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Cancamo
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Hanging from Bridges in BCS
These guys are getting real bold. Last week Los Cabos Police chief was killed, now this. Up till this point, a terror statement used in other states,
as far as I know it's a first here in BCS. Already have doubled the murder rate from last year, now over 400.
So sad, wasn't long ago people didn't even lock their doors in neighborhoods of La Paz. Now business in S.Jose Viejo, Zacatal, Santa Rosa are
shuttering with the downturn of business and the anticipated future prospect of extortion. Restaurants are complaining that the vast majority of
tourist are in all inclusive resorts, not dining out, much less leaving the hotels. The EMS services are complaining of all the additional work load
beyond the usual road accidents, house calls, responding daily now to grisly scenes.
Need an Emilio Zapata type patriot to step up and face this, the people would be behind it, need a leader with real big cajones that can't be bought.
www.peninsulardigital.com/extra/rojo-amanacer/234325
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BajaNaranja
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More from Reuters: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mexico-violence/six-bodie...
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4x4abc
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that must have been very very long ago. I have been living in La Paz since 2003. Doors locked or not - thieves have been coming on a regular basis to
"borrow" my stuff. Not even a high walls kept them away.
Only a couple of fierce dogs brought quieter times.
Harald Pietschmann
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Rainer
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big cajones???
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Cancamo
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20/30 years is not a long time ago in perspective. I remember walking all over the town and everyone had their front doors wide open, often people sat
on their front porch in the evening, a city of peace it was.
Bad spelling, cojones, (balls).
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measomsan
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This is truly sad indeed. I lived eight years on the cape and never worried. Sure we locked houses, built walls and kept our eyes open. But I always
knew the day would come when the Costco bridge would have a body there swinging. My locals friends there are really getting hurt by these chit
heads. They don't understand that visitors don't come, their business dries up
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chuckie
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The number of murders is a fairly new thing, for sure..BUT getting robbed or having things stolen in Baja certainly isn't. I have been victimized in:
Mulege, Cabo San lucas,, San Ignacio (twice), Hiway Check points, South end of Concepcion bay (three times),Santa Inez, and likely other places that I
have forgotten about. I was held up and robbed at gunpoint in San Carlos on the "other side". Most of these incidents were reported to the Police, who
generally shrugged and explained politely why they couldn't do anything about it. I paid about 100 bucks to get a police report on one of them that
was big enough to file an insurance claim on. At isolated locations I stopped locking my vehicles to save the cost of glass and body damage. This
occurred over the 30+ years I hung out in Baja. It got steadily worse during the last 10 or so. It is what it is, folks..and WILL get worse...OH I
almost forgot being cuffed and extorted by Army guys after they planted ammo in my car...
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Howard
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Jeez Chuckie, remind me not to hang out with you! 
We don't stop playing because we grow old;
we grow old because we stop playing
George Bernard Shaw
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paranewbi
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Over 100,000 miles driving through Mex, Baja and Central America since early 70's. 50,000 with my wife. Surfed during the Reagan wars in Nicaragua and
El Salvador. Had ONE bad experience when 3 guys wanted to rape my wife in the middle of the night and got stabbed through the hand when fighting them
off...they ran, we kept going on. Police, locals and all other travelers met were just plain outright awesome in all places and over all time,
including 3 trips on Mainland last year. Reading Chuckie's
accounts tells me a lot about Chuckie.
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chuckie
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Chu wan tuff hombre newbi!
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LancairDriver
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Quote: Originally posted by paranewbi  | | Over 100,000 miles driving through Mex, Baja and Central America since early 70's. 50,000 with my wife. Surfed during the Reagan wars in Nicaragua and
El Salvador. Had ONE bad experience when 3 guys wanted to rape my wife in the middle of the night and got stabbed through the hand when fighting them
off...they ran, we kept going on. Police, locals and all other travelers met were just plain outright awesome in all places and over all time,
including 3 trips on Mainland last year. Reading Chuckie's
accounts tells me a lot about Chuckie. |
So what you are saying is that you have been lucky. Chuckles accounts indicate he has been unlucky. Maybe you should make regular trips to Vegas.
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TMW
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I guess I've been pretty lucky compared to Chuckie. I've had my trucks broken into a couple of times and a truck stolen. It all happened 25 years ago
or more, nothing recently thank god. We did have some small garden type statues stolen from in front of our new house here in Bako last year.
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From Mexico News Deily
https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/bodies-of-six-found-hanging...
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Lee
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Wonder if these were bad guys and had it coming? Sometimes it’s wrong place wrong time. Baja isn’t for everyone.
US Marines: providing enemies of America an opportunity to die for their country since 1775.
What I say before any important decision.
F*ck it.
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paranewbi
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| Quote: Originally posted by LancairDriver | | Quote: Originally posted by paranewbi | | Over 100,000 miles driving through Mex, Baja and Central America since early 70's. 50,000 with my wife. Surfed during the Reagan wars in Nicaragua and
El Salvador. Had ONE bad experience when 3 guys wanted to rape my wife in the middle of the night and got stabbed through the hand when fighting them
off...they ran, we kept going on. Police, locals and all other travelers met were just plain outright awesome in all places and over all time,
including 3 trips on Mainland last year. Reading Chuckie's
accounts tells me a lot about Chuckie. |
So what you are saying is that you have been lucky. Chuckles accounts indicate he has been unlucky. Maybe you should make regular trips to Vegas.
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Never have worshiped at the altar of luck. Started 'paying it ahead' in my early teens by working in orphanages in TJ, Ensenada, Mexicali. Kept some
humbleness in all my travels. Here's a thought; you get in life what you give.
Rolling the dice in ignorance and arrogance is a game of chance best not played. I'll let others relate their experiences of doing so as some have
done in this thread. Unlucky? what a stupid concept, but then again 'stupid is as stupid does'.
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JZ
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| Quote: Originally posted by chuckie | | The number of murders is a fairly new thing, for sure..BUT getting robbed or having things stolen in Baja certainly isn't. I have been victimized in:
Mulege, Cabo San lucas,, San Ignacio (twice), Hiway Check points, South end of Concepcion bay (three times),Santa Inez, and likely other places that I
have forgotten about. I was held up and robbed at gunpoint in San Carlos on the "other side". Most of these incidents were reported to the Police, who
generally shrugged and explained politely why they couldn't do anything about it. I paid about 100 bucks to get a police report on one of them that
was big enough to file an insurance claim on. At isolated locations I stopped locking my vehicles to save the cost of glass and body damage. This
occurred over the 30+ years I hung out in Baja. It got steadily worse during the last 10 or so. It is what it is, folks..and WILL get worse...OH I
almost forgot being cuffed and extorted by Army guys after they planted ammo in my car... |
I don't believe a word you type on here. Just a blow hard looking for attention.
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chuckie
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Thank you for your input JZ!
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pacificobob
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YES! very dangerous! get out while your heads are still attached! return north where violence is all but unknown in American cities.
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caj13
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Oh boy, violence closing in!
4 bodies hanging from overpasses near los cabos international, 2 more near La Paz. The fact that it is "syndicate Violence" doesn't go a long way
toward alieviating my angst.
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woody with a view
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old news.
btw, when you strap on your boots and walk out of the house in the morning you assume a certain amount of risk. don't let life keep you indoors!
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