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[*] posted on 8-7-2017 at 08:08 PM


Traffic was 'murder' today in Los Cabos, nothing else could possibly indicate the tragic event. No police road blocks, nada.

Just that traffic was insane today in Cabo San Lucas and not much better in San José del Cabo! I thought August was their slow season? ;)




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[*] posted on 8-7-2017 at 09:21 PM


You can read a change in nomad's posts, they are increasingly accepting of gun shots heard, neighborhood murders and of the failure of responsibility.

It's true that murders in Mexico are different from random USA murders, they are targeted, timed, demonstrative, the police are never there during the incident and always arrive 5-10 minutes later and then reporters too live broadcast to publicize the incident that is most often never resolved.

If you follow Mexico crime, it appears to be precisely orchestrated, unlike USA crime which is incidental. Something is very suspicious about the increasingly visible high crime in Baja, to the degree it is highly orchestrated, precise, public and never resolved. Most likely it is black ops, USA CIA run destabilization to both control contraband routes and to maintain a destabilizing force to reduce the power of people who object to the drug, money laundering, arms arm and overall corruption well documented under Obama n Holder's Merida funding of Fast n Furious and ATF Gunwalking.

Nomad's are clearly in denial of the massive threat of the USA's involvement in destabilization of Mexico and in particular of the destabilization of Baja where dead bodies line the roads and resorts while we go surfing and dune bugging???

How many shots do I have to hear each day and dead bodies to see before I change my idea about baja? Do I need to shoot back or what happens if do, then what? Why do I need to even be worried about massive arms, drugs, murders and dead bodies every day? Do we need to be bombing the middle east and destabilizing Latin America for profit? Why? who benefits, who funds, supports and allows the terror?


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[*] posted on 8-7-2017 at 09:30 PM


So, what happens in Chicago the past many years is not included in your stats?



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[*] posted on 8-7-2017 at 09:34 PM


Clearly the murders in Baja are highly orchestrated and well broadcasted and coordinated to the degree that it is not "gang" violence, it is precise military execution to cause political change not unlike any other effort the USA has made in the middleast. This is likely USA CIA military exercise run from top down to destabilize Mexico for profit.

As Nomads it's important to religiously deny the risk of USA involvement in mexico violence.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATF_gunwalking_scandal

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Gunrunner

http://www.latimes.com/nation/atf-fast-furious-sg-storygalle...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_CIA_drug_traffi...

http://www.disclose.tv/news/two_cia_agents_arrested_by_minut...

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2012/07/2012721152...

https://news.vice.com/article/drug-trafficking-meth-cocaine-...

http://anonhq.com/cia-jet-crashed-4-tons-cocaine-board/

https://wikispooks.com/wiki/2007_Yucatan_Gulfstream_drug_cra...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oszATUJ4IRE

https://www.counterpunch.org/2016/11/04/air-cocaine-the-wild...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/10/gary-webb-dark-alli...

https://www.corbettreport.com/the-cia-and-the-drug-trade/

http://www.nytimes.com/1993/12/03/opinion/03iht-edlarry.html

http://www.madcowprod.com/2012/08/09/investigation-arrest-4-...

http://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/racecar-drivers-don-and-bi...

http://nsarchive.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB2/index.html

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[*] posted on 8-7-2017 at 09:44 PM


The CIA is a for profit organization? What is it they are marketing?



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[*] posted on 8-7-2017 at 10:09 PM


Quote: Originally posted by David K  
The CIA is a for profit organization? What is it they are marketing? [/

Guns and drugs. Goes way back. Ever heard of Iran Contra? Profit centers include Guns and heavy weapons to various "insurgents" ie; Al Queda, ISIS, etc. who are necessary to carry on the endless wars in the Middle East and overthrow governments there. CIA has been connected to heroin out of Afghanistan, and of course Cocaine out of Columbia and Central America. There has been a lot of this information coming from retired CIA people. CIA budget is top secret here in the US.



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[*] posted on 8-8-2017 at 04:04 AM


CIA Budget for 2017 is 12.82 Billion, up a tick from 2016, but way down from 2012 at 15.33 Billion..



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[*] posted on 8-8-2017 at 12:00 PM


ATF ''lost'' 1,400 weapons (rifles, rocket launchers, anti-aircraft machine guns -- google Op Fast & Furious) to Mexico.

Wonder how many ''suppressors'' were lost. (Read most weapons went to sinaloa.)

Bet 2 of those weapons were used in BCS. Someone on Obama's watch dropped the ball.





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[*] posted on 8-8-2017 at 12:39 PM


I'm just wondering why Alex Jones, "Infowars," isn't also quoted?

Damn that evil deep state that is still smarting that Hillary Clinton, wasn't elected.

I'm been hearing this same stuff for years, and some of it is true like the CIA, trafficking drugs to pay for their secret operations, but other claims you hear, can't be proven, no matter how many links you put up.

Did you hear the one about "Plan Mexico?" Where money isn't only provided to Mexico, to fight the drug cartels, but to keep the natives in line if they get restless. It's just another half-truth, that's impossible to prove.

My personal feelings is the people in power, and the deep state, aren't smart enough to pull off half the things the links claim below.

It's just mostly pure chaos, and reacting to the chaos.

"Fast and Furious," if you ask me, it had good intentions that ran amok, and should have been shut down after the first week in operation.

For years, we know most of the weapons, used by the Mexican cartels, were coming from US gun dealers, but the GOP, tea-party, and ultra conservatives in the US, were denying that claim. Oh no, they said, the guns were coming from Russia, China, and other Latin America countries, but not the USA.

At the very least "Fast and Furious" proved what most of us knew all along, that most of the heavy duty weapons, used by the Mexican drug cartels, were coming from close by gun happy America.

So the USA has an insatiable appetite for illegal drugs, and the USA provides most of the weapons used by the Mexican drug cartels, and the US and it's American citizens, have the nerve to point fingers at Mexico, to clean up it's act!


Quote: Originally posted by gnukid  
Clearly the murders in Baja are highly orchestrated and well broadcasted and coordinated to the degree that it is not "gang" violence, it is precise military execution to cause political change not unlike any other effort the USA has made in the middleast. This is likely USA CIA military exercise run from top down to destabilize Mexico for profit.

As Nomads it's important to religiously deny the risk of USA involvement in mexico violence.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATF_gunwalking_scandal

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Gunrunner

http://www.latimes.com/nation/atf-fast-furious-sg-storygalle...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_CIA_drug_traffi...

http://www.disclose.tv/news/two_cia_agents_arrested_by_minut...

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2012/07/2012721152...

https://news.vice.com/article/drug-trafficking-meth-cocaine-...

http://anonhq.com/cia-jet-crashed-4-tons-cocaine-board/

https://wikispooks.com/wiki/2007_Yucatan_Gulfstream_drug_cra...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oszATUJ4IRE

https://www.counterpunch.org/2016/11/04/air-cocaine-the-wild...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/10/gary-webb-dark-alli...

https://www.corbettreport.com/the-cia-and-the-drug-trade/

http://www.nytimes.com/1993/12/03/opinion/03iht-edlarry.html

http://www.madcowprod.com/2012/08/09/investigation-arrest-4-...

http://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/racecar-drivers-don-and-bi...

http://nsarchive.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB2/index.html

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[*] posted on 8-8-2017 at 02:55 PM


Yeah! Anyway! Wassa mattuh wid you...



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[*] posted on 8-8-2017 at 03:00 PM


Quote: Originally posted by chuckie  
Yeah! Anyway! Wassa mattuh wid you...


You mean,

Wassa mattuh for you?

please speak correctly




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[*] posted on 8-8-2017 at 03:04 PM


That's what I meant, tipografical error..



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[*] posted on 8-8-2017 at 03:11 PM


Ahem, whatsa matta you?



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[*] posted on 8-8-2017 at 03:13 PM


My "goombah" slipped...



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[*] posted on 8-8-2017 at 03:26 PM


Quote: Originally posted by David K  
The CIA is a for profit organization? What is it they are marketing?


As said....watch this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oszATUJ4IRE




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[*] posted on 8-8-2017 at 03:30 PM


Well, he's not a Canadian, like you, sweetheart...I LOVE you baby..Why are you all of sudden on this racist kick?...???



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Quote: Originally posted by chuckie  
Well, he's not a Canadian, like you, sweetheart...I LOVE you baby..Why are you all of sudden on this racist kick?...???


Not all of a sudden...I realized it was just wrong when I was six years old...and have challenged others on it on BN whenever I saw/see it :saint:




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[*] posted on 8-9-2017 at 08:37 AM


So once more sicarios, minors, toting high power weapons, driving in cars without license plates and with dark polarized windows drove through the corridor, into the entrance to Palmira, parked, walked through the walkways to shoot multiple people while being filmed from various directions, then walked back to the car and exited Palmira and the corridor all the while never identified or apprehended.

If anyone believes that is possible without the 100% cooperation and complicity of a large number of security forces then your are in serious denial.

One vehicle parked in the road or entrance could have stopped them. One police officer could have disabled the vehicle and stopped them.

It's absolutely apparent that there is broad cooperation both locally and nationally to coordinate and allow these incidents.

One the one hand they could be faked, that is the bodies are staged with gory makeup or dummies to create fear or it could be real to create fear. Either way this is way too organized to be random and gang cartel only, it is highly organized and coordinated top down, with highly trained and coordinated activity.
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[*] posted on 8-9-2017 at 08:51 AM


Quote: Originally posted by gnukid  


It's absolutely apparent that there is broad cooperation both locally and nationally to coordinate and allow these incidents.



Plata o plomo? Silver or lead?

If you were offered the deal to either cooperate and take some money or we'll kill you and your family, what would you do?





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[*] posted on 8-9-2017 at 09:11 AM


When a hurricane is coming you have multiple choices. When a dam breaks you have choices. When confronted to cooperate or we kill you you have choices.

People have always had the option to leave. move away, you don't need to stay in a flood zone and lament the flood or sit in your flooded house and cry. You can simply get up and go, there is no need to cooperate and to do so will certain bring a shortened life and one that is not worth living.

First off, never engage in any way with people who have compromised ethics and morals and that includes most politicians, cartel gang members and any secretive military forces.

Point is this should be obvious. USA and Mexico are compromised in a big way by secretive military and political forces and it is obvious up close or at a distance. IF people didn't cooperate the whole mess would be be done, but far too many justify cooperating as a way of life-not worth living.

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