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[*] posted on 3-2-2017 at 07:42 AM
Recommendation for one rod to bring to Baja in April


In late April my wife and I are going to drive the length of the Baja Peninsula stopping to beach camp along the way. We are bringing kayaks and I'd like to do some fishing in the Sea Of Cortez out of my kayak. Could someone recommend what lb. test line would work as a starting point and would a medium action rod work OK? A recommendation of a few artificial baits would be appreciated as well. This will be my first attempt at salt water fishing and my expectations aren't high I just want to give it a try. My wife doesn't fish by the way. Thanks in advance for your responses!!!
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[*] posted on 3-2-2017 at 08:02 AM


If you can find an old copy of Gene Kira's book "Baja Catch" it would lead you in the right direction. It's dated and some of the spots may not be as good as they were back then but the tackle probably works just as good. I'm surf fishing Rocky Point on the east side of the gulf next week with 12# line and 1/2 to 1 oz spoons and lead head jigs with rubber tails. Maybe some bait also.
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[*] posted on 3-2-2017 at 08:03 AM


Medium action will be fine.

I've used between 8-15 pound line nearshore on very light gear and always managed to catch dinner.

I really like a fluorocarbon leader.

Split tail scampis, crocs, kastmasters, it all works.
Bounce those scampis on the slow retrieve.

I'd bring a medium size set up, too, because there are some places very close to shore where it can be deep and there are some good sized fish lingering.

Wind can be a bummer in April so just keep an eye out on the windline.
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[*] posted on 3-2-2017 at 09:30 AM


Any type of rubber lure will get destroyed in very short order by the swarms of triggerfish (chochi) that hang out in the Sea.

After living and fishing the SOC around the Loreto area for 16 years, absolutely the best lure for fishing nearshore and trolling along from a kayak would be a Rebel Fastrak style jointed minnow in either gold/black or silver/black colors.

These are not made anymore, but a few can be had off Ebay listed as "vintage" lures.
I believe the "jointed" style lure is far and away the better choice over a solid model.

For a deeper diving lure, a Rebel Spoonbill jointed minnow is great in those same colors.

For casting, a Krocodile metal lure in 1 oz or 1.5 oz chrome prism tape color is a great lure. Let flutter down to the bottom and begin a slow retrieve....too fast a retrieve will just spin the lure...rather than the enticing wobble.
Good luck

[Edited on 3-2-2017 by DaliDali]




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[*] posted on 3-2-2017 at 09:41 AM


If I had to limit myself to only one rod to fish Baja hands down my goto would be a 7' 40# set up as it will handle nearly everything Baja might offer up. However I fish from a boat and typically target the larger species. For inshore kayak fishing however I would recommend a 7' rod with sufficient backbone for lifting such as a Calstar 270 matched with a 25-30# reel. Around the reefs you will want something that can turn their heads and get them away from the rocks as quick as possible



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[*] posted on 3-2-2017 at 10:09 AM


Learn your knots.
I can't break 30-lb test braid off of rocks without wrapping it around my paddle.

That said, my favorite combination is a Penn spinning reel in the 8000 size with a 40" retrieve per crank.

Load with 30-lb mono tied to 150 yards of 30-lb braid. Tie the braid to a 20-30' mono or fluoro leader in the 30-80-lb range.

With a 7', 30-80 lb spinning rod, it's perfect for jigging. Also good for casting from the beach.

Using only 3-oz and 4-oz diamond jigs, I have caught every fish worth catching in Baja...OK, I'm still waiting for my wahoo, but my buddy caught a couple with this setup.

Look up Yo-Yo fishing technique.

A decent rod, a Penn Battle II reel, mono, braid and 2-dozen diamond jigs, will run you around $250-$300 on Amazon. Bring some shore-casting and trolling stuff too.

Or you can buy a spool of line, hooks, sinkers, lures, gloves...:biggrin:


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[*] posted on 3-2-2017 at 10:30 AM


any medium heavy X-fast and a handful of kroc's and you're good to go:coolup:
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[*] posted on 3-2-2017 at 10:31 AM


I fish both sides of Baja. My go to is a 7' mid. action with a 30 lb Spinner. I use a 3/4oz to 1.5 Krocodile or Castmaster. I will also troll them with a bobber about 3-5 feet ahead of the lure. I will keep them off the bottom when you stop. You can use a floating rapala style too.
I will change the floro to lighter line depending on where and what I hope to catch.
I fish the plastic on the pac side, swim baits and grubs both work.




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[*] posted on 3-2-2017 at 10:46 AM


Consider a medium backbone rod (15-40) with a fast tip. Probably 7 foot. You can cast it a mile, yet you still have enough stiffness to land YT into the low 30s. The fast tip helps put at circular action into a knife/butterfly jig, if you work it right. Very enticing. That is for jigging from a boat.

I am really liking my new Penn Fathom 25N with a rod like this. Even 2oz lures are very castable. 50-65# spectra with a small topshot. Fishing from a boat, go with 40-50 topshot. If you are going surf casting, drop down to 15#. FG knots are pretty easy to tie in camp. I dont soak bait, surfcasting. I keep moving and casting, even if I have a live sand crab or whatever.
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[*] posted on 3-2-2017 at 10:58 AM


Quote: Originally posted by DaliDali  
Any type of rubber lure will get destroyed in very short order by the swarms of triggerfish (chochi) that hang out in the Sea.

After living and fishing the SOC around the Loreto area for 16 years, absolutely the best lure for fishing nearshore and trolling along from a kayak would be a Rebel Fastrak style jointed minnow in either gold/black or silver/black colors.

These are not made anymore, but a few can be had off Ebay listed as "vintage" lures.
I believe the "jointed" style lure is far and away the better choice over a solid model.

For a deeper diving lure, a Rebel Spoonbill jointed minnow is great in those same colors.

For casting, a Krocodile metal lure in 1 oz or 1.5 oz chrome prism tape color is a great lure. Let flutter down to the bottom and begin a slow retrieve....too fast a retrieve will just spin the lure...rather than the enticing wobble.
Good luck

[Edited on 3-2-2017 by DaliDali]


What size Rebel Fastrak do you recommend?
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[*] posted on 3-2-2017 at 11:19 AM


BBR.......there are only two sizes...4 1/2" and 5 1/2".

Not made anymore and tough to impossible to find.

I have now been forced to go to a similar Rebel without the "fastrac" lip feature.

http://www.rebellures.com/rebel-jointed-minnow-fishing-lure



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[*] posted on 3-2-2017 at 12:53 PM


I've used split tail scampis with great success... sometimes going as far as to paint the lead heads red. I have no idea if that made a difference but my fisherman friend swore by it.

And, yes, they will chew the hell out of them!

But, they are cheap, they work great and you will have dinner.

I would put them into the mix since it seemed every day was different.

I bought big bags of the rootbeer, red and also white and I had great success with them all.

It is good to have options.
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[*] posted on 3-2-2017 at 01:12 PM


SoulPatch...

I too have bags and bags of the rubbery things and enough leadheads to sink a boat.

But for the life of me, I cannot keep the cochis off them.

But they work great in the Pac side for all kinds of fish that hang out nearshore. So I keep them.





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[*] posted on 3-2-2017 at 02:15 PM


Quote: Originally posted by DaliDali  
BBR.......there are only two sizes...4 1/2" and 5 1/2".

Not made anymore and tough to impossible to find.

I have now been forced to go to a similar Rebel without the "fastrac" lip feature.

http://www.rebellures.com/rebel-jointed-minnow-fishing-lure

Thanks!



[Edited on 3-2-2017 by DaliDali]
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[*] posted on 3-2-2017 at 02:30 PM


Quote: Originally posted by DaliDali  
SoulPatch...

I too have bags and bags of the rubbery things and enough leadheads to sink a boat.

But for the life of me, I cannot keep the cochis off them.

But they work great in the Pac side for all kinds of fish that hang out nearshore. So I keep them.



It's been a few years since I've been on the SOC.... things change!

I used them for the cabrilla and had great success.

I won't deny catching a few cochi, too! Here they call them bota... go figure.

Still makes damn good ceviche, though.

I was only using them in the shallowest of water on reef drifts.

My go to was the Kroc or the Kastmaster... those Rebels were great on the troll but I did not troll all that much.

Edited for some horrible grammar!
Jajaja, any day on the cortez is a good day.




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[*] posted on 3-2-2017 at 05:01 PM
Pro and con for taking a lighter weight rod


PRO

1 They are easy to pack around, and fun to use

2 You will have more fun landing smaller fish

3 You will have some great 'One that got away' stories!

CON

1 You will have some great 'One that got away' stories!

Hook's suggestions sound right on to me!




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[*] posted on 3-2-2017 at 05:47 PM


30# setup is fished fish 12# drag tops. 10,20 and 30# floro leaders if needed. the faster the better.

no rubber as the toothy critter will make swiss cheese out of it.

crocs, megabaits, lucky joe and a few bait hooks.

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[*] posted on 3-3-2017 at 12:05 PM


Rod = Seeker black steel 809
Reel = Pro Gear V30-2
Load it with hollow spectra (White)
Leader = 10' of your favorite florocarbon
3/4 - 2 oz. leadheads...plain
6" Big Hammer swimbaits in clear/red flake, calico hunter, sardine and Xmas tree.
Pro Cure scent for your swimbaits

Learn how to tie a knot or two:

http://www.animatedknots.com/indexfishing.php#ScrollPoint

Fish on structure and where water is moving (Boiler rocks, reefs, wrecks, jetties, high spots)

Fish incoming tides when possible

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[*] posted on 3-3-2017 at 12:28 PM


:lol: thats some expensive taco bass and triggers you'll be catching!
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[*] posted on 3-3-2017 at 12:33 PM


Quote: Originally posted by BajaBuckeye  
In late April my wife and I are going to drive the length of the Baja Peninsula stopping to beach camp along the way. We are bringing kayaks and I'd like to do some fishing in the Sea Of Cortez out of my kayak. Could someone recommend what lb. test line would work as a starting point and would a medium action rod work OK? A recommendation of a few artificial baits would be appreciated as well. This will be my first attempt at salt water fishing and my expectations aren't high I just want to give it a try. My wife doesn't fish by the way. Thanks in advance for your responses!!!


First time? Dont sunk a lot of $$ until you know you like it

Get a used rod/reel, and cheap lures. Jigging for bottom fish is less about the lure and more about the technique.


For kayak fishing for bottom fish consider just jigging with a hand line.
If you catch a little fish, put him on weighted line with a hook, and let the live bait work its magic far superior to a lure.
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