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[*] posted on 10-27-2017 at 06:46 AM
Baja mines


Most counties in Arizona have a list of mines and their locations by lat and Lon that go back to the 1800’s. A lot of mine roads where of a very temporary construction and may have disappeared years ago but can be seen on Google Earth.
I have been using this method to find new places to off-road to here in Mohave County and have had some pretty cool adventures.
Does anyone know if such a mine register exists in Baja?
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[*] posted on 10-27-2017 at 07:16 AM


I came across a list of Baja mines some time back with the coordinates. I'll do some digging to find it again. I'm in Baja now so it may have to wait till I get home. I did notice that the coordinates were not very accuate at least on the mines I was interested in. Close but not spot on.
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[*] posted on 10-27-2017 at 08:49 AM


Books that tell about many mines in Baja include:

the Lower California Guidebook by Gerhard & Gulick (1956-1970 editions & printings) or its replacement the Baja California Guidebook by Wheelock & Gulick (1975, 1980 editions).

The Baja Adventure Book by Walt Peterson (1987-1998 editions).

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[*] posted on 10-27-2017 at 09:44 AM
A few mines photographed...


North to south...

El Promontorio (Sulfur), south of Mexicali:


San Antonio del Mar (Titanium), north of San Quintin:


El Apache (Sulfur), south of San Felipe:



San Fernando (Copper), southeast of El Rosario:


La Olividada (Barite), east of El Mármol:


El Mármol (Onyx), east of El Rosario:


La Turquesa Canyon (Turquoise), south of Gonzaga Bay:


El Toro (Copper), near L.A. Bay:


Pozo Aleman (Gold), near El Arco:


Santa Rosalia (Copper, Manganese)


El Triunfo (Silver), south of La Paz:


There are also related mining locations, where ore was processed some distance from the mine, such as Las Flores, Las Arrastras, and Molino de Lacy.







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[*] posted on 10-27-2017 at 10:27 AM


Great question. I'm also interested.
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[*] posted on 10-27-2017 at 11:16 AM


Thanks DK for the posting the pictures. I have been to a few of them and always like to explore the areas around mines. It is astounding to me how they transported the machinery they had to some of the places they mined, tough determined old fellers!!!!
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[*] posted on 10-27-2017 at 11:35 AM


I am interested in exploring some (more) of the old mining areas too. I have done some fairly extensive research on the subject. I'm sure Mexico has a registry of surveyed mining claims in some government office but of course, it would all be in Spanish. However I don't know of any publication in English that lists mine locations with coordinates. In that vein (pun intended) TMW if you can find that list I would also be mucho interested in having a look and sharing information. Maybe some nomads would like to get together and search out some of the old mines?
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[*] posted on 10-27-2017 at 11:50 AM


Quote: Originally posted by bajaric  
I am interested in exploring some (more) of the old mining areas too. I have done some fairly extensive research on the subject. I'm sure Mexico has a registry of surveyed mining claims in some government office but of course, it would all be in Spanish. However I don't know of any publication in English that lists mine locations with coordinates. In that vein (pun intended) TMW if you can find that list I would also be mucho interested in having a look and sharing information. Maybe some nomads would like to get together and search out some of the old mines?


If your interest is traveling in mexico, and your trip-research material is written in spanish, then perhaps you should try learning spanish, eh?

anyhow, if you want to find old mines and prospects, go to INEGI and other mex govt websites and peruse the online mineralogy and geologic maps -- many govt geo maps are available online. many prospects/mines are mapped.
sorry, you'll have to do the work of reading spanish, and consulting a dictionary or online translator :light:





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[*] posted on 10-27-2017 at 11:51 AM


I'll add some photos of Pozo Aleman. Very cool place.

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[*] posted on 10-27-2017 at 11:56 AM


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[*] posted on 10-27-2017 at 12:17 PM


El Boleo, c. 1911

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[*] posted on 10-27-2017 at 12:49 PM


Years ago,when things were less formal, I was allowed to browse through ledgers and journals at the museum at the Boleo mine. Then it had some "stuff" in an office on the mesa. Not very organized but friendly.There were several formatted journals with what were clearly mine and prospective mine locations in Baja both North and South. Notations were in French, Spanish and a few in English. Where they are now is anyones guess....



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[*] posted on 10-27-2017 at 12:56 PM


Wow. What a cool opportunity.
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[*] posted on 10-27-2017 at 01:06 PM


Ahh but Mr Goat, who says I don't read Spanish? I do, just not very well, trying to decipher the INEGI map system is not my idea of a good time, but I could do it and have looked at some of the web sites you referenced. Besides, a lot of source material is written in English. Most of the book "Modest Fortunes" was sourced from newspaper accounts in California as many of the miners were Americanos -- Also DK Pozo Aleman was not a "mine" it was a "mining town". The mines were located nearby. Who wants to go look for them!
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[*] posted on 10-27-2017 at 03:02 PM


https://s1.postimg.org/5dp01fkyrz/107-0741_IMG.jpg

A mine near Pozo Aleman (Calmalli) from inside. Trying to post without Photobucket.
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[*] posted on 10-27-2017 at 03:04 PM


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Crude sluice found near a mine...

[Edited on 27-10-2017 by Jack Swords]
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Drywasher found near mine.
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[*] posted on 10-27-2017 at 03:17 PM


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Rocker used for mining to separate gold from overburden.

Lots of mining stuff is found in Baja Sur still, in old mines and machinery is on the surface. I have found most landowners to be agreeable, but a couple of areas under active mining were guarded and would not allow us to look or take photos. Also some of the very old Spanish silver operations are still accessible, but require some hiking. Mines, hornos, settling ponds and other debris are out there.
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[*] posted on 10-27-2017 at 03:21 PM


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A deeper mine in Baja Sur. Have encountered some poisonous gas in some of the deeper mines in Baja, not this one.
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[*] posted on 10-27-2017 at 03:40 PM


Was in a very rich silver mine in White Hills Arizona where you could still see black spots where the miners would hold the flame from their carbide headlamp to the rock walls to see if the silver would melt out. If no silver ran out they didn’t dig there, pretty good mines till they played out.
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