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[*] posted on 1-7-2018 at 01:42 PM
Baja 2018 Cactus-Whales-Tecate Roadtrip Questions


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We're leaving next week for our annual baja roadtrip. We've got two vehicles (a newish Jeep SUV and an older diesel Land Cruiser), 5 people, and 1 small dog. Halfway through the Jeep (with dog and 3 of the group) will turn back and two of us will wander some more.

Here's our rough plan and questions. We'll probably wing it / deviate quite a bit along the way. Still, I like to plan a route in my head. Half the fun is thinking about the trip.


  1. Day 1 - cross in TJ and overnight in Ensenada.
  2. Day 2 - One night in Cañón de Guadalupe. I usually shy away from this spot, even though it's awesome, because the high prices, glamping, and weird history of how they took it over. But I've got a couple people with me who've never been there so we'll probably go and enjoy the pools. Is the Oasis the best bet to camp?
  3. Day 3 - Party on the San Felipe malecón. Is Danny Clamato still in business?
  4. Day 4 - Drive south and camp a night at Punta Final. Worth it to do a bit of shore fishing here or elsewhere? What would I bring? I know how to cast lures and entertain the fish with a spinning reel in a lake but never fished the ocean.
  5. Day 5 - Drive to Ojo de Liebre for whale watching with Shari via Coco's and the Calamajue wash / arroyo trail. How's the trail this year? I don't expect any trouble with either vehicle.
  6. Day 7 - Camp along Bahia Concepcion. Not sure where yet. I have some GPS coordinates from a place we boondocked before and will probably head there if it's quiet.
  7. Day 8 - Adios to the Jeep and it's crew. Land Cruiser heads to San Ignacio.
  8. Day 9 - Maybe more whales. I've never been to the lagoon at San Ignacio and I'm curious to see how the whales behave there. Recommendations to stay near town or near Lagoon?
  9. Day 10 - We start meandering north. First stop La Bocana. I've never stopped and have always meant to say hi to Blanca. Recommendations on camping?
  10. Day 12 - Ojo de Liebre again. Would have stayed longer on the way down but our Jeep friends were on a tighter schedule.
  11. Day 14 - Punta Blanco or somewhere along the coast road for the 7 Sisters? Coco said great things about camping near Punta Blanco and the road connecting hwy 1 to Punta Blanco and it's been circled on my map for a while. Recommendations for a beautiful remote spot to camp? I promise not to disturb the surfers :)
  12. Day 16 - Playa La Gringa from Bahia de Los Angeles. I've never camped here.
  13. Day 18 - Back to San Felipe via Chapala and Coco's. Warm shower.
  14. Day 19 - Camp in the desert lake bed at Laguna Diablo. Get up early and watch the lunar eclipse. Last time I was here I had a bunch of fun hanging out with the army guys. We gave them beer, they checked out my Land Cruiser and let me play with their Hummer. Maybe this year they'll let me drive it and pop off a few rounds.
  15. Day 20 - Cross in Mexicali and head back to the default world, with tacos and tecate in my belly and a happy thoughts of a wild and distant land in my head.


Anybody on my route in need of anything? I can bring stuff from the states or pick things up along the way.


[Edited on 2018-1-7 by WideAngleWandering]




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[*] posted on 1-7-2018 at 03:35 PM


Wonderful list of places... but where is Baja Cactus (El Rosario) and Tecate fitting in (both in your subject title)?

With so many places, all I personally can offer is for you to look at my 7 trip reports of 2017, as I went to many of those places. They are all in the Nomad Trip Reports forum, here: http://forums.bajanomad.com/forumdisplay.php?fid=50




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[*] posted on 1-7-2018 at 04:56 PM


Edited the title to make it a bit more clear.

Cactus:


Cactus in the Valle de los Cirios by Wide-Angle Wandering, on Flickr

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Coming Right For Us by Wide-Angle Wandering, on Flickr

Tecate:


Breakfast by Wide-Angle Wandering, on Flickr

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LOL, yes... good clarity now!



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[*] posted on 1-7-2018 at 06:31 PM


#8- I have only stayed in town but always wondered about the cabins out at the coast where the whale watching is? I love the ride from El Arco back to BOLA and I'm sure it would be an awesome drive, stop and have a beer with poncho....... Sounds like an awesome trip!
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[*] posted on 1-8-2018 at 07:43 PM


Oh that B&W of the calf's dimples is so amazing! Can't wait to chill with you guys.
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[*] posted on 1-9-2018 at 08:47 PM


I have so many whale photos to share. Here's another from last year.


Grey Whale in Ojo de Liebre by Wide-Angle Wandering, on Flickr

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["Day 14 - Punta Blanco or somewhere along the coast road for the 7 Sisters? Coco said great things about camping near Punta Blanco and the road connecting hwy 1 to Punta Blanco and it's been circled on my map for a while. Recommendations for a beautiful remote spot to camp? I promise not to disturb the surfers :)"]

Which road did Coco recommend using to get there? There is a rock outcropping at the mid-section and on the south side is a good place to camp. GPS 29-05.63x114-37.56

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There are two roads that go from Hwy 1 to Punta Blanco. KM 234 Near where you come out from Cocos at Laguna Chapala. It's fenced so check with the Tire guy there or at the restaurant (blue bldg) on how to access it. Road is rough with lots of silt beds near the ocean. Go south as you near the ocean. About 4 miles from hwy 1 is a dry lake and if it rains it may be covered with water. I'd be careful crossing with water on it. If you do cross you want to go just to the right of a large black hill on the west side of the lake bed.

Best road is at KM252. Also silt beds after you come down the mountain. Be careful picking your lines. Go north as you near the ocean.

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[*] posted on 1-9-2018 at 09:52 PM


I can't remember the details, just that it was near the Laguna Chapala area. I figured I'd get better directions from him on this next trip, but your layout may get me there. Thank you.



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Quote: Originally posted by WideAngleWandering  
I can't remember the details, just that it was near the Laguna Chapala area. I figured I'd get better directions from him on this next trip, but your layout may get me there. Thank you.


Use my maps to help visualize the roads... I have the nearest kilometer marker shown... The Km. 252 road via San Antonio and La Miseria is VERY BAD, deeply rutted downhill 4WD grade when I traveled it last summer.







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[*] posted on 1-10-2018 at 10:44 AM


Reasonable to traverse those either of those 4wd trails with a single vehicle? My 4wd is capable, I'm a decent driver, but I won't have a backup vehicle on this leg.



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I did, last year... in a Tacoma. Having others along would be fun... but not mandatory with a good 4WD and experience. I drove the road from K270 to the fork west of La Miseria, then south to the coast road, which I was on 2 days before.

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[*] posted on 1-10-2018 at 11:13 AM


"Day 14" happens about what day on the calendar? Ski season has been a bust so far in the Donner Summit area, so I might as well be in Baja!

I have some significant mechanical problems to overcome before I head south, but would love to explore that area.




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[*] posted on 1-10-2018 at 01:07 PM


The road from either KM252 or KM270 would be the safest since there are ranches along the way. Some of the ranches are abandoned. This road is used by the locals on a regular bases. The fish camp at Bahia Blanco is at the north end.
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Quote: Originally posted by TMW  
The road from either KM252 or KM270 would be the safest since there are ranches along the way. Some of the ranches are abandoned. This road is used by the locals on a regular bases. The fish camp at Bahia Blanco is at the north end.


Tom, that l-o-n-g, deeply rutted grade down the mountain between San Antonio and La Miseria, was pretty bad last year. Other than San Antonio and La Miseria (where I rescued the couple who were without food or transportation), I saw no other ranches other than a couple of very abandoned ones. The lady at La Miseria said there has been nobody along the road in a couple of months (maybe that she saw or heard?).




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At the Jct where the roads from KM252 and KM270 come together there is a white house that sets up on a hillside to the north. I have met the owner. I really can't say he still lives there or not now as it's been a coup[le of years. The ranch you call La Miseria was called Las Palomas when I was there and there are a couple of roads that bypassed the ranch, I just happened upon it because I kept going left at each jct to stay out of the silt beds as I headed to the hwy. There is another ranch further west across the valley to the north from the jct called Cordornices. If I remember correctly there are buildings there and cattle. It too may be abandoned with only the cattle roaming from the La Miseria ranch.

The road from Hwy 1 at KM 234 is very seldom used and is fenced along the hwy. As you come down the hill near the ocean there are many silt beds. Before the fence at the hwy went up there were large trucks hauling beach rocks to sell. Maybe the fence was put up to stop them. Maybe the tire guy at the Chapala Jct or the restaurant owner to the south would know. 
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Quote: Originally posted by TMW  
At the Jct where the roads from KM252 and KM270 come together there is a white house that sets up on a hillside to the north. I have met the owner. I really can't say he still lives there or not now as it's been a coup[le of years. The ranch you call La Miseria was called Las Palomas when I was there and there are a couple of roads that bypassed the ranch, I just happened upon it because I kept going left at each jct to stay out of the silt beds as I headed to the hwy. There is another ranch further west across the valley to the north from the jct called Cordornices. If I remember correctly there are buildings there and cattle. It too may be abandoned with only the cattle roaming from the La Miseria ranch.

The road from Hwy 1 at KM 234 is very seldom used and is fenced along the hwy. As you come down the hill near the ocean there are many silt beds. Before the fence at the hwy went up there were large trucks hauling beach rocks to sell. Maybe the fence was put up to stop them. Maybe the tire guy at the Chapala Jct or the restaurant owner to the south would know. 


I chatted with StuckSucks (Jim) about the Chapala (Km 234) to Coast road as he travels it for Cops Racing Team pit support. I was going to drive it on my trip in the area but rescuing the couple at La Miseria foiled that plan. Jim told me it was passable in 2WD but borderline, and with silt, adding the term "4WD" to it, on my map, seemed the wise thing to do.

La Miseria is pretty interesting as it has a hot tub and pool... You can see those on satellite images.




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[*] posted on 1-13-2018 at 12:20 AM


Quote: Originally posted by AKgringo  
"Day 14" happens about what day on the calendar?

Day 1 should have been today. Maybe it will be tomorrow. So much to do. Got to get packing.

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