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eetdrt88
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espanol for the gringo
cerveza por favor.....this has worked so far but i would like to know more, such as words or phrases that are helpful when conversing with the locals
about camping,fishing,or anything along those lines....muchos gracias amigos
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Bruce R Leech
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never ask a question with out saying something first.
Bruce R Leech
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TMW
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I suggest a good Spanish/English dictionary. Also I like the book Spanish Lingo for the Savvy Gringo by Elizabeth Ried. It's only about 200 pages but
it tells you how to pronouns the words. Several years ago she taught a Spanish language course at Discover Baja in San Diego.
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Marie-Rose
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I highly recommend "Breaking out of Beginner's Spanish" by Joseph Keenan.
Great use of humor to make a very readable book!!
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Dave
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BajaNomad has a 'Spanish language' forum. Check it out.
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bajajudy
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We have Spanish Lingo for the Savvy Gringo available from our website.
Although a dictionary is nice, finding out a few phrases to use can actually start communications.
I also agree with Bruce. Before you say anything, ask how the person is....como esta...or good morning or good evening...buenos dias o buenas tardes.
Never just start without some sort of polite conversation to break the ice.
Suerte
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John M
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New Spanish language book.....
Sunbelt Publications, in their new book section is listing "Spanish Speakout" and writes that you can
"Find the perfect phrase for any situation in hotels, restaurants, shops, and elsewhere"
$11.95 - supposed to be available soon, maybe now! I haven't seen it, but Sunbelt should be familiar to Nomads for their good stuff.
I just spoke with Sunbelt and this title is not in yet, but they hope to have it in a very short time, maybe March.
[Edited on 2-24-2005 by John M]
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yankeeirishman
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Here's the tool you can use. I used one of these with great results. It's at Radio Shack (on line) . Bout a hundred bucks
? Pronounces Spanish and English words clearly using improved ClariSpeech? technology
? The phrases are actual voice recordings of native speakers
? Big 8-10 line display
? Touch-screen navigation for fast, easy operation
? TOEFL test word list, Spelling Bee and word games
? PC connectivity for downloading data from a special Franklin website
? Bookcard system lets you add other Franklin books anytime
? Includes grammar guide, with essential information on Spanish grammar rules to help construct sentences
[Edited on 2-24-2005 by yankeeirishman]
What control freaks there are here. Don\'t believe that post you just read!
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Don Jorge
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helpful when conversing with the locals
In the true spirit of otra cerveza por favor may I suggest the helpful :
"Cu?ado, tu hermanita esta preciosa!"
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eetdrt88
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thanx guyz
baja nomad is muey bueno.thanx for the tips
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Bruce R Leech
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Speaking Spanish is vary important ,but don't forget the body language. in Mexico this is vary important. you can Carry on a whole conversation with
out saying anything. you will never here a Mexican saying Una cerveza por favor. they do a twisted point to the bottle and hold up one finger.
Bruce R Leech
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MrBillM
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Pregunta Para Bruce
How is your WRITTEN Spanish ? Is it the same as your written English ? Or worse ?
On the subject of Spanish as spoken in Mexico (Hose A), a few years back I worked at a facility that had quite a few Cuban expatriates and they were
always lamenting that they didn't speak REAL Spanish in Mexico. I would write a letter in Spanish and ask one of them to proof read it. They would
say time and again that "you don't say it this way" and I would say, "but they do in Baja".
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bajajudy
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Try speaking OUR(Mex) Spanish to someone from Spain. They are insulted with our use of the familiar "tu" for everyone.
The Cubans speak Spanish like a machine gun. They say that the Mexicans sing the language. Isnt that a lovely thought.
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Pompano
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Spanglish!
This is the land of Spanglish for a lot of people...a little of each culture. Maybe that is the way it should be...someday we can all speak the same
cohesive jabberwocky, as mankind did before the Tower of Babel mischief!...or didn't (for you politically correct Baja Nomads!)
Someone borne in upstate Maine can barely converse with someone from the bayous of Louisiana...so it's easy to see why there are so many problems with
differenct ethnic groups of Spanish-speaking peoples.
Years ago we had a guest from Spain and she was continuosly correcting the Baja people on thier pronunciation and grammar. Not too cool for a
foreigner.
It's fun to learn the local idioms and usage. My compadre in town introduces me to others this way...'Este es mi buen amigo, Pompano. El esta un
poco loco, pero el no habla con el fuego.' Now I am sure that would lose something if told to someone from Madrid.
I do what the voices in my tackle box tell me.
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Debra
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"tamato, tomoto"....When I was a young girl in school in Ca. I was taught "proper" Spanish....Castillian...I was raised in San Francisco with Puerto
Rican family members, I have a close friend from Chilie.....And I have southren Ca. friends that correct me (embarres me....they have ) with my
"Spanglish" so I stop trying when I'm along with others that speak better Mexican than I (NO, NOT YOU!)....one thing that I have never had happen when
traveling alone is have a Mexican laugh at me or correct me while trying to use their launguage..
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bajalera
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I've never been to this place where people use "tu" all the time. Where is it?
bajalera
\"Very few things happen at the right time, and the rest never happen at all. The conscientious historian will correct these defects.\" -
Mark Twain
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Tucker
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I used to try to use "usted".....
and many times corrected to use "tu".
\"I think it would be a good idea.\"
-- Mahatma Gandhi, when asked what he thought of Western civilization
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BajaVida
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better to call someone Ud. and be invited to call them tu
than refer to them as tu and insult them
No se apure y dure.
Don\'t hurry and you\'ll last longer.
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thebajarunner
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Tu/ Ud
In Mexico City my friends call the parents 'tu'
My wife, from Jalisco, was horrified that I would refer to her mother as tu.
Only Usted for mama..
Go figure
(and I called my father "the old man" in Gringolandia)
Baja Arriba!!
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bajajudy
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Most people here use "tu" after you have had one conversation with them. I think that is good because it lets you know that the person definitely is
talking about you not it, he or she. I have noticed that if I ask como se llama, people look around to see what I want to know the name of. Now I
always say como se llama usted and then people tell me their name.
Maybe it is just a regional thing. Like people in La Paz pronounce their city La Pa
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