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[*] posted on 12-7-2017 at 09:15 AM


Yes, it is true that a tent in strong wind is not the best form of lodging. But, if that is all you have or cannot get a 5th wheel into the places you want to go, not many more options. Neal Johns always has a pop-up camper on his Tacomas, so there is a tent-like mid-section where it raises up. Those are nice.

As for the comments by Hook: Wish I took a photo during the 60+ mph wind burst, but we were getting hit by sideways rain cuddled under the palapa at La Perla... but the Instant tent was unbothered. If the windows weren't all open, its contents (our bedding) would have remained dry! We had just arrived, set up the tent and bedding, then took a swim. That cloudburst arrived so fast (while we were swimming) it was a shock.

Maybe some other Coleman tents have issues in wind, but not the Instant tent? This one may benefit because of the non-rigid corners and always attached frame on the outside of the tent? It sways and bends but returns to its Borg-cube shape. :light:




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[*] posted on 12-7-2017 at 09:35 AM


Thank you everyone!
The last time I went camping was several years ago. But we do go cruising on our sailboat for months at a time though and there is some crossover.

Husband says we must trailer, not car top, the Tandem Island. It's just too heavy to be lugging on and off and he reminded me how noisy it was up there (that's right, very noisy!). So it's boat trailer and a decent tent or older needs a little tlc popup trailer. Either setup will cost around the same, $1k.

The popup provides sleeping off the ground, along with more amenities and storage. Have any of you wished to sleep off the ground? What critters should we be aware of?

Regarding meth heads/tweakers/bad guys - if you have met your neighbor who seems normal and nice like you, would you feel okay with leaving your dog or would you still worry of somebody going through your camp? I had no idea about this issue here in Baja. Most everything I've read online says it's safe and no theft issues of any kind.
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[*] posted on 12-7-2017 at 10:18 AM


Here is some current thinking expressed here:
The coast region as far south as El Rosario:
Only camp in established campgrounds or with a group of other campers, never solo. The riff-raff seems to come from the agricultural areas with many non-Baja Mexicans brought over from the mainland.

Other areas, use your best judgment. I personally like to camp well out of sight of the highway... well out of sight... where 4WD is needed to get to. Crooks don't use 4WD to scout the desert seeking victims. They work areas near their cities and towns with easy in and easy out access to the highway.




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[*] posted on 12-7-2017 at 11:36 AM


Conception is a must.... and a trailer is the way to go.

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[*] posted on 12-7-2017 at 11:57 AM


Quote: Originally posted by Sailorv  
would it be acceptable to leave our dog in the tent while out on the boat or is that a no-no?


i only leave in tent the things i am willing to lose. i dont care if tent or sleeping bags get stolen. but i wont leave my dog alone in a campsite. if doing activities incompatible with dog, then i leave the dog home.

closed tents get hot in full sun, and you should not leave a dog in hot tent for hours.

some types of travel the dogs should just stay home.




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[*] posted on 12-7-2017 at 01:40 PM


Quote: Originally posted by nbentley1  
Conception is a must.... and a trailer is the way to go.


Nice rig!Please tell me about the trailer.
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[*] posted on 12-7-2017 at 02:01 PM


Yes, trailer is the way to go, if you want to spend that kind of money on a camping utility trailer.

But, in the end, you are in a tent, right?

Someone mentioned one of the best reasons to go tent; you can fit it in more places than anything on wheels.

Dont forget Craigslist, when thinking about getting a tent. I am in Boise ID right now and just did a search in Outdoors using the term Tent. 79 tents came up. There are some screaming deals in there like a large Kelty 3 season dome, a Eureka dome, MSR dome. No Marmots, unfortunately. Virtually all under 100.00. Just inspect the floor of any used tent you are considering. That's where they fail.

The other brand I would avoid is Ozark Trails. Cheap line sold at Walmart and other sporting goods places.
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[*] posted on 12-7-2017 at 02:14 PM


Quote: Originally posted by Sailorv  

Have any of you wished to sleep off the ground? What critters should we be aware of?


Oh there are some real nasties out there. Scorpions, tarantulas, wasps, snakes, velvet ants. Even coyotes in large groups will turn on you. You'd better be careful.

There was the night when 30 of them surrounded my campfire. The only thing that saved my life was fire. They fear it. I kept it going all night. Safety came with the first rays of sunshine. It was a brutal night, I can tell you that.

Normally I say 50 Hail Mary's before going to bed. Seems to work. I learned that from Fredo in Godfather.

[Edited on 12-7-2017 by Skipjack Joe]
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[*] posted on 12-7-2017 at 02:24 PM


Quote: Originally posted by Skipjack Joe  
Quote: Originally posted by Sailorv  

Have any of you wished to sleep off the ground? What critters should we be aware of?


Oh there are some real nasties out there. Scorpions, tarantulas, wasps, snakes, velvet ants. Even coyotes in large groups will turn on you. You'd better be careful.

There was the night when 30 of them surrounded my campfire. The only thing that saved my life was fire. They fear it. I kept it going all night. Safety came with the first rays of sunshine. It was a brutal night, I can tell you that.

Normally I say 50 Hail Mary's before going to bed. Seems to work. I learned that from Fredo in Godfather.

[Edited on 12-7-2017 by Skipjack Joe]


i worry more about the chupacabras :o :!:




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[*] posted on 12-7-2017 at 02:27 PM


Quote: Originally posted by chippy  
Quote: Originally posted by nbentley1  
Conception is a must.... and a trailer is the way to go.


Nice rig!Please tell me about the trailer.


Started life on the back of a beer mat after years of having the exact same debate that is taking place on this thread. Pull out kitchen and fridge, platform raises with electronic actuators to give me the height for the tent annex. Based around an old landrover axle to make sure the bolt patterns match the truck. Finished it a couple of years ago. Made a couple of trips to Conception, San Ignacio, laguna Hanson and many stops in between, so plenty of bouncing around and so far no issues or need to make modifications. Anything specifically you are looking for?
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[*] posted on 12-7-2017 at 02:32 PM


April in Concepcion or Loreto in mid March - mid April gets how hot?
I know you mean. We may have to leave her with family. She is at that age where they go quick when they get sick, so we really want to include her in this vacation/adventure. So it's a tough decision.

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  
Quote: Originally posted by Sailorv  
would it be acceptable to leave our dog in the tent while out on the boat or is that a no-no?

closed tents get hot in full sun, and you should not leave a dog in hot tent for hours.

some types of travel the dogs should just stay home.
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Quote: Originally posted by Sailorv  
April in Concepcion or Loreto in mid March - mid April gets how hot?
I know you mean. We may have to leave her with family. She is at that age where they go quick when they get sick, so we really want to include her in this vacation/adventure. So it's a tough decision.

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  
Quote: Originally posted by Sailorv  
would it be acceptable to leave our dog in the tent while out on the boat or is that a no-no?

closed tents get hot in full sun, and you should not leave a dog in hot tent for hours.

some types of travel the dogs should just stay home.


We were is conception towards the end of Feb earlier in the year and the temps were probably in the low 80's during the day and dropping down at nigh if I remember. It was very comfortable.
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[*] posted on 12-7-2017 at 03:03 PM


Make sure the tent has thick poles. I've used those cheap Coleman's and had the thin poles snap in half.
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[*] posted on 12-7-2017 at 03:05 PM


I would take the dog. Dog will be fine tied up with shade, food and water.




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[*] posted on 12-7-2017 at 03:25 PM


i paid $40 for my tent and love it...
You could check out Laguna Manuela which your find by turning towards the beach at Jesus Maria a half hour before Guerrero Negro and there you can camp in the estuary and launch your boat there and may see some whales there...just be very careful as they are protective of their babies with strange boats around...or maybe at Magdelena Bay you can use your boat too.




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[*] posted on 12-7-2017 at 11:36 PM


Quote: Originally posted by MMc  
I would take the dog. Dog will be fine tied up with shade, food and water.
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Thanks MMc because that's what we hoped for. She is totally chill and low maintenance, people love here because of her beautiful coat and her sweet self - people always go out of their way to pet and spend time with her - we've met great friends just because of her. We're lucky to have her and want this adventure to be for her too.
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