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[*] posted on 6-18-2017 at 04:02 PM
A Gabacho Reflects on Visiting Tijuana for the First Time


From the OC Weekly: http://www.ocweekly.com/news/a-gabacho-reflects-on-visiting-...
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[*] posted on 6-20-2017 at 11:40 AM


What an insulting write up to both Americans, and Mexicans!

And the word "gabacho" is a pejorative slur. You could get away with using the word "Gringo" but not "gabacho, unless you're Gustavo Arellano, who pokes fun at Americans, Mexicans, and Mexico stereotypes, and even then it's an slur that shouldn't be used.

The writer here is some throw back named, Dave Barton, who has written for the OC Weekly for over twenty years, and probably when the OC was Reagan country, and the last bastion of conservatism.

I doubt Dave Barton, even recently visited Tijuana, but instead pushed one stereotype after another that he heard about or recounts his personal visit 20 years ago.

I agree with the real Linton Robinson's comments on this write up:

Linton Robinson · Freelance Writer at Free-lance Writer

This guy is an idiot. If you want to hear about Tijuana, why not get something written by somebody down here who knows it from a hole in the ground? Just ONE of the lame bits by this clown.... he can smell pee and tell it's from Americans? Thosands of times more Mexicans cross that walking border than Americans. You want a real story on TJ, get hold of me.

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[*] posted on 6-21-2017 at 01:56 PM


Fluff. I really didn't see anything too insulting though.
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[*] posted on 6-21-2017 at 03:00 PM


Quote: Originally posted by ehall  
Fluff. I really didn't see anything too insulting though.


The term 'gabacho' is not insulting nor a pejorative slur in Mexico. I have heard it used many of times among friends, latinos and gabachos.

I'm guessing the word was googled which will interpret it as pejorative, in SPAIN!

In Mexico it is used to describe foreigners, especially when the nationality is not known.

As far as the article it is quite accurate, boring and just one person's opinion. Tijuana, centro, smells - so what.
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[*] posted on 6-21-2017 at 03:59 PM


I don't find the use of the word "gabacho" insulting. I've heard it hundreds of times in Mexico. It's used interchangeably with "gringo."

Here's a link to an online slang dictionary for Spanish speakers:

http://www.jergasdehablahispana.org/?tipobusqueda=0&pais...
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[*] posted on 6-21-2017 at 04:03 PM


then again only one person here believes its a slur......:rolleyes:
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[*] posted on 6-22-2017 at 12:00 PM


Quote: Originally posted by gsbotanico  
I don't find the use of the word "gabacho" insulting. I've heard it hundreds of times in Mexico. It's used interchangeably with "gringo."

Here's a link to an online slang dictionary for Spanish speakers:

http://www.jergasdehablahispana.org/?tipobusqueda=0&pais...


Your own links says the word "gabacho" is derogatory in Spain towards the French.

In the same link it does say the word "gabacho" is synonymous with the word "gringo" in Mexico, but the example they use of the policeman stopping then in a car with placas gabachas is in many ways insulting.

Here is another definition from "Wikipedia, that says the word "gabacho" is a slang derogatory word used by Chicanos towards white Americans.

Maybe, because I'm Mexican-American, I definitely know the word "gabacho" is derogatory, and is often used in a derogatory way in places like Orange County by Mexican-Americans, towards white people.

Perhaps when Mexican nationals use the word "gabacho" there isn't much of a sting with the slang word, but then again, you really don't know what that smiling Mexican national is really thinking about white Americans.

I think in Mexico, or at least in Baja, the slang word "gabacho" is used more than the word 'gringo," because it seems only gringos call each other gringos.
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From Wikipedia:

Gabacho (Spanish pronunciation: [ɡaˈβatʃo]; feminine, gabacha) is a word used in the Spanish language to describe foreigners of different origins.

In Spain it is used as a pejorative reference to someone French, coming from the Catalan word gavatx which translates as foreigner.

In the United States it's a slang, derogatory term used by Chicanos for white Americans. It is not widely used or understood by Spanish-speakers in the Americas outside of the United States and Mexico. It is used in México.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabacho



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[*] posted on 6-22-2017 at 02:00 PM



It's a slur. Just as Gringo is a slur.
Would any self-respecting Mexican say, "ohh yeah...I'm a beaner" just because someone thinks it's cute? Hopefully not.




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[*] posted on 6-22-2017 at 02:43 PM


people have called me worse things that gringo or gabacho :biggrin:
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[*] posted on 6-22-2017 at 03:27 PM


Quote: Originally posted by DENNIS  

It's a slur. Just as Gringo is a slur.
Would any self-respecting Mexican say, "ohh yeah...I'm a beaner" just because someone thinks it's cute? Hopefully not.


I was waiting for Dennis to jump in this thread, because for years he has claimed that the word "gringo" is a slur.

I think Dennis says this so he could insult Mexicans with slang words like "beaner."

Gringo, would be a slur if the "P" word would be used before gringo, and the same goes for gabacho.


I don't think there are too many white Americans who are insulted over the word gringo, and there is even a US made movie titled " Old Gringo" and American businesses having the word 'gringo" in the title of their businesses. I don't think this would be the case if the word "gringo" was a slur.

I will say it's sad that many Mexicans often use physical attributes when referring to someone or giving them that nickname, for example, calling an over weight Mexican boy or man, "Gordo," as a nickname. Most of the time calling somebody 'gordo" isn't meant as an insult, but it could still be hurtful to the target.

It would also be nice if we could all be referred to by our name like Joe, Dennis, or Goat, instead of some slang word derogatory or not.




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[*] posted on 6-22-2017 at 03:31 PM


Quote: Originally posted by JoeJustJoe  

It would also be nice if we could all be referred to by our name like Joe, Dennis, or Goat, instead of some slang word derogatory or not.


you can call me anything you want, as long as you dont call me late for dinner
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[*] posted on 6-22-2017 at 04:53 PM


Back to the original post. The articel, it was elementary at best.

Gabacho is not derogatory word.

Mexicans are not as sensitive as liberal Americans.

That would make Mexicans more conservative than liberal... :cool:

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