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[*] posted on 8-6-2017 at 03:52 PM


Geezo..More time is spent talking about this lil bitty 23 miles of road, which by Baja standards isn't even really bad, than has been spent discussing Christianity...Drive it and shut up! ITS 23 MILES! Wimps



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[*] posted on 8-6-2017 at 04:38 PM


Hmmm, why would we discuss that on a Baja Road Conditions forum?
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Kind of like discussing gas prices, as if that would stop you from going to Baja? Dirt roads are one of the many things that Baja is famous for.

That it is taking them so many years for this ~20 mile section of highway (23 dirt detour miles) is what is amazing (that they can milk a job for so long). If they would just curve around a couple of peaks instead of removing the mountain so this highway can run almost straight, it bet it could be done in a year or two.

Only a couple of earth mover scoops were working, some machines/dump trucks appeared parked and broken, and what few workers that could be seen were mostly at the food shack. That was also the only work camp (in the canyon). The camp at Las Arrastras, active last January, was gone.

They had been averaging about 6-8 miles a year from when the started at Puertecitos in 2007 to where the pavement reached in early 2014. Now, nearing 4 years and not a single meter of new paving open to use.

I guess no incentive to complete early or on time exists? We know Mexico can do it, as they did in 1973 with the Transpeninsular Highway from San Quintin to San Ignacio all in one year!




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[*] posted on 8-6-2017 at 04:39 PM


Quote: Originally posted by David K  
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I like recording travel details and if others enjoy them too, why not share? I drew my first Baja map when I was 9 or 10 (1967, glad I dated it) and my first published road guide when I was 15 (1973). So, I guess I was born to do this stuff! I have my parents to thank for infecting me with 'Baja Fever' and it sure directed my life!


A generation later, you would be prescribed Adderall for ADHD, and have your therapist to thank! :spingrin::tumble:

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[*] posted on 8-6-2017 at 04:40 PM


I agree, lol!



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[*] posted on 8-6-2017 at 09:37 PM


I guess we need some of these very successful gringo businessman/engineers to manage these road projects. hmmmmm maybe not.
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[*] posted on 8-6-2017 at 10:13 PM


I would guess that the reason for the massive cuts through the mountain, is because they need a hell of a lot of fill material going across the dry lake bed.





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[*] posted on 8-6-2017 at 10:49 PM


The levee is already done across the valley. You drive on about 2 miles of it, a bit on each side. The closed part is south of the older road. An interesting stop is at the trees in the middle, which was the original Rancho Laguna Chapala site, before the highway was built to the west side of the valley. A large, ooen, deep well is there. Can't see the bottom!



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[*] posted on 8-29-2017 at 10:47 AM
AUG. 13, 2017 NEWS


NEW ROADBED OPEN!
In the 2 weeks since I was last on this route, barriers blocking the new highway elevated roadbed (south of the original road) were removed and other cars were on it. During construction, these detours could very well change back.

Mile 0.0 Hwy. 1 & Hwy. 5 Junction, 1:58 pm.
Mile 0.9 Fork right onto new roadbed.
Mile 3.5 original and new roads rejoin.
Mile 5.2 off of new roadbed.
Mile 8.0 Construction camp, leave new road alignment and head for Coco's Corner.
Mile 12.9 Coco's Corner 2:36 pm
Mile 16.8 Las Arrastras 2:45 pm Rejoin new road route.
Mile 22.3 On pavement and new bridges.
Mile 23.2 Km. 167 (just north of previous pavement start.
Mile 35.5 Km. 147 Gonzaga Bay Pemex, 3:12 pm


Paved bridge, new section, Chapala Valley.


New section, Chapala Valley.


Can you imagine how Arturo Grosso made the first road through here, in 1955? Picks and dynamite!










Here is where the highway leaves the original route (northbound) and shoots straight to Las Arrastras, bypassing Coco's Corner.


Nearing Coco's Corner.


Here at Las Arrastras, is where the new highway returns to the original route, on the north end of the Coco's Bypass.


Old and new routes criss-cross a few times.


Gonzaga Bay, dead ahead!

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[*] posted on 9-7-2017 at 08:30 AM


We came thru on 9/4 after Lidia. We were a little worried about the rain damage, but not an issue. It does look like there are far less workers on hwy 5 from our last trip down which was about 6 months ago. The work seems to mostly be thru the pass. You can drive on a lot of the sections of the road as long as the construction people don't put the piles of dirt back up. We easily took our 30ft travel trailer thru without an issue. Really the only issue is more with the pave section north of Gonzaga where big rocks have fallen on to the road (an important reason not to travel at night). Several areas do have some sort of warning, but not all. Its the Baja, take your time, travel during the day, and be safe.
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[*] posted on 9-7-2017 at 11:26 AM


Didn't we see these pictures somewhere else already?
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[*] posted on 9-7-2017 at 04:29 PM


The next to last picture showing a bridge with dirt piles at each end looks like the turn off to the La Turquesa mine. Turn off is at the upper left side of the bridge.
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[*] posted on 9-7-2017 at 05:26 PM


In Nov 2014 I shot a photo sphere, I *think* at that location, pre-construction.

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[*] posted on 9-30-2017 at 08:03 PM


OK, so, How many miles of dirt do we have now?
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[*] posted on 9-30-2017 at 10:53 PM


About 22 miles last month.



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[*] posted on 10-1-2017 at 07:19 AM


About 22 miles. Lots of progress knocking the mountain down going through the pass. That is all. Rood is in worse condition after the rains.
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[*] posted on 10-1-2017 at 02:53 PM


Oh OK, I had gotten from Davids last post that more paved was open but I guess just another mile is opened..
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[*] posted on 10-1-2017 at 04:01 PM


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Oh OK, I had gotten from Davids last post that more paved was open but I guess just another mile is opened..

Yes, 0.9 mile (1.5 kms.) additional was open last month... but for how long, who knows? It may have been a fluke that the barrier northbound was removed.
There isn't much more blacktop applied south of where we got on the pavement.




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[*] posted on 10-1-2017 at 04:37 PM


There is a small chance we will be going down again after Feb. so would like to go that way again. Be taking a non 4x4 vehicle though so may may end up going down 1
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[*] posted on 10-1-2017 at 08:00 PM


4WD is not needed on that or any other graded dirt road in Baja. The exception is during heavy rain maybe.



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