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David K
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New on Facebook: Baja California Land of Missions GROUP
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1685520784824763/
New URL: https://www.facebook.com/groups/bajamissions/
Hi all!
While I have made a Facebook page for those interested in the missions of Baja California and the book I wrote (Baja California Land of Missions www.oldmissions.com ) at www.facebook.com/oldmissions
I was recently advised or requested to create a "Group" page associated with it so viewers could more easily interact with each other or with me about
the missions, the book, or travel in Baja California... The Land of Missions!
So, I made the page yesterday, and WillyAirstream was quick to suggest I add mission photos. I guess one does not always see the Facebook page that
the group is part of (where there are hundreds of mission photos)?
I have been adding my new (2017) or most recent mission photos to this new page. I have missions #1 (Loreto)-#6 (La Purísima) posted so far.
Here is the new Facebook GROUP page for Baja California Land of Missions/ and The Old Missions of Baja & Alta California + other books from
M&E BOOKS... https://www.facebook.com/groups/1685520784824763/ or
https://www.facebook.com/groups/bajamissions/
Please have a look, click the LIKE button, and participate if you want!  
[Edited on 12-15-2018 by David K]
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This is where BN needs a LIKE button!
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David K
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Thanks Udo... there is a Like button on my FB page!
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After all the badmouthing over the years of Facebook you have finally come around. good for you.
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David K
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Thank you norte for the well wishes. In my defense, I don't think I was badmouthing Facebook as much as I was hoping to find a way for it to work as a
traveler's aid to research past trip reports and important posts. I am sorry if my questions sounded like badmouthing. I have had personal and mission
book Facebook pages for years.
My mission books have been featured on Facebook since 2012: www.facebook.com/oldmissions and now, there is this group page I just made attached to the OldMissions page so more can interact easily.
The old missions are doorways to the past where we can be amazed by the activities undertaken so long ago in such a rugged and far-off land.
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Quote: Originally posted by David K  | Thank you norte for the well wishes. In my defense, I don't think I was badmouthing Facebook as much as I was hoping to find a way for it to work as a
traveler's aid to research past trip reports and important posts. I am sorry if my questions sounded like badmouthing. I have had personal and mission
book Facebook pages for years.
My mission books have been featured on Facebook since 2012: www.facebook.com/oldmissions and now, there is this group page I just made attached to the OldMissions page so more can interact easily.
The old missions are doorways to the past where we can be amazed by the activities undertaken so long ago in such a rugged and far-off land.
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No problem David. But surely you are not saying that FACEBOOK has not been an aid to travelers or has important stuff on it. Much like this place,
there is the good and the bad Of course when one is trying to sell a book, facebook gives you exposure to a very large audience. But of course
since you have been a facebook member for so long you know this. bump for exposure.
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David K
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What I was trying to learn when you think I was badmouthing (I guess) is if Facebook could have a way to easily find trip reports and location
details. As it is, anything posted on FB over a few days to months ago (depending how busy the page is) vanishes way way down a page. FB is only good
for new or very recent postings. If you know who posted the report or exact words to search, then you may find stuff. Newbies to Baja travel will not
know who or what to search, however. I like to help people find the many wonders of Baja in the manner guidebooks and articles helped me in the 60s,
70s, 80s, 90s. Now, we have the Internet, and message boards (which are great) are being phased to Facebook.
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the ability to hide and block.......priceless 
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"Phased to Facebook"??? Facebook has been around since 2004 and has over 2 billion users...No phasing necessary except for those who have lagged
behind the times. In fact, studies are showing Facebook losing membership to more modern platforms such as Snapchat, Instagram, and heaven forbid,
Twitter.
As with most popular pages, the more posting, the more things fall off the page. Not popular, things stay up. As with most things, SEARCH is
your friend.
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David K
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An update,
On the new Groups page at Facebook/OldMissions (Baja California Land of Missions book), I have been adding my 2017 or most recent photos of every
mission site. As of today, I have the first nine missions (15 sites) posted. A group page is open to the public and allows for easy questions/answers
about the mission history, the book, or Baja travel to the missions and other historic sites. Baja is full of them!
Here's the direct link: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1685520784824763/
Modified link: https://www.facebook.com/groups/bajamissions/
[Edited on 12-15-2018 by David K]
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| Quote: Originally posted by David K |
The old missions are doorways to the past where we can be amazed by the activities undertaken so long ago in such a rugged and far-off land.
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Oh the Fun those natives must have had.............
Where have all the good times gone 
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David K
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| Quote: Originally posted by BajaRat | | Quote: Originally posted by David K |
The old missions are doorways to the past where we can be amazed by the activities undertaken so long ago in such a rugged and far-off land.
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Oh the Fun those natives must have had.............
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Indeed as there are two sides to every story.
However, it is my opinion after reading so much of what was recorded during the mission period, that the Jesuits were much more respectful of the
Natives in California. They learned the language, allowed free-movement, and simply exchanged work for food.
The Natives came by the thousands to join the Jesuit missions. Working at the mission or on the Camino Real must have been preferable to what they
were able to eat before the missions? In any case, the only hostility seems to have come from the insistence that polygamy be halted and that their
religious articles be destroyed (sad). The Pericú Revolt (1734-1736) was partially blamed on these Catholic rules.
The big negative change for the Indians came after the Jesuits were removed from their missions (December 1767) and California was put under Spanish
civil control with the Franciscan running the missions (starting in April 1768). The Natives were now treated far differently and made tools of the
Spanish government. The Franciscan,s nor the Dominicans who replaced them on the peninsula, seemed at all interested in learning the native languages
or honoring local homelands or 'kingdoms' as the Jesuits did.
The Spanish governor had ordered hundreds of Natives to relocate to better farming areas, but well outside their homelands. Death came to all who were
moved either from diseases or fighting with the new areas' original Indian tribes.
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Facebook is horrible
| Quote: Originally posted by David K | What I was trying to learn when you think I was badmouthing (I guess) is if Facebook could have a way to easily find trip reports and location
details. As it is, anything posted on FB over a few days to months ago (depending how busy the page is) vanishes way way down a page. FB is only good
for new or very recent postings. If you know who posted the report or exact words to search, then you may find stuff. Newbies to Baja travel will not
know who or what to search, however. I like to help people find the many wonders of Baja in the manner guidebooks and articles helped me in the 60s,
70s, 80s, 90s. Now, we have the Internet, and message boards (which are great) are being phased to Facebook.
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I agree. Facebook is for chit chat and showing pictures and cute memes. It is pretty worthless for learning. As you said, try to find something on
facebook from a month ago, vs finding threads on discussion forums from years ago. There just is no comparison. Facebook is a constant stream of
newbie questions, there is no opportunity to search and accumulate knowlege base.
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David K
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I have just added photos and floor plans (1880-2017) of Mission Santo Domingo to the Baja Missions Group Page, please have a look if you like looking
back in time: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1685520784824763/
Modified link: https://www.facebook.com/groups/bajamissions/
[Edited on 12-15-2018 by David K]
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Facebook sucks. Gave that crap up in 2007.
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Billions of people dont agree with you!
Woke!
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will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
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Billions of ppl are very poor.
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The Russians like Facebook.
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Pendejo
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David K
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Missions boys, missions.
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