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elgatoloco
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Quote: Originally posted by lencho  |
Which:
1) If what I've uh... heard about potency is true, would probably be a lifetime supply for those that choose it as an alternative;
2) Is probably less than many Nomads' annual ethanol bill. |
True on both counts.  
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David K
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| Quote: Originally posted by BooJumMan |
I'm surprised by your arrogance DK. I have respect of your passion of Baja, but to go to this area once and act like an expert is embarrassing.
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Arrogance ???
Not my intention at all...
It was my second time on most of those roads and even a third on some. You actually need to read the trip report to get that.
So I can improve and not "embarrass you", please quote where I "acted like an expert" of anything other than what may be considered such (driving on
dirt roads, camping, and Baja history are the only three that may have sounded that way if they were mentioned) being one with over 40 years adult
experience with them.
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David K
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| Quote: Originally posted by shari | I would keep these documented potential "trouble" areas in mind David if you do a tourist guide book....I always warn our guests who asked me about
places to camp...not to camp in certain places we know have ummm....possible narco activity or are particulary risky. At least they will have been
warned.
May not be prudent to lead a whack of innocent campers to into a dangerous area. |
The "book" content is pretty much right here and for you, me other Nomads.... people who already go to Baja and may want to expand their trips to
enjoy more. Should I add there may be chupacabras and alien spaceships too, as a warning? I expect and advise anyone who leaves pavement for more than
an earshot of the highway to have responsibility and only go if they are already seasoned off-road drivers, have good quality tires, vehicles, and
supplies.
To the surfers who want to keep it peaceful there: a book, magazine, or website report does not bring in hoards of goofy footing city slickers. If
that were true it would be busy with surfers because books, magazines, and websites have been detailing the Seven Sisters for ages.
It is GOOD ROADS you need to fear.
Even with that excellent dirt highway all the way to Punta Cono from Santa Rosalillita, the place is still deserted 95% of the year.
You went there a first time. Are you so holy that nobody else can go there after you did?
My report, guide, whatever, does NOT mention surfing spots (or fishing spots) just road details because there actually are other people who like to
drive on dirt roads, see the backcountry or see beaches who DO NOT SURF!
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: Originally posted by David K | | Quote: Originally posted by shari | I would keep these documented potential "trouble" areas in mind David if you do a tourist guide book....I always warn our guests who asked me about
places to camp...not to camp in certain places we know have ummm....possible narco activity or are particulary risky. At least they will have been
warned.
May not be prudent to lead a whack of innocent campers to into a dangerous area. |
The "book" content is pretty much right here and for you, me other Nomads.... people who already go to Baja and may want to expand their trips to
enjoy more. Should I add there may be chupacabras and alien spaceships too, as a warning? I expect and advise anyone who leaves pavement for more than
an earshot of the highway to have responsibility and only go if they are already seasoned off-road drivers, have good quality tires, vehicles, and
supplies.
To the surfers who want to keep it peaceful there: a book, magazine, or website report does not bring in hoards of goofy footing city slickers. If
that were true it would be busy with surfers because books, magazines, and websites have been detailing the Seven Sisters for ages.
It is GOOD ROADS you need to fear.
Even with that excellent dirt highway all the way to Punta Cono from Santa Rosalillita, the place is still deserted 95% of the year.
You went there a first time. Are you so holy that nobody else can go there after you did?
My report, guide, whatever, does NOT mention surfing spots (or fishing spots) just road details because there actually are other people who like to
drive on dirt roads, see the backcountry or see beaches who DO NOT SURF! |
"You went there a first time. Are you so holy that nobody else can go there after you did?"
Dk, i think people are pointing out that narco activity should be pointed out as a potential hazard... i dont think people are making up stories about
narco activity to falsely scare away people
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David K
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Then all of Baja should be reported as a narco location... as all of California, all of the USA, etc., because there are narcotics crimes here, too.
YET, we all still go to Baja, to Disneyland, to the market down the street.
Where do you draw a line to the fact that bad stuff happens EVERYWHERE and you will either be a part of it or not? The location has little to do with
it.... because it happens EVERYWHERE.
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Bajaboy
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| Quote: Originally posted by shari | I would keep these documented potential "trouble" areas in mind David if you do a tourist guide book....I always warn our guests who asked me about
places to camp...not to camp in certain places we know have ummm....possible narco activity or are particulary risky. At least they will have been
warned.
May not be prudent to lead a whack of innocent campers to into a dangerous area. |
If these areas are known for narco activity, why don't the authorities patrol more? Unless of course they are paid to look the other way. I've
always wondered how drugs can flow so easily up the Peninsula?
So yes, please share trouble areas if possible.
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David K
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It is patrolled, some of it, anyway.
There was a military humvee that was on the Santa Catarina/Canoas road just before I got on it.
I waited for their dust to settle by having a look at the ghost town of Guayaquil first.
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MMc
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what Shari said!!!!
I spent a day helping a guy stuck along there. He had no business being there. He had read a report about it on Nomads and went for it, even he agreed
his was in over his head. He had been there for a day and a half, we were the first people he saw. Not even the narcos go there much in the winter.
When I saw the video posted above, I took it off the list of places to visit again.
"Never teach a pig to sing it frustrates you and annoys the pig" - W.C.Fields
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rts551
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| Quote: Originally posted by MMc | what Shari said!!!!
I spent a day helping a guy stuck along there. He had no business being there. He had read a report about it on Nomads and went for it, even he agreed
his was in over his head. He had been there for a day and a half, we were the first people he saw. Not even the narcos go there much in the winter.
When I saw the video posted above, I took it off the list of places to visit again. |
I am with you on this one. People rush to make recommendations on the roads in that area...sometimes with little experience in the area or dated
information. When going this route we always travel with at least one other vehicle..preferably 2.
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