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[*] posted on 6-29-2017 at 08:48 PM


Quote: Originally posted by KurtG  
Interesting responses but much as I expected. Please note that I was addressing "negative attacks on other posters." Not anyone's political views or beer preferences. "Negative attack" seems pretty easy to define, at least to me.





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[*] posted on 6-29-2017 at 10:12 PM


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[*] posted on 6-29-2017 at 10:33 PM


This was a setup. I just read David's post. He and Kurt are best buds. This was just another attempt at attention. geeze.
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[*] posted on 6-29-2017 at 11:25 PM


Norte, it was obvious to most who Kurt was asking some restraint from, I thought? Some here are always thanking Nomads who share here to help or entertain others. Then we see the few who try and chase off newbies as well as oldies with insults.



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[*] posted on 6-30-2017 at 01:19 AM


"WE" do? Is that the regal "we"?

[Edited on 6-30-2017 by chuckie]




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[*] posted on 6-30-2017 at 06:23 AM


Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Norte, it was obvious to most who Kurt was asking some restraint from, I thought? Some here are always thanking Nomads who share here to help or entertain others. Then we see the few who try and chase off newbies as well as oldies with insults.

If that is the case, then the request is nothing more than a quest by a few to get someone.

As I look at the various food fights that occur here, there is one thing in common. No matter who the fight is with, or the subject, you seem to be at the center of the squabble. Why is that? Maybe each of the members here at to look in the mirror instead of targeting individuals they do not agree with. Might go a long ways in making this forum better.
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[*] posted on 6-30-2017 at 06:27 AM


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[*] posted on 6-30-2017 at 07:03 AM


Quote: Originally posted by KurtG  
Interesting responses but much as I expected. Please note that I was addressing "negative attacks on other posters." Not anyone's political views or beer preferences. "Negative attack" seems pretty easy to define, at least to me.

Also I had hoped that the title of my post might show my intentions were a little tongue in cheek. My high school English Lit teacher forced me to read Swift's essay of the same title and introduced me to the use of satire.

I like satire.

I don't mean spirited people.



mean spirited people = old, angry, white guys whose lives just didn't turn out as they had hoped,being tough, with a drink in hand, behind the safety of a keyboard.
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[*] posted on 6-30-2017 at 07:17 AM


Ya gotta be white?



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[*] posted on 6-30-2017 at 07:18 AM


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[*] posted on 6-30-2017 at 08:16 AM


Quote: Originally posted by chuckie  
"WE" do? Is that the regal "we"?

[Edited on 6-30-2017 by chuckie]


LOL
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[*] posted on 6-30-2017 at 08:23 AM


Satire and Subtlety can go hand in hand at times.



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[*] posted on 6-30-2017 at 09:45 AM


Quote: Originally posted by norte  
This was a setup. I just read David's post. He and Kurt are best buds. This was just another attempt at attention. geeze.


Nope, I have met David once on our Mission Santa Maria trip. I got ill and he and Elizabeth were very helpful, the orange juice reference he made was because they gave me some ice cold OJ from their cooler which at that moment tasted like the elixir of the gods.

I am on the opposite end of the spectrum from David when it comes to politics, climate change, etc. Those subjects never came up around the campfire.

Last evening this thread got me thinking about the nomads I have met in person. Did a quick count and got up to 25 or so over the years. There isn't a one that I wouldn't enjoy spending more time with. Many are simply outstanding folk. We know the good work many do but there are others behind the scenes who don't seek any credit. Our political, social, and religious views may be different but in person that seems not to matter.

At the entrance of long time friends' house in Baja is a sign that says "Be Nice Or Go Home." I like that.

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[*] posted on 6-30-2017 at 10:00 AM


Quote: Originally posted by KurtG  
Quote: Originally posted by norte  
This was a setup. I just read David's post. He and Kurt are best buds. This was just another attempt at attention. geeze.


Nope, I have met David once on our Mission Santa Maria trip. I got ill and he and Elizabeth were very helpful, the orange juice reference he made was because they gave me some ice cold OJ from their cooler which at that moment tasted like the elixir of the gods.

I am on the opposite end of the spectrum from David when it comes to politics, climate change, etc. Those subjects never came up around the campfire.

Last evening this thread got me thinking about the nomads I have met in person. Did a quick count and got up to 25 or so over the years. There isn't a one that I wouldn't enjoy spending more time with. Many are simply outstanding folk. We know the good work many do but there are others behind the scenes who don't seek any credit. Our political, social, and religious views may be different but in person that seems not to matter.

At the entrance of long time friends' house in Baja is a sign that says "Be Nice Or Go Home." I like that.



Then why all the talk about "banning"? and Davids comment you knew who to get? Isn't that mean spirited enough? No I don't buy it. Like I said...it is time everyone look in the mirror.. now, enough...time for me to clean mine.
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[*] posted on 7-2-2017 at 05:30 AM


A lot of good points and I'll give a relative "newby" perspective. When I signed up for the forum, I almost immediately left because of all the negativity (perceived or not). Since a lot of people don't know who is who on here when they join, they don't know what is intended to be fun, joking, etc. between friends, etc.

If you want the forum to thrive with new people like myself, there needs to be some civility otherwise people won't come back or join in. Multiple view points are great.

I love reading about travels, explorers, places yet to be visited, suggestions, etc. The other stuff, not so much. I've never used the 'report' button and skip those posts that offend me, but it'd be nice to do away with them as they drive others away.
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[*] posted on 7-2-2017 at 06:19 AM


I think your intentions were noble..BUT to assume that your perception of others posts reflect that they "drive others away" and are "offensive, are the same as others is presumptive. You don't know that those things are true, or that all others share that view. Some do, some don't. Soldier on!



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[*] posted on 7-2-2017 at 07:13 AM


I have had the pleasure to spend time with Kurt on his visits here and I can say he is a kind gentleman and I get his point.

I get that people's politics are different as are their characters and healthy discussion of a topic is fine...but for goodness sakes....be nice(and respectful) or go home!!!

If you dont like someone's politics or posts...just dont look at them and dont be mean...simple as that. I am not one for censorship but if I were a moderator I would so jettison the meanies.




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[*] posted on 7-2-2017 at 07:19 AM


His post was way more right than wrong!
That stuff does drive new subscribers away rather than welcome them in.
Any list with as many curmudgeons on it as we have here will never get a large following because of "perceived" threats to posting.
Some of us are too old to see the forest for trees in the upcoming younger population. They don't want the coarse discourse or threat there of.




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[*] posted on 7-2-2017 at 07:49 AM



An unlikely weekend to be suggesting unbridled censorship.




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