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[*] posted on 11-13-2017 at 05:29 PM
Making Custom Maps 101: How can I?


Hi guys, I am just experimenting with different ways to make maps and different maps to use. Seems tough to get a map to show only what you want and not a lot of extra stuff and not a lot of erroneous detail, such as incorrect place names, etc.

In 1974, Tom Miller used the early NASA satellite black and white images to custom make roadmaps for his 'The Baja Book' guidebook series. While his placement of the roads wasn't always spot on, it served his need.

If you guys don't mind to indulge me with this project, I am going to see if I can use available computer editing and see if it works well enough to be of use in a possible guide. Feedback welcome!

I may not get very far with any of these, but maybe one of you has a good idea you would care to share! Yes, I have been suggested to use Google Maps. Maybe I am slow to figure it out, but there are many layers to those maps I don't want to clutter up what I want to show... basically the main roads plus side trips I am featuring in the new guide. Plus, I would want to add or change names on their map.

I think I will test on the part of Baja I have spent most of my years camping and exploring around, San Felipe to Puertecitos and inland to the San Pedro Mártir.

I have done the first three steps...

Step 1: Capture satellite image
Step 2: Crop and enhance
Step 3: Add (some) place names

Next, I need to figure how to add road lines and other symbols (campos, ranchos, mines, peaks, etc.).

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Note: I already see that the map doesn't include enough of Valle Chico to show the Sierra canyons, plus the text font is too big. As I said, this is a test! Thank you!!




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[*] posted on 11-13-2017 at 06:36 PM


David what you want to do do is what we all do with our GPS mapping stuff.
Garmin has free maps for the world. Download an install on your device, phone, tablet, GPS, etc. Then add the custom details you want/need. Maps can be even can be installed on your pc to allow picking and choosing specific required areas of interest. Lots of education and time is required to get up to speed.
There are also pay for maps that probably are even better than the free ones. A starting place would be "Open street maps".
You need a collection of Garmin software to do all this. "Mapsource", "Basecamp" and others specific to the map you choose and the device you are using to create the detail.

My fastest way would is to load GPS tracks onto GE the make a screen shot and use "Paint" to add text and symbols. Pretty crude but functional. Get your GPS tracks from Your Inreach tracks and edit them to get rid of the straight lines. I use "Trackmaker" for that task.
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[*] posted on 11-13-2017 at 08:56 PM


This is to do on my desktop, not any mobile device. Thank you for any help!



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[*] posted on 11-13-2017 at 09:03 PM


GE can do basics. But poor graphic choices, cant adjust fonts.
Suggest you also consider QGIS (free open source) or ArcMap (ESRI $$).
Whatever you do, you will probably want to output graphics from GIS program, then edit in a graphics program like adobe Illustrator.




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[*] posted on 11-13-2017 at 11:51 PM


Fiverr bud. Don't try to do it on your own. Get an idea of what you want. Maybe even reach out to a local designer to get their ideas.

Then farm it out. The amount of talent on Fiverr is unbelievable and super cheap.

Anything you want. Voice over, video editing, photo editing, graphic design, copy writing, you name it.

A professional will do much better work then you can and faster. You need to be the expert, project owner, review the work. Let the guy in India be the graphics talent.

https://www.fiverr.com/


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[*] posted on 11-14-2017 at 07:49 AM


Quote: Originally posted by David K  
This is to do on my desktop, not any mobile device. Thank you for any help!

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All the things I mentioned can be done an a pc. The software mentioned are for a PC.
GE can result in some pretty good maps if you can fine a good editing software. "paint" is just my way. For sure GE alone wont cut it.
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[*] posted on 11-14-2017 at 09:13 AM


Thanks Paul and Goat for some input I will explore.

I guess that issue is I want to do this soon without having to take a 'college course' first (lol). Maybe I am just feeling worn out after 20,000 miles driving all over Baja this year!?

You see the space map I was able to make easily above (using Flash Earth and Photobucket)? Flash Earth might be better than Google Earth for me because there isn't already stuff added in?

Well, the next step is adding a line or parallel lines to show roads. Maybe in Paint? I will try!

JZ, this is something that I want to produce and not farm out to India, but thank you still!

I greatly appreciate constructive suggestions and your patience with me as I feel a bit maxed out! ;)




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[*] posted on 11-14-2017 at 09:24 AM


Sometimes easy is not the best way. Especially if you want to build a guide that is marketable. Maybe you should take the suggestion to outsource it.


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[*] posted on 11-14-2017 at 09:55 AM


That will be up to the publisher. I was just hoping to create something a level up from hand drawn, which I have done for most of my life...

Some of the best or more user-friendly Baja maps were hand-drawn, from before the computer age:

1962 Gulick Maps:


1970 Cross Maps:
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1982 'David K' Maps:





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[*] posted on 11-14-2017 at 10:00 AM


It's not just India, ppl from all over the world, including the US.

End result would be much better.
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[*] posted on 11-14-2017 at 10:40 AM


Thank you.



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[*] posted on 11-14-2017 at 06:33 PM


I use QGIS, there's a plugin that lets you use GE, Bing, USGS, NASA and other satellite based imagery as background.



I usually create my routes on GE or download from my gps my tracks and waypoints, then import to QGIS all the stuff to create my maps.

It has a its own map designer to print or export in any commercial format, you can add almost any feature you may need on the map, and you can edit almost anything.

I've found it very useful, even more than ArcMap, which by the way, it's not available anymore.

Another bonus, its that there's available (usually for free) almost any information you may need, from power lines, soil types, vegetation, roads, geological, hydrological, and many many more.
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[*] posted on 11-14-2017 at 06:58 PM


Thank you Archie.
I actually want very simple data to appear on the map. Readers can use it to see the relative positions of points to each other. The road log has plenty of detail.
I will search for QGIS!
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[*] posted on 11-14-2017 at 07:46 PM


Cool :D

Any GIS software can be a bit overwhelming, if you don't need that much power, then GE can be your best bet.

I guess you already know how to edit a track or route, and how to change the icon for the waypoints.

In GE Pro you can create a custom map for printing or export, it will display only the layers you have selected.

If you want to give it a try, go to File, then Save as and select Save image, you'll have something like this:



In the box on the upper right that says "Legend", you can click on it and edit the names of the features displayed on the map.

Its way more simple than a GIS map, you can select if you want to have a only a scale bar, the compass, the box with the features of the selected layers and a box with an editable title and description.



Goat was correct in terms of that you can't edit some things, like the font, but you can change the color and the size. Also you can select the resolution of your map.



I have some files with most of the data (roads, towns, POI) of Baja California and Baja Sur, if you need something very specific, just ask.

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[*] posted on 11-14-2017 at 08:02 PM
"...if you need something very specific, just ask."


David, that is usually your line! I think you have found a new best friend!

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[*] posted on 11-15-2017 at 08:12 AM


Thanks AK, having Baja Nomad friends is a good thing!
Archie, I am following your steps, but when I click on the Legend box, a pencil image appears and a blank, edit box pops up down on the map. There is no list of items to edit, as your image shows?
Perhaps we can take this to email or u2u?




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