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[*] posted on 8-21-2017 at 12:17 PM
Late Aug. 2017 Seiner - Busted? ~ NOT!


Yesterday I noticed the 1st seiner of the summer off the mouth of Bahia Concepcion. It appeared to be a shrimper but the doors on the out riggers weren't normal and it was dragging during the day. Last night it appeared to be anchored up but again this morning it was back dragging in front of the bay. About 11 am I looked and it seemed to be much large and had a pointy bow. Turned out it was a large navy boat tied up to it. I've been watching and it appears that the Navy is really doing an enforcement check. An hour or more later the Navy just hauled ass away and the seiner is now heading out. Hope to hear what this was all about. These photos are poor because they're probably at least 5 miles out or so and my zoom lens isn't top of the line.
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Look at the doors hanging from the out riggers. Some kind of weird design

Navy along side with the bow out in front of the seiner.

Navy closing in from behind

Navy closing in from the front

Navy leaving. Headed towards Santa Rosalia while the seiner is heading East.




[Edited on 8-22-2017 by Russ]




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[*] posted on 8-21-2017 at 06:28 PM


Ugh....
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[*] posted on 8-21-2017 at 08:53 PM


NOT GOOD they didn't get busted... now if ONLY local "fishing guides" (local "favorite" captains) would STOP ABETTING these heinous predators maybe some good would come out of this "effort" by the Navy... some of these local "captains" help them do repairs, get supplies and even purchase shrimp to sale around the bay... SAD .. very sad...

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[*] posted on 8-22-2017 at 06:07 AM


What ever happened must not have been too serious because the Trawler it back. I noticed his lights last night and now see him on the horizon headed this way.
8 am 7/22 ~ He's dragging again just outside the bay again. I'm guessing that the Navy was just on a supply run now.

[Edited on 8-22-2017 by Russ]




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[*] posted on 8-22-2017 at 09:01 AM


Russ, you are exactly right, it was indeed a supply run. The Mexican navy will frequently offload a seiner's shipment of cocaine, marijuana, and crystal meth. The cartel leaders pay lucrative sums to high ranking Mexican officials to allow and protect these shipments.

This is nothing new, it's been going on for decades and has become the Mexican way of life.
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[*] posted on 8-22-2017 at 09:42 AM


I am sure this is a fact, since it was on the internet..Watch those toads, they will give you warts...
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[*] posted on 8-22-2017 at 10:08 AM


I really think these guys are just your everyday SOC rapiers of the resources. Haven't seen any large bait balls in a few weeks to speak of. If this guy was doing well there'd be more of them.




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[*] posted on 8-23-2017 at 10:37 AM


Maybe the proper payment was made?
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[*] posted on 8-23-2017 at 12:00 PM


Quote: Originally posted by Russ  
I really think these guys are just your everyday SOC rapiers of the resources. Haven't seen any large bait balls in a few weeks to speak of. If this guy was doing well there'd be more of them.


trawling with outriggers, looks like it is trawling for shrimp. why don't you fisherpeople drive by and ask what they're fishin' for? maybe you can buy some fresh shrimp for dinner, eh?
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[*] posted on 8-23-2017 at 12:12 PM


Too simple..
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[*] posted on 8-23-2017 at 01:22 PM


No one here going out.... simple



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[*] posted on 8-23-2017 at 01:37 PM


Simpler yet..But usually they are looking for Mackeral, sardines and such there...what we call "Bait"...
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[*] posted on 8-23-2017 at 01:49 PM


Quote: Originally posted by ehall  
Maybe the proper payment was made?


Maybe Mexico is deregulating commercial fishing.

It's good for business and will create jobs.:rolleyes:



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[*] posted on 8-23-2017 at 02:34 PM


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[*] posted on 8-23-2017 at 02:47 PM


Chuckie, they are dragging not wrapping a net around fish. Probably just getting anything/everything off the bottom.

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[*] posted on 8-24-2017 at 07:04 PM


My guess is that the Navy is more interested in searching seiners holds for illegal contraband, rather than checking to see if they comply with fishing regs.

And, yes, there are probably cases of Navy vessels being involved in the drug trade. But I bet it is very rare these days. Not so much, 20 years ago.
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[*] posted on 8-31-2017 at 10:50 AM


I saw the same navy boat back in May, same area - twice I saw it chase one of the bait or shrimp boats (don't know which) but before it even got close it would turn around and scream back where it came from with no action.
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