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[*] posted on 5-11-2017 at 08:56 AM


Quote: Originally posted by Doug/Vamonos  
Love my 6.0 and 5R110. Minor mods are all it needed. And the cost of those mods pales in comparison to $70,000 for a new truck! EVERY modern diesel has its issues. Including Cummins and GM/Isuzu. Pile on haters!


Hey Doug;

I dropped a lifter on my '04 6.0 Liter and bought another engine. '06 6.0L with 40K. SHe's still pulling and running good. About to upgrade the tranny pan to a '08 model. 10years. ~~200k miles @ $50k total no complaints with my ford.
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[*] posted on 5-11-2017 at 08:26 PM


In the 80's I drove a f550 with a Cat 3208 that had a blower, it hauled freight. That was a really fun job.



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[*] posted on 5-11-2017 at 11:25 PM


Saw one of these in town today...and recognized it, not from this thread....but from somewhere on the internet a few days ago....

http://speedsociety.com/dumbest-vehicle-ever-made-introducing-stupid-truck/

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[*] posted on 5-11-2017 at 11:38 PM


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Not knocking the 7.3 Lots of them around here doing work..Old Smokey is going on 400K and is not as high on power as he used to be (neither am I)...BUt still burns no oil, keeps on going...My Daughter has two Duramax's ..Not impressed....


Who would drive a truck with that many miles?

My new Duramax would run circles around that old clunker.
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[*] posted on 5-12-2017 at 12:08 AM


Jeez, chuckie.... I think JZ has some wood for ya.... :smug:



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[*] posted on 5-12-2017 at 12:34 AM


JZ owns a Duramax?:lol::lol::lol::lol: If he does his momma had to buy it for him....

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[*] posted on 5-12-2017 at 07:37 AM


To me, the greatest thing about the internet is how information about faulty engine systems are shared and fixes are publicized. I have probably saved between 10-20k in repairs.

If you were able to wait on buying even the best diesels (IMO, the 7.3 Navistar and the 5.9 Cummins), you would be aware of their shortcomings and can take pre-emptive measures to fix those systems before they fail.

I have a 2000 Ford with the 7.3. By combing through the diesel forums that popped up in the early 2000s, some things were evident. The trannys failed in heavy, hot use. Other issues with this truck was the cam position sensor and the throttle positioner at the foot pedal.

The sleeved pistons requires a special coolant additive that would eventually cause failure of the water pump seal, the thermostat and the thermostat housing. I was fortunate to be a member of a diesel forum where a guy who bought a huge fleet of 7.3s became the person who revealed the cooling cavitation issues to Ford and led to the need for the additive. He also passed on information when coolants were developed that no longer needed the additive.

The tranny issues with the 4r100 tranny turned out to be the torque converter, not the tranny itself. The converters from about 99-03 were single disc converters. Under heavy loads, there would be much slipping of the disc, which created heat, which was transferred to the tranny and caused it to fail. Many of us who bought used 99-03s simply replaced the torque converter with the one from 04-06; a triple disc model. It wasnt that expensive, if you knew where to buy online. The internet to the rescue again. Mine never failed even though I towed an 8000 lb boat and a camper on the back to Baja a few times. Also towed a 36 foot TT around the Desert SW in the summer, at elevation. No trannny issues, but I am only at 236k now. Of course, running synthetic tranny fluid is probably the single best thing anyone can do for a tranny. Conventional fluid breaks down at a much lower temp. That's what takes out trannies; that and simply dirty fluid.

I do still use a programmer that brings the stock 235hp up to 275, supposedly. It is certainly faster and stronger than on the stock setting.

The internet also revealed the infamous lift pump issues with the 5.9 Cummins. Many replaced those before they failed.

It's easy for a Toyota truck owner to point out how little fails on their trucks. But Toyotas are never asked to do even half of what we ask our diesels to do. There will be occasional issues when towing weights that are 3-5 times the unladen weight of a Tacoma by itself.
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[*] posted on 5-12-2017 at 09:09 AM


Good points, all...It really pays to research and understand the weaknesses of the engine you pick AND to add things that help you understand how your engine is feeling....Transmission temp guage example. Trucks that are not asked to do truck work shouldn't be held up as examples ....



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