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[*] posted on 8-25-2017 at 02:30 PM


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Interesting topic, as legends are always defined by ones own standards......and then there are those that are legends in their own mind.




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[*] posted on 8-25-2017 at 02:46 PM


Not a legend, but whatever happened to FlyFishingPam who use to post on here all the time?
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[*] posted on 8-25-2017 at 02:54 PM


JZ..thanks for the lead in...Being a newbie here...let's add Nomad legends, which a few have already. Will be impossible for us that have not met any yet...and might add fuel to the fire of who is a legend...but let me ask this...Who was the first Nomad? When was "Baja Nomad" started? And sadly sounds like a lot of good ones have crossed over to the other side or just dont post. To each their own..Thanks for letting newbies be a part of this...Chow.
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[*] posted on 8-25-2017 at 03:14 PM


Well, to 'meet', would be (to me) to at least talk with a person, introduce yourself, etc.

I am no legend and many of the Baja authors already mentioned would just say they were pursuing their passion, driven by the magic that is Baja California.

The authors of Baja books inspired me to write about Baja, and so I have.

Here is a partial list of Baja authors I have met in person and exchanged words with and usually got an autograph from or even formed friendships with, legends and heroes to me:

Howard Gulick (Lower California Guidebook)
Ray Cannon (The Sea of Cortez)
Mike McMahan (There It Is: Baja!, + wall maps of Baja)
Tom Miller (The Baja Book)
Choral Pepper (Baja California: Vanished Missions, Lost Treasure, Strange Stories Tall and True)
Marvin Patchen (Baja Adventures by Land/Air/Sea)
Graham Mackintosh* (Into a Desert Place, & 3 more)
Greg Niemann* (Baja Fever, Baja Legends)
Herman Hill (Baja's Hidden Gold)
Baja Bernie* (Mi Baja, No Hurry, No Worry and more)
Ann O'Neil (Loreto, Baja California, First Mission and Capital of California)
Ed Vernon (Las Misiones Antiguas, A Maritam History of Baja California)
Harry Crosby (The Kings Highway in Baja California & others)
Robert Jackson* (Missions and the Frontiers of Spanish Americ, and more)
Francis Weber (The Peninsular California Missions, The Missions & Missionaries of Baja California)
Dave Werschkul (Saints and Demons in a Desert Wilderness)
David Brackney (The Auto Club Baja Travel Guide)

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Well known Off Road Racers I have met & spoken with, include:

Mickey Thompson
Walker Evans
Roger Mears*
Cameron Steele
Ivan Stewart

I was next to Parnelli Jones and he said to me, "just warming up the tires" when he drove in from pre-running the first miles of the 1973 Baja 1000, the day before the race. Others, too...

Baja Personalities (some):

Mama Espinoza
The Clam Man
Coco
Papa Diaz
Walt Hussong (great grandson)
Dick Daggett

There were others, like Don Johnson, Papa Fernadez, etc. but I was with my folks and didn't talk directly with them.


If I think of others, I will edit in... this is just off the top of my head.

[Edited on 8-27-2017 by David K]




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[*] posted on 8-25-2017 at 03:18 PM


Quote: Originally posted by rancho guillermo  
JZ..thanks for the lead in...Being a newbie here...let's add Nomad legends, which a few have already. Will be impossible for us that have not met any yet...and might add fuel to the fire of who is a legend...but let me ask this...Who was the first Nomad? When was "Baja Nomad" started? And sadly sounds like a lot of good ones have crossed over to the other side or just dont post. To each their own..Thanks for letting newbies be a part of this...Chow.


Doug Means is the founder and is 'BajaNomad' here. I am the oldest active Nomad following Doug... it was in 2002. The week Doug started this forum, about 8 others joined before I got home to sign up when Doug told me it was ready. but I think only one posted before vanishing? You can see three versions of the member list here, just click Member List... it's at the top.




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[*] posted on 8-25-2017 at 03:46 PM


Thanks David....
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[*] posted on 8-25-2017 at 04:34 PM


Quote: Originally posted by rancho guillermo  
Who was the first Nomad? When was "Baja Nomad" started? And sadly sounds like a lot of good ones have crossed over to the other side or just dont post. To each their own..Thanks for letting newbies be a part of this...Chow.


Just found this post from Oct 3, 2002:





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[*] posted on 8-25-2017 at 04:44 PM


I'm sure everyone knows the joke "Do I know Pancho Villa, why we had lunch together".
I "met" most of the Baja off road racers listed on this forum during the mid 80's in various Nevada races. That is they rammed me, pushed me or politely honked the passing horn. That kinda counts as meeting, right?
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[*] posted on 8-25-2017 at 06:25 PM


would be cool to meet Roger..Pompano he's gotta be a Baja legend



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[*] posted on 8-25-2017 at 06:35 PM






[Edited on 8-26-2017 by LaTijereta]




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[*] posted on 8-25-2017 at 09:11 PM
Jack Smith "God and Mr. Gomez"


And other books about Baja

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Smith_(columnist)
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[*] posted on 8-25-2017 at 09:19 PM
Fred Hoctor


Author of Baja Haha and many, many articles for Western Outdoor magazine.

http://www.mexfish.com/enad/enad/af010908/af010908.htm

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[*] posted on 8-25-2017 at 09:32 PM


You met them?
Nice!
Paulina knew Fred...




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[*] posted on 8-25-2017 at 09:36 PM
Last But Not Least, Erle Stanley Gardner


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erle_Stanley_Gardner

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[*] posted on 8-25-2017 at 09:51 PM
Hi David, Yes I Met Fred


At his home in Punta Banda in 1983. He was a wonderful host and so entertaining.

I was invited to Jack Smith's home on Mt. Washington in L.A. and he was gracious, but very reserved; there were many people in his house and he was happy to retreat to his library and talk about Baja to a young novice.

I met Erle Stanley Gardner at my father's house in Ojai, CA and it was like meeting Hemingway.

[Edited on 8-26-2017 by GypsyJan]
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[*] posted on 8-25-2017 at 10:16 PM


Mama Espinosa- met first of many times after before hwy 1 completed
Don Johnson- Many encounters in trips to Mulege for years
Roger "Pompano"- Encounters around Mulege and Conception Bay
Bill Alvarado- When he ran the hotel at Chivato
Lou Federico- Builder of Hotel Mulege and Chivato hotel met at Sirenidad on one of his few trips down after leaving Baja.
Diaz Family- Flying into BofLA before new airport was built.
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[*] posted on 8-26-2017 at 03:31 AM


Quote: Originally posted by GypsyJan  
At his home in Punta Banda in 1983. He was a wonderful host and so entertaining.

I was invited to Jack Smith's home on Mt. Washington in L.A. and he was gracious, but very reserved; there were many people in his house and he was happy to retreat to his library and talk about Baja to a young novice.

I met Erle Stanley Gardner at my father's house in Ojai, CA and it was like meeting Hemingway.

[Edited on 8-26-2017 by GypsyJan]


Very cool.
My parents and I drove to Temecula (~1967) in hopes of meeting him and buying one of his J.W. Black custom scooters (a Pak-Jak or a Burrito). His secretary, Jean Bethell (married her at some point) was there and said we just missed Erle as he had left for Baja!

My mom and dad were great at pushing me into the Baja way of life and never stopped encouraging me to explore, draw maps, go camping, all as soon as I could drive... Baja was my 'recreational drug'!



My Baja legends... on maybe our final Baja camping trip for the three of us, near Punta Final, 1983... champagne, of course!




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[*] posted on 8-26-2017 at 07:15 AM


Quote: Originally posted by David K  
You met them?
Nice!
Paulina knew Fred...


I think Fred designed that little fishy doodad she uses on her signature.




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Great photo Marc!



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