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[*] posted on 6-21-2017 at 08:33 AM
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Yes,

A total math idiot. For example, I spent more money at the tolls than I will ever admit.

I decided to stay at Jardines for two more days. Low on dollars and pesos, I paid for on night $30. USD and the second night I paid in pesos 600.

Which was the better deal?
(will look for calculator today.)
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[*] posted on 6-21-2017 at 08:38 AM


At 18.15 to one, 600 pesos is 33.05 dollars.




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[*] posted on 6-21-2017 at 08:43 AM


It was 18.50 pesos per dollar last week. It all depends on what you paid for the pesos. Look at the receipt (if you got them at an exchange house).

600 divided by 18.50 = US$32.43.

The toll booths are cheap, no matter if you pay in pesos or dollars.
The three tolls to Ensenada were (in dollars) 1.80, 1.80, 1.95.




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[*] posted on 6-21-2017 at 09:36 AM


bookmark this link:

https://www.google.com.mx/search?q=dollars+to+pesos

just enter a value in one box and see the equivalent in the other

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[*] posted on 6-21-2017 at 09:45 AM


hit the bank ATM and load up on peso's and ignore the conversion jazz.;)
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[*] posted on 6-21-2017 at 09:55 AM


Load up on pesos in San Quentin. Below El Rosario the exchange rate drops to like 16 to 1 at some places.



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[*] posted on 6-21-2017 at 10:25 AM


Using my ATM card in Loreto 3 days ago I netted 17.88 to the $.

My suggestion is to get at least several hundred dollars worth of pesos and that gives you one less hassle to deal with and then concentrate on the fun things in Baja.

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[*] posted on 6-21-2017 at 11:24 AM


The SY cambios today, buying dlls at 17.73. Noticed many
San Felipe retail places taking dlls at 18. One would have
to do some noticeable transactions to see a few centavos
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[*] posted on 6-21-2017 at 11:45 AM


some get a little nutty about it.....take out a hundred bucks worth of peso's and the difference between 17=1 and 18=1 is two bottles of beer at the cantina :P
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[*] posted on 6-21-2017 at 11:54 AM


lets do the math...

17x100=1700
17x100=1800
difference
1800-1700=100

beer then =50 pesos each

the price of beer has really gone up






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[*] posted on 6-21-2017 at 12:19 PM


Quote: Originally posted by Bob and Susan  
lets do the math...

17x100=1700
17x100=1800
difference
1800-1700=100

beer then =50 pesos each

the price of beer has really gone up




I suppose it depends on the cantina you choose! :coolup:
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[*] posted on 6-21-2017 at 04:30 PM


Quote: Originally posted by del mar  
Quote: Originally posted by Bob and Susan  
lets do the math...

17x100=1700
17x100=1800
difference
1800-1700=100

beer then =50 pesos each

the price of beer has really gone up




I suppose it depends on the cantina you choose! :coolup:

:lol: who said Bob can't do arithmetic! $2.75 for a beer! highway robbery you whippersnappers!
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[*] posted on 6-21-2017 at 04:38 PM


Its chump change...Enjoy Baja..fuggedaboudit...



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[*] posted on 6-21-2017 at 04:49 PM


damn...if they ONLY sold miller light here...



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[*] posted on 6-26-2017 at 11:06 AM


The exchange rate keeps going down, that is, the peso is gaining strength against the USD. Beer prices haven't moved, however over the last several months. Unfair!

While in Baja, I drink Pacifico clara. I can get it for $13 pesos per 12 oz bottle. Started buying cans when it is cheaper than the trade-in bottles and putting a couple of beer mugs in the freezer chest. Pouring a cold can of Pacifico in a super chilled thick mug tastes almost as good as out of the bottles. That's my hedge on the exchange...Pacifico in cans.

I track the MXN/USD rate every day. It used to be that when the price of a barrel of oil went down, the peso would get weaker against the USD and the exchange rate would go up (peso getting weaker against the USD). That was the most significant long term effect on the exchange rate. Not so for the past several months. The only thing that I read about the explanation of the ongoing recent gaining of strength of the MXN is that the Mexican fear of Trump's Presidential trade policies concerning Mexico is waning. That is another way of saying that a significant factor of the exchange rate and early loss of strength of the Peso was in significant part due to fear of what the Trump Presidency would do to trade between Mexico and the US.

The Mexican government used the buying of pesos with USD last year to halt and retard loss of strength of the peso. That only worked in the short term. The Mexican govt doesn't have enough USD in their treasury to continue doing that.

3 years ago oil was $105.71 per barrel and the MXN/USD exchange rate was 12.97. In January 2017 oil was a $53.59 and the MXN/USD rate was at a high of 21.92. So, as the oil prices dropped, the peso lost a lot of strength. Makes sense. HOWEVER, today, WTI at $43.33, and the peso is at about 17.9. Since January of 2017, the price of oil has dropped 19% but the strength of the peso has increased by over 22%. Vectors going the wrong way.

What is worse, the price of meat and beer in pesos has gone up to reflect the higher exchange rates (weaker peso) in January of this year, but now that the peso has gained 22% strength against the USD (rate dropping from 21.92 to 17.9), the prices for meat and beer have not dropped in pesos. An outrage I tell you!.

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[*] posted on 6-26-2017 at 12:17 PM


that sounded good so I looked...
the graph doesn't support the claim the peso is tied to crude oil prices...

too bad

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[*] posted on 6-27-2017 at 11:27 AM


Quote: Originally posted by Bob and Susan  
that sounded good so I looked...
the graph doesn't support the claim the peso is tied to crude oil prices...too bad


Bob and Susan,
I'll fast forward...your graph reflects too short a time period to show the real correlation. You picked only the recent 5 or 6 months when I was speaking of much longer period. If you pick too short a period as your graph depicts, you will only see fluctuations, not a trend.

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My graph below shows the trend. Notice that the first dark vertical (scribbled) line at about the beginning of June 2014 and for the prior 2 years the price of oil and the MXN/USD rate stayed at flat same level, then, at the vertical line in June 2014 the MXN/USD rate started to climb at the same time the oil prices started to decline. Also, look at the overall price decline of oil from June 2014 to today, $110 to $43 and compare the increase of the MXN/USD rate from June 2014 to today, 13.0 to 17.9. That defines an undeniable trend and "correlation"; as oil prices go down, the MXN/USD rate goes up; a down-up correlation/trend.

Actually, if you look at June 14 to January 2017, the trend is even more firm: oil $110 to $53 and MXN/USD 13.0 to 21.9.

My first post was specifically directed to the last 5 months where that 'short term' activity went directly against the longer trend, that is, oil prices went down from $53 to $43 yet the MXN/USD went down as well from 21.9 to 17.9 today. That reflects a short term yet significant "down-down" movement.

Terminology: I didn't say that the exchange rate and the price of oil were "tied" to each other. In currency exchange parlance, tied and correlated are different. Tied generally means always and forever "fundamentally" linked and that one affects the other in a very direct way (one may even be a component in the other). But, correlation usually means that two things happen to move together but are not as inherently directly linked to each other as in being "tied", but "may" be indirectly connected to varying degrees of connection. It's a matter of degree.

If the MXN/USD rate were really directly tied to the price of oil you generally would not have the departure that I pointed out for the last five months to the previously established trend.

In my non-professional opinion, I do think that the price of oil and the exchange rate are definitely correlated in the long term. I just don't understand why the departure is so pronounced in the last 5 months. However, over the last 3 and 5 years, even with the exchange rate at 17.9 today, the correlation of down-up (oil-MXN/USD) holds overall.

[Edited on 6-27-2017 by MitchMan]
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[*] posted on 6-27-2017 at 11:46 AM


Imagine that...same thing WSJ says.
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[*] posted on 6-27-2017 at 12:05 PM


I don't see it...cant invest

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