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[*] posted on 12-5-2017 at 09:18 PM
Beach camping spots good for day sailing


Hi All,

Thanks for checking out my post here.
So we are sailors and plan to come on down via large suv. We have an 18' sailing kayak. We are still trying to sort out how to bring it down. We have car topped it before, it's a pain to get off and on but doing it once a week would probably be ok. Otherwise tow it on a basic trailer or buy a popup tent camper and tow it on that.

It's a tandem kayak and also be a sailing trimaran, we mainly sail it. Since I first saw one I wanted to take her beach camping in Baja. It looks like we can swing 4-6weeks in March and April.

Where would you go?
Wetsuit needed then?
Want to have decent wind and snorkeling and maybe overnight or two on nearby islands. Concepcion and Loreto is the plan but details on where and why are much appreciated.

The rig, so far, is a Yukon suv, 2wd. Going to post a thread on those options next.

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[*] posted on 12-5-2017 at 10:29 PM


Bahia de Los Angeles also. Consider Bahia San Juanico about 25 miles above Loreto. Beautiful bay.

I wouldn't tow anything unless you had to. Put it on top.


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[*] posted on 12-6-2017 at 08:30 AM


Sounds like a hobie adventure.
I have been eyeing those.
Depends on the weather when you get there. I usually avoid the wind because it kills the fishing.
Last spring there was lots of wind around La Paz and Los Barriles where the kite boarders were going nuts.
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[*] posted on 12-6-2017 at 09:08 AM


Quote: Originally posted by Sailorv  
Hi All,

Thanks for checking out my post here.
So we are sailors and plan to come on down via large suv. We have an 18' sailing kayak. We are still trying to sort out how to bring it down. We have car topped it before, it's a pain to get off and on but doing it once a week would probably be ok. Otherwise tow it on a basic trailer or buy a popup tent camper and tow it on that.

It's a tandem kayak and also be a sailing trimaran, we mainly sail it. Since I first saw one I wanted to take her beach camping in Baja. It looks like we can swing 4-6weeks in March and April.

Where would you go?
Wetsuit needed then?
Want to have decent wind and snorkeling and maybe overnight or two on nearby islands. Concepcion and Loreto is the plan but details on where and why are much appreciated.

The rig, so far, is a Yukon suv, 2wd. Going to post a thread on those options next.

TY, Sailorv


Bahia de Los Angeles would be a good area.
Winds can be quite strong March and April. Be skilled at reefing, high winds, etc. and practice your beach landings in tall waves.




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[*] posted on 12-6-2017 at 09:13 AM


Thanks JZ. I just am not sure we will have time for BhLA. If we get down there and I start feeling 4 wks is definitely the max (because we're tent camping only) I know we don't want to put the boat on and off the room because it's such a chore. Are you suggesting it because it is more likely to have breeze than bhC or Loreto?

Tobias, yep Hobie Tandem Island :D
20 kt wind, gusts higher of course, are doable and, for me at least, are a blast unlike keelboats. It's like you're flying your own personal rocket ship, tyfighter, over the waves. SOC has been my number 2 destination I wanna take her to, so I really want to make this happen.
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[*] posted on 12-6-2017 at 11:52 AM


Concepcion and Loreto and Bahia de Los Angeles and Bahia San Juanico
I have not done the camping on the beach but have sail all four of the above. I would pick Concepction as number one. It is protected and lots to explore, Land and Water. If I was doing 4 weeks I would add one of the other ones to the trip, as they are all good. I would probably pick San Juanico , but would have to check on the road to get there. BLA and Loreto have island off them that are good to explore.
Go to google and look at satellite view of each area.
I think 17 feet is the limit for bring down a boat with no paper work, I think you may need a Import permit for the boat. Someone correct me if I am wrong.
I wore a 2 and 3 mil dive suit when swimming, I hate cold.
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[*] posted on 12-6-2017 at 12:43 PM


Anything over 15’ requires a permit.



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[*] posted on 12-8-2017 at 06:56 AM


i would have a hard time imagining any official questioning a car top kayak requiring a TIP.
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[*] posted on 12-8-2017 at 08:41 AM


Quote: Originally posted by pacificobob  
i would have a hard time imagining any official questioning a car top kayak requiring a TIP.


My thought as well. It becomes an issue when you go to put a boat in a marina. They want to see the TIP and your insurance before renting you a slip.


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[*] posted on 12-8-2017 at 02:44 PM


Here now and many times w/ 17ft and 21 ft sea kayaks, no TIPs. Skip marinas, they will gouge you. Beach launch.
Cartop if possible, small kayak trailers are junk- not up to Baja.
Did not see timing you propose? Now into winter w/ el Nortes, much more wind than you want, & steep seas.
Get forecasts, which have to be adjusted for landform effects. Start w/ protected waters.
Forcasts:
Sonrisanet.org
and
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/experimental/epoffshores/data/WRKOFF...

Be careful. Dress for the water. Bring handheld VHF in Aquapac case, know its limitations. Tell somone reliable your float plan.
Watch gap offshore winds esp. in Bla, Gonzaga etc. Be prepared to stay on an island if it gets ugly.
Cheers, J

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[*] posted on 2-28-2018 at 12:20 AM


Hi Again,

Well I am back on now that I feel we are getting closer to becoming Baja Nomads. Yessss! We have bought and after a month of work a conversion van for our adventures, next up small trailer for the boat.

March-April plans are not looking good, I need to help take care of my mom after multiple surgeries and then we are entering summer. Neither of us are looking for heat stroke
So I guess it is.looking more like October, Nov or Dec?

We need about 6 knots to sail and can go out in gusts up to 30 or so. We are experienced sailors who like to have fun but are prudent and safe.

So when, why and where would you go during those months if you were us?

Many thanks,
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[*] posted on 2-28-2018 at 09:17 AM


Pick up a copy of this book. Out of print but has good information for boating in Baja and more - https://www.amazon.com/Baja-Adventure-Book-Walt-Peterson/dp/...



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[*] posted on 2-28-2018 at 01:47 PM


In my checkout now, thank you!

In you have not heard of it, I have one for you
Sea of Cortez: A Cruiser's Guidebook

Quote: Originally posted by Three2tango  
Pick up a copy of this book. Out of print but has good information for boating in Baja and more - https://www.amazon.com/Baja-Adventure-Book-Walt-Peterson/dp/...
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[*] posted on 2-28-2018 at 01:58 PM


Quote: Originally posted by Three2tango  
Pick up a copy of this book. Out of print but has good information for boating in Baja and more - https://www.amazon.com/Baja-Adventure-Book-Walt-Peterson/dp/...


Here's another, newer book... and the author even joined Baja Nomad:
http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=32857


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[*] posted on 2-28-2018 at 04:43 PM


Quote: Originally posted by Sailorv  
In my checkout now, thank you!

In you have not heard of it, I have one for you
Sea of Cortez: A Cruiser's Guidebook

Quote: Originally posted by Three2tango  
Pick up a copy of this book. Out of print but has good information for boating in Baja and more - https://www.amazon.com/Baja-Adventure-Book-Walt-Peterson/dp/...


Thanks. I had that guide too. We owned a couple of sailboats in LA and would dream about cruising the Sea of Cortez. We ended up cruising with my father in law in the NW Caribean on a few adventures in Mexico, Belize and Guatemala. Unfortunately, my wife developed pretty bad sickness offshore and her Dad had to sell his boat after back surgery. Our boat looks like this now -


[img]DSC02703 by ssichler, on Flickr[/img]




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[*] posted on 2-28-2018 at 10:43 PM


Three, how nice you did some cruising in those areas! Bummer about your wife, I get it too, it's no bueno.

That's a pretty cool "boat" you have! If you want to sail I am guessing you could find a beach cat to rent in some places, right?

I have spent years assessing which is the better way to cruise the SOC and I have run it by ex SOC cruisers and some who have cruised baja by small plane. They agreed with my conclusion, at least on the Baja side, that cruising as a trailer sailer, such as with a truck/van with day or 2-3 day trips off the beach is the way to go, since there are so many shoreside anchorages and you don't need so much cruising gear, drive off if a hurricane is coming your way and you have more social opportunities.

Can't wait to get down there!
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[*] posted on 2-28-2018 at 11:25 PM


You could buy this from me and I'll buy it back after you have sailed and camped around the Bahia Concepcion. Easy-Peasy. Barefoot charter like. Lots of cool spots to see and snorkeling in the blue.

https://bajasur.craigslist.com.mx/boa/d/sailboat-18-capri-ez...

Or just park your rig at my place near the launch ramp and take off for day sails with your Hobie. Just answer me through the Craigslist ad.
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[*] posted on 3-1-2018 at 01:45 PM


There's an excellent spot for sailing, kayaking, even kiting just south of Loreto,, wide sandy beach, great for kiting,, no 'walk of pain' across tide flats, except in lowest of tides,, usually ~1' for ~100' at lowest tide,,, great clamming,, even palapas at the ready... All ~4k from Loreto town center,,,

...find your way south across the big arroyo,,, go west one block, then go south out to the beach, past the airport,,, the further the better for privacy,,, felt quite safe there, only friendly visitors. <;~)
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[*] posted on 3-1-2018 at 03:55 PM


Thank you both!
Micah, does it show up here?
http://app.ioverlander.com
Plug in Loreto and it maps put camping locations. Click on what looks familiar and it will give the name and description, sometimes photos too. TY
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[*] posted on 3-1-2018 at 10:41 PM


Launch at Loreto and head south to Timbibichi and Los Dolores with stops at Agua Verde. The best Baja has to offer unless you can make the islands north of La Paz.

Loreto to Agua verde is +- 40 miles. (limited services)

Timbibichi is a very cool place most easily accessed by sea (no services)

search Timbibichi to see if you want to visit.

Took my dad there by boat on his last Baja visit ( in his 80's) and had a great trip and visit! But I propel with gasoline. don't know much about the sail.
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