexicali for months. They have no proof of any income about zero Haitian gourde a month! Supposedly migracion demands Americans
prove either 25,000 pesos or 40,000 pesos a month.
2.Most Haitians in Mexicali live for free in church-sponsored charity homes. They have no money. Yes, some pay for their housing, but do they have
enough to pay for Mexican residency card. I’ve heard prices here anywhere from 230 to 852 usd. I would gamble 100 bucks that they’re not being
charged for the residency card.
3.So if I don’t have to prove monthly income and I don’t have to pay for the residency card, I’ll apply YESTERDAY!
Does anyone know how to pull this one off?
Thanks,
Eugene
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larryC
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Sounds like it is easy to pull off, just come to Mexicali from Haiti and live on handouts at some church for a while and then get your free residency
card. Who wouldn't do that?
Off grid, 12-190 watt evergreen solar panels on solar trackers, 2-3648 stacked Outback inverters, 610ah LiFePo4 48v battery bank, FM 60 and MX60
Outback charge controllers, X-240 Outback transformer for 240v from inverters, 6500 watt Kubota diesel generator.
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mtgoat666
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Not unsurprising to see that some nomads have no ability to have compassion for Haitians.
Probably due to some nomads being so ignorant and closed-minded that they don't even have any idea of what has gone on in Haiti.
Other nomads are just selfish psychopaths that are aware of what has gone on in Haiti and simply say "tough chit."
Sad!
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bajaguy
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Maybe you should go hang out on Av Melchor Ocampo in TJ and try to blend in
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Hook
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Rules bent in Mexico? Nah, that never happens.....................
It might not even be a bending of the rules. When I originally applied for a res. temp a few years back, I seem to remember a category you could check
that indicated you were applying for admission to Mexico on humanitarian grounds or asylum or something like that. Maybe those persons are exempt from
the fees that person's with income are expected to pay?
I think it's great that Mexico is willing to take in immigrants on human rights grounds. Why must it always be the US and Canada in North America?
Still, I suspect this is a PR ploy by Mexico, in retaliation for the new immigration policies of the U.S. It makes them look more magnanimous on
immigration than the US, if only for a brief instant.
Or maybe this is not new at all, and is a bit of "fake news"; opportunism by a media outlet that is aware that it will garner attention.
"Fake news" is real, IMO, on both sides of the political spectrum, by both public and private entities.
[Edited on 2-26-2017 by Hook]
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David K
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So, they were able to get from their island to Mexicali (of all possible places to go), and that's it?
Why Mexicali? That's not the garden spot of Mexico, after all.
The goal would seem to be the United States? So, instead of seeking a visa or immigration paperwork in Haiti, at the U.S. embassy. They paid to go to
Mexicali, all they way across Mexico from the Carribean coast, as that must be the easiest way to break into this country?
Perhaps? I mean my wife and I were witnesses to this recently, at Mexicali! (July 2015):
We watched him run off into a Calexico neighborhood before the border patrol Jeep got there.
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AKgringo
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Mexico apparently does't welcome immigrants from it's southern neighbors....unless, of course, they can afford a 'Coyote' to get them to the US
border!
If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!
"Could do better if he tried!" Report card comments from most of my grade school teachers. Sadly, still true!
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bajaguy
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http://www.worldcrunch.com/migrant-lives-1/why-haitian-migra...
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DaliDali
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Quote: Originally posted by AKgringo  | | Mexico apparently does't welcome immigrants from it's southern neighbors....unless, of course, they can afford a 'Coyote' to get them to the US
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And it's reported that to engage a "coyote" to lead these people thru the maze of obstacles to enter the USA, those costs are in the thousands of
dollars.
Dollars that could be spent on seeking a legal way to do it from the get go.
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JoeJustJoe
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| Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 | Not unsurprising to see that some nomads have no ability to have compassion for Haitians.
Probably due to some nomads being so ignorant and closed-minded that they don't even have any idea of what has gone on in Haiti.
Other nomads are just selfish psychopaths that are aware of what has gone on in Haiti and simply say "tough chit."
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Yeah really, I suspect the real problem for some Nomads is the skin color of the Haitians.
I haven't followed the Haitians situation in Tijuana, Mexico, closely, but I heard it had something to do with Hurricane Matthew, destroying 1000's
of homes in Haiti, and it's some type of humanitarian aid for Haitian refugees,especially since U.S. Customs, can't process them fast enough, or are
dragging their feet because the US has a history of racially discriminating against Haitians for years now, and so Mexico stepped up to the plate, and
are now welcoming the Haitians in Mexico/Baja.
Since the Haitians are refugees, they obviously don't have to meet the same requirements of other foreigners wanting to live in Mexico.
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DaliDali
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| Quote: Originally posted by JoeJustJoe | | Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 | Not unsurprising to see that some nomads have no ability to have compassion for Haitians.
Probably due to some nomads being so ignorant and closed-minded that they don't even have any idea of what has gone on in Haiti.
Other nomads are just selfish psychopaths that are aware of what has gone on in Haiti and simply say "tough chit."
Sad! |
Yeah really, I suspect the real problem for some Nomads is the skin color of the Haitians.
I haven't followed the Haitians situation in Tijuana, Mexico, closely, but I heard it had something to do with Hurricane Matthew, destroying 1000's
of homes in Haiti, and it's some type of humanitarian aid for Haitian refugees,especially since U.S. Customs, can't process them fast enough, or are
dragging their feet because the US has a history of racially discriminating against Haitians for years now, and so Mexico stepped up to the plate, and
are now welcoming the Haitians in Mexico/Baja.
Since the Haitians are refugees, they obviously don't have to meet the same requirements of other foreigners wanting to live in Mexico.
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If you have read the article posted up by Bajaguy, the Mexican on the street in Tijuana does not hold these same "welcoming" viewpoints that the
government may or may not have towards Haitians.
Refugees from any country normally have to make or submit an application to their intended host country for refugee status and be accepted or rejected
as such...
It would seem these Haitians did neither and just descended on Mexico, as a path towards the USA.
Now, the funds that should go to support those Mexicans living in shacks, are partially or wholly diverted to the care and feeding of migrants who
unilaterally decided to swoop in on Mexico.
And these same Mexicans are now peeed that "other" people are sucking up their rightful resources.
The government of Mexico may "say" they are compassionate and welcoming to immigrants, legal or otherwise, but that flies in the face of their refusal
to allow in, migrants seeking solace from the chaos on their own southern border with Central America.
If the truth were to be known, the Mexican government would rather see these Haitians just disappear into the hinterlands of the USA and become the
charge of the man on the street in downtown Salinas CA and rid themselves of this drain on their resources.....of which there is a pittance to go
around.
[Edited on 2-26-2017 by DaliDali]
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woody with a view
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Didn't the Clinton Foundation sweep thru that island a few years back? You know, with mega-million$ to assist in rebuilding!
edit: https://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/15/us/politics/hillary-clint...
[Edited on 2-26-2017 by woody with a view]
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DaliDali
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Yes.....and not only the Clinton global foundation, but millions in public funds as well.
Someone got rich(er) didn't they?
[Edited on 2-26-2017 by DaliDali]
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JoeJustJoe
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Hurricane Matthew was a recent category 5 hurricane, so I don't understand the venom towards the Clinton Foundation.
It also seems to me if your house is destroyed in a category 5 hurricane, you're not going to have a lot of time filling out refugee paperwork.
Give the Haitians a break, and hope they get the help they need in Mexico, since Trump, had completely cut off any Haitians coming to America, because
it conflicts with his goal, of "Making America white again."
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Hurricane Matthew was an extremely destructive and long-lived tropical cyclone which became the first Category 5 Atlantic hurricane since Hurricane
Felix in 2007. The thirteenth named storm, fifth hurricane and second major hurricane of the active 2016 Atlantic hurricane season, Matthew wrought
widespread destruction and catastrophic loss of life during its journey across the Western Atlantic, including parts of Haiti, Cuba, Dominican
Republic, the Lucayan Archipelago, the southeastern United States, and the Canadian Maritimes. Over 1,600 estimated deaths have been attributed to the
storm, including 546 to 1,600 in Haiti, 1 in Colombia, 4 in the Dominican Republic, 4 in Cuba, 1 in Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, and 49 in the
United States, making it the deadliest Atlantic hurricane since Hurricane Stan in 2005, which killed more than 1,600 in Central America and Mexico.
With the storm causing damages estimated in excess of $15 billion (USD), it was also the costliest Atlantic hurricane since Hurricane Sandy in 2012,
as well as the ninth costliest Atlantic hurricane in history.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Matthew
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DaliDali
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| Quote: Originally posted by JoeJustJoe |
It also seems to me if your house is destroyed in a category 5 hurricane, you're not going to have a lot of time filling out refugee paperwork.
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Yet they had time to line up a boat out of Haiti, secure funding to pay the captain (good samaritan ship show up and transport for free?) fuel, stores
of food and water, and a crew, steam the thousand miles to Central or South America, pay a coyote to lead them thru the jungles of Central America,
pay another coyote to wind their way north and payoff the MX officials to look the other way and land in Tijuana and then suck the resources of real
poverty plagued Mexicans and then pitch a hissy they don't like the food?....
And all the while a US Consulate and a Mexican embassy was just a cart ride away, down the lane in Port au Prince to apply for refugee status?...
[Edited on 2-26-2017 by DaliDali]
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chuckie
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More DK BS....that picture he posted the he and his wife were "witness to"?Has been around forever on a bunch of websites...What a putz..
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willardguy
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| Quote: Originally posted by chuckie | | More DK BS....that picture he posted the he and his wife were "witness to"?Has been around forever on a bunch of websites...What a putz..
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David K
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They are from my camera... and I posted them HERE in my July 2015 trip report, where you saw them first.
It indeed looks very similar to other criminal crossing photos. Why would I take time to make something like that up? Oh, you can see the Calexico
water tower in the background, so you know how close to the legal crossing this was at.
For Fake News, go the CNN, The Huffington Post or New York Times... but not from me. Life is too weird without making stuff up!
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blackwolfmt
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chuckie blowin smoke again, just like his old dodge
So understand dont waste your time always searching for those wasted years
face up and make your stand and realize that your living in the golden years
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JoeJustJoe
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| Quote: Originally posted by DaliDali | | Quote: Originally posted by JoeJustJoe |
It also seems to me if your house is destroyed in a category 5 hurricane, you're not going to have a lot of time filling out refugee paperwork.
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Yet they had time to line up a boat out of Haiti, secure funding to pay the captain (good samaritan ship show up and transport for free?) fuel, stores
of food and water, and a crew, steam the thousand miles to Central or South America, pay a coyote to lead them thru the jungles of Central America,
pay another coyote to wind their way north and payoff the MX officials to look the other way and land in Tijuana and then suck the resources of real
poverty plagued Mexicans and then pitch a hissy they don't like the food?....
And all the while a US Consulate and a Mexican embassy was just a cart ride away, down the lane in Port au Prince to apply for refugee status?...
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Really, those Haitians must have lots of money to do everything you claim above, or you have been reading " breitbart" or Alex Jones writings, and
then re-posting it here.
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