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Quote: Originally posted by BajaBreak  | I didn't see much debating.
Sonora Wind, that is an interesting observation, of not seeing the other hunters out there.
Damming the Colorado river really damned the Sea of Cortez. It will never be undone enough to make a significant impact (although the recent flows
they've released were a nice idea), but it is the one thing that could revive it. At this point I wonder if releasing a bunch of water into the delta
wouldn't just pollute the crap out of the upper Cortez.
I stopped eating shrimp because of the by-catch losses. Getting the fishermen to use the less damaging rolling shrimp nets would be great too. People
that want to fund efforts should try to work on that among other things. I'll keep dreaming. |
Amen times ten.
Daming the Colorado with the Damn Dams is only the first stage of the SOC's destruction. Since the 30's and then the 60's that dried everything up
the amount of shrimping is the singular-most devastating harvesting there is. I've boycotted eating shrimp for years.... and the silly debate about
shrimping vs. lobstering on this thread is laughable. It's comparing oranges to orangutans (pun intended). Lobsters are done in traps or with
divers. Shrimping leads to a 10x1 destruction of life and a jettison of usable product over the side. It's a rampant rape of life in the harvest for
one specific species. I think for the gluttony of the WORLD for shrimp it surpasses long-lining and 5-mile-long netting trawlers. Maybe yes, maybe
no, I can't know. What I do know is, the SOC used to be one of the richest areas of bounty in the world. So much for that, eh?
Post script.... compared to the CT boundary extinction of 65 million years ago, we've accomplished in less than 100 years what it accomplished in less
than 100 days possibly. However, comparing them to each other is again with oranges to orangutans (pun intended). Anyone who does to me is either
misguided, am 'alternative news' nut, or both.
[Edited on 6-18-2017 by bajabuddha]
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This is one of solutions. However, stone-age mentality of 3rd world countries - mostly contributing to this population growth - is near impossible to
overturn. There are plenty of radical pro-lifers in the western world (radical to the point that no measures of birth control should be used at all),
who can't and wouldn't think outside the box either. So I guess talk is useless.
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| Quote: Originally posted by Alm |
This is one of solutions. However, stone-age mentality of 3rd world countries - mostly contributing to this population growth - is near impossible to
overturn. There are plenty of radical pro-lifers in the western world (radical to the point that no measures of birth control should be used at all),
who can't and wouldn't think outside the box either. So I guess talk is useless. |
It is not natural to not have kids. Nature gave us the means and the urge to make many. Therefore we should not use birth control. Besides, why
should we have less children when all the third world countries breed incessantly.
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| Quote: Originally posted by TMW | | I think it would be helpful if families would have less kids. Less mouths to feed. How many billion will it be before there is not enough food. Some
are already starving. |
Mexico's fertility rate, births per woman, has fallen from 6.8 in 1960 to 2.2 in 2015. The US is at 1.8.
http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.DYN.TFRT.IN
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| Quote: Originally posted by norte | | it is not natural to not have kids. Nature gave us the means and the urge to make many. Therefore we should not use birth control. Besides, why
should we have less children when all the third world countries breed incessantly. |
Seriously, it's Idiocracy, like the movie...
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The Duggars. America's Christian sharia law.
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Today the human species has become akin to Locust and are ravaging and polluting it an alarming rate.
What the world NEEDS is an old fashioned pandemic to do away with about 90% of us.
That would give some time for mother earth to heal itself.
Humans ARE the most destructive species on earth, bar none.
Driven by the two worst human traits, GREED and EGO ......
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People think and hope that science wiill solve all the earths problems .
Good luck with that. Think Soylent green........
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| Quote: Originally posted by Paco Facullo | Today the human species has become akin to Locust and are ravaging and polluting it an alarming rate.
What the world NEEDS is an old fashioned pandemic to do away with about 90% of us.
That would give some time for mother earth to heal itself.
Humans ARE the most destructive species on earth, bar none.
Driven by the two worst human traits, GREED and EGO ...... |
Perhaps, but what other ANIMAL species does so much to save other species as do humans to save the whales, the condors, the gnatcatcher, etc. etc.
etc.. Which animal species OTHER THAN humans have hospitals and care centers for their fellow animals? Sure there are bad humans, but there are far
more good ones... they just don't make the evening news as much!
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| Quote: Originally posted by David K | | Quote: Originally posted by Paco Facullo | Today the human species has become akin to Locust and are ravaging and polluting it an alarming rate.
What the world NEEDS is an old fashioned pandemic to do away with about 90% of us.
That would give some time for mother earth to heal itself.
Humans ARE the most destructive species on earth, bar none.
Driven by the two worst human traits, GREED and EGO ...... |
Perhaps, but what other ANIMAL species does so much to save other species as do humans to save the whales, the condors, the gnatcatcher, etc. etc.
etc.. Which animal species OTHER THAN humans have hospitals and care centers for their fellow animals? Sure there are bad humans, but there are far
more good ones... they just don't make the evening news as much! |
Now this makes a lot of sense. Great argument for mankind.
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| Quote: Originally posted by David K |
Perhaps, but what other ANIMAL species does so much to save other species as do humans to save the whales, the condors, the gnatcatcher, etc. etc.
etc.. Which animal species OTHER THAN humans have hospitals and care centers for their fellow animals? Sure there are bad humans, but there are far
more good ones... they just don't make the evening news as much! |
Damn whales - why don't they set up their own whale hospitals? Sad. Guess they're not so smart after all. Freeloaders.
Experience enables you to recognize a mistake every time you repeat it.
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| Quote: Originally posted by David K | | Quote: Originally posted by Paco Facullo | Today the human species has become akin to Locust and are ravaging and polluting it an alarming rate.
What the world NEEDS is an old fashioned pandemic to do away with about 90% of us.
That would give some time for mother earth to heal itself.
Humans ARE the most destructive species on earth, bar none.
Driven by the two worst human traits, GREED and EGO ...... |
Perhaps, but what other ANIMAL species does so much to save other species as do humans to save the whales, the condors, the gnatcatcher, etc. etc.
etc.. Which animal species OTHER THAN humans have hospitals and care centers for their fellow animals? Sure there are bad humans, but there are far
more good ones... they just don't make the evening news as much! |
Most humans are greedy or thoughtless. A minority is altruistic.
Half of all humans have sub-average intelligence - unfortunately these sub-average are allowed to hold public office and vote, witness the present
trump administration debacle.
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| Quote: Originally posted by norte | | Quote: Originally posted by David K |
Perhaps, but what other ANIMAL species does so much to save other species as do humans to save the whales, the condors, the gnatcatcher, etc. etc.
etc.. Which animal species OTHER THAN humans have hospitals and care centers for their fellow animals? Sure there are bad humans, but there are far
more good ones... they just don't make the evening news as much! |
David,
Is that what you really think?
As your boy says....."sad" ....
Your comment "there are far more good ones... they just don't make the evening news as much!" is rather ironic |
Don't believe everything you think....
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| Quote: Originally posted by motoged | | Quote: Originally posted by norte | | Quote: Originally posted by David K |
Perhaps, but what other ANIMAL species does so much to save other species as do humans to save the whales, the condors, the gnatcatcher, etc. etc.
etc.. Which animal species OTHER THAN humans have hospitals and care centers for their fellow animals? Sure there are bad humans, but there are far
more good ones... they just don't make the evening news as much! |
David,
Is that what you really think?
As your boy says....."sad" ....
Your comment "there are far more good ones... they just don't make the evening news as much!" is rather ironic |
Can't wait to see the gnatcatcher hospital. The whole statement is one for the ages. |
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| Quote: Originally posted by David K |
Perhaps, but what other ANIMAL species does so much to save other species as do humans to save the whales, the condors, the gnatcatcher, etc. etc.
etc.. |
This is NOT a valid argument!
The only reason we have to put effort into saving these endangered species is because WE have F'ed them up in the first place. In nature void of
humans, there is a natural balance of prey and predator. When the prey diminishes, the predators move on and the natural balance returns. Humans just
rape and rape and when a resource is almost gone, we try and make amens to save what's left, mostly with little success.
In the natural world, again devoid of humans, rarely will a species decimate the environment to extinction so as they themselves are done.
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| Quote: Originally posted by Bajazly | | In the natural world, again devoid of humans, rarely will a species decimate the environment to extinction so as they themselves are done.
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And certainly not over the course of only a few generations.
Everything is well set in it's way, so I just try to respect nature and enjoy what I can while I can. Some people's opinions are so over the top I
can't take them seriously, and I can't believe some people seem to. I do have a sense of humor though, so I do appreciate the laughter from some of
the earlier posts. It does help keep the site active.
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Most humans are greedy or thoughtless. A minority is altruistic.
Half of all humans have sub-average intelligence - unfortunately these sub-average are allowed to hold public office and vote, witness the present
trump administration debacle.
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So where do you stand? Sub average, average, or above average? Wait, don't answer that you may embarrass yourself...lol
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