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kencolamarino
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Massive Federale Presence Now in San Jose
https://colectivopericu.net/2017/03/17/es-mi-opinion-591/#mo...
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pacificobob
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if i were a resort/hotel owner in the violence affected area, i would be on the phone raising hell with law enforcement. when jamaica had a bunch of
civil unrest in 1977 the tourism dropped way off, and never really recovered for many years.
here in todos/pesky, there have been a few events lately that have got the expats twitchy.
vamos a ver que pasa
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Not one to be alarmist, we all know Cartel incidents rarely if
ever affect Gringos. The personal home burglaries/don't want to
use the word assault, are another matter. Have listened BCS to resort owners for yrs.,
especially East Cape, crow about So. Baja being so isolated,
using the phrase 'it's almost an island', not affected by
mainland violence
[Edited on 3-20-2017 by sancho]
[Edited on 3-20-2017 by sancho]
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Quote: Originally posted by sancho  | Not one to be alarmist, we all know Cartel incidents rarely if
ever affect Gringos. The personal home burglaries are another matter. Have listened BCS to resort owners for yrs.,
especially East Cape, crow about So. Baja being so isolated,
using the phrase 'it's almost an island', not affected by
mainland violence
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Agree- "civilians" are usually not at risk- tho that has changed in recent years as the "war on drugs" has destabilized some markets.
I went thru a similar situation in San Miguel (near Ensenada) in the mid-90s, when the Arellano cartel was still in charge of most of the illegal
drugs in Mexico. We had a series of burglaries/break-ins by a local gang, who (rumor had it) then tried to move into drug smuggling.
One night, nearly 20 people were rounded up and shot dead, in a family compound nearby. One person survived, buried under the bodies. When people
asked if I was scared to be living so close to such brutality, I replied: "No, because I'm not in that business. This was business, not random
violence."
It was brutal, and effective: the burglaries/break-ins stopped and the Arellanos controlled the market for several more years.
\"Probably the airplanes will bring week-enders from Los Angeles before long, and the beautiful poor bedraggled old town will bloom with a
Floridian ugliness.\" (John Steinbeck, 1940, discussing the future of La Paz, BCS, Mexico)
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pacificobob
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in regard to violence, we must keep in mind reality takes a back seat to perception. the first time an innocent gringo bystander catches a bullet, the
s**t will most certainly hit the fan, and many will stay away in droves.
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Anyone who thinks a cartel thug gives two chits about a gringo getting a stray round is living in their own fantasy world. Once the Head Honcho is
established things will get back to 'normal'. Meantime, i'd keep my third eye working overtime. The Baja corridor is gonna become more of an issue
too.... just a matter of time and of course, MONEY.
I don't have a BUCKET LIST, but I do have a F***- IT LIST a mile long!
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pacificobob
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and yet real estate in todos/pesky area is selling briskly.
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It's not the stray bullet as much as the home invasions and thievery that effects everyone. Kids and adults as well are getting strung out on
"chuki"/meth, and they will steal from their grandmother to stay high. The final market for the cartels product is no longer just north of the border.
Drive around any town in BCS around 5 in the morning, you will see the zombies wandering the streets still high and up all night.
It's an epidemic now and local profits are to be made in the local "plazas", hence the shootings.
The natural progression out of the drug trade for cartel business is extortion, then kidnapping. If things keep going they way they are going.......
Just a few short years ago BCS was immune to the violence that effects other states in the republic.
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That can be a byproduct of the perceived danger.
Real estate has been selling fairly briskly over here, too, for the last year. The difference is the customers are Mexican, not gringos.
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| Quote: Originally posted by Hook |
That can be a byproduct of the perceived danger.
Real estate has been selling fairly briskly over here, too, for the last year. The difference is the customers are Mexican, not gringos.
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hook did you get over to watch the start of the sonora rally this morning?
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I never heard anything about it in San Carlos.
Looking at their website, Pto. Penasco, the starting point, is an eight hour drive on pavement from here. I dont like off-road racing that much. PP is
not a pleasant place, to me.
I did participate in the inaugural San Carlazo "fun ride" last year. I dont think it's a race, just a big sixty mile loop through the desert. Only
three "gringo rigs" in the whole thing, out of about 100 entrants.
http://www.sancarlazo.com/
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| Quote: Originally posted by pacificobob | | in regard to violence, we must keep in mind reality takes a back seat to perception. the first time an innocent gringo bystander catches a bullet, the
s**t will most certainly hit the fan, and many will stay away in droves. |
Not to burst your security bubble but, many gringos are being killed wholesale in Mexico, and I've yet to see any s**t on the fan. Call it greed or
ignorance, but I think gringos just don't care about being the victims of violence. We would like to think that if we are victimized in Baja there
would be a big outcry, people would stay away, the locals will hurt, and because of the financial repercussions we should be protected. But this aint
happening Baja sur is going bonkers and I think that the governments local, state and federal should step up and protect this golden goose.
http://mexiconewsdaily.com/opinion/what-are-chances-of-being...
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willardguy
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two gringo deaths in los cabos in a two years....wholesale gringo murder?
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| Quote: Originally posted by luv2fish | | Quote: Originally posted by pacificobob | | in regard to violence, we must keep in mind reality takes a back seat to perception. the first time an innocent gringo bystander catches a bullet, the
s**t will most certainly hit the fan, and many will stay away in droves. |
Not to burst your security bubble but, many gringos are being killed wholesale in Mexico, and I've yet to see any s**t on the fan. Call it greed or
ignorance, but I think gringos just don't care about being the victims of violence. |
On the first point, I think you are wrong, not many gringos being killed in mexico.
On the second point, you are right, gringos don't care about being victims of violence - the proof is in the high levels of gun violence in USA and
when the gringos look at gun violence around the world being directly correlated to quantity of guns, they conclude more guns is the answer. I chit
you not! Gringos don't care about being victims of violence.
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| Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 | | Quote: Originally posted by luv2fish | | Quote: Originally posted by pacificobob | | in regard to violence, we must keep in mind reality takes a back seat to perception. the first time an innocent gringo bystander catches a bullet, the
s**t will most certainly hit the fan, and many will stay away in droves. |
Not to burst your security bubble but, many gringos are being killed wholesale in Mexico, and I've yet to see any s**t on the fan. Call it greed or
ignorance, but I think gringos just don't care about being the victims of violence. |
On the first point, I think you are wrong, not many gringos being killed in mexico.
On the second point, you are right, gringos don't care about being victims of violence - the proof is in the high levels of gun violence in USA and
when the gringos look at gun violence around the world being directly correlated to quantity of guns, they conclude more guns is the answer. I chit
you not! Gringos don't care about being victims of violence. |
well now see, that's because you're an idiot. if gringos don't care about beings victims of violence how do explain the mass exodus of gringo's from
tijuana/rosarito 10 years ago when the murder rate hit 800+..?
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How can anyone respond to a unitless rate? 
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but you can't deny you're an idiot....true?
and WTF are you disputing?
[Edited on 3-25-2017 by willardguy]
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kencolamarino
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And the "Hits" keep rolling on.
http://www.borderlandbeat.com/2017/03/los-cabos-3-dismembere...
https://colectivopericu.net/2017/03/24/sanjosedelcabo-video-...
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| Quote: Originally posted by soulpatch | Just talked to a school parent who has a business there ( he is a Mexicano ) and he says there are plenty of bodies dropping that people are not
hearing about.
He thinks the tactic now is to make sure they are becoming more publicly known.
I can only relay what he has told me, though. |
Before this past election, I never really thought of the power that the media has in both reporting and not reporting. I think that what Señor
Soulpatch is saying resonates with this. At the rate that Baja Norte is going they are on track to meet or exceed 2008 murder rate but we don't hear
too much of it, then when we do, we get peeed off because they are reporting it.
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