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[*] posted on 2-2-2018 at 08:46 PM
San Juanico / Scorpion Bay north to Laguna San Ignacio


Does anyone have semi-current information on either or both of the two roads from San Juanico / Scorpion Bay north to Laguna San Ignacio? I'm interested in both the high road and the low road (through El Dátil).
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[*] posted on 2-3-2018 at 12:30 AM


Please see my trip reports for 2017. I traveled over 11,000 miles in Baja and posted the details, maps, mileages in the Nomad Baja Trip Reports forum. San Ignacio south was Trip #6, last August. It was easy, I drove the Salina route via El Datil.



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[*] posted on 2-3-2018 at 10:50 AM






Here's my GPS track with mileages from San Juanico to El Datil:


El Datil north to the junction with the high road:


At Laguna San Ignacio:


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[*] posted on 2-3-2018 at 12:30 PM


The high road north of El Cuarenta has been damaged by rain from a couple of years ago. I have not heard of anyone getting thru in the last year or two. Martin at the ranch told us to take the cut across rd to Los Batequis shown in Davids picture above. If anyone has been on it recently it would have been Nomad Desertbull and bikers probably.
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[*] posted on 2-5-2018 at 09:14 AM


The high road is passable, but slow going. Something like 50+ washouts which force you to go around, into, over, through, each of them one way or another...from San Jose de Gracia the road is good as traffic to and from SJG is daily ... ... as listed on DK's map its named the High Road...the other trail listed is called "The Salt Flats" and DK is missing a road which we call the "Sand Highway" and splits them in half ... many think the Sand Highway is really a good road until we take them on the Salt Flats and run 60 mph all the way ... smoother then Mex Why 1 in Catavina. :lol::lol::lol: Enjoy and get out and explore. Stop in San Juanico for a cold beer! Sit on the beach and slow down. Life is good!




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[*] posted on 2-5-2018 at 10:21 AM


Thanks Tim.
About where does this "Sand Highway" join in (on the north and south ends)? It is not shown, as I did not see or hear of it before my trip last August, I was going by TW's notes before I let... not that I had the time to loop back over any more road that trip.




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[*] posted on 2-5-2018 at 01:58 PM


I traced a road between 26-44.62x113-01.92 on the north end. It's a split off the main road south of the split to El Datil. This center road rejoins the main road from El Datil at 26-26.28x112-46.00. It appears to be a pretty straight road but I lost it in two sections in the bottom half. Google Earth was dated Jan 2015.

Maybe this is the road Desertbull was talking about.
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[*] posted on 2-5-2018 at 06:29 PM


That middle road is woopty doo city. Prolly fun on a bike but no bueno in a truck, a real camper scrambler. However it ican be the only option during/after rain. Better then when the sand is hard

I “heard” recently that the upper road is what “everybody” is using right now. Reputable source SJ local one month ago. FWIW

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[*] posted on 3-6-2018 at 10:32 AM


Desertbull, when you say the road is good and traffic is daily to and from SJG, is that from the north or south? Also, what's your opinion on making the trip, via the salt flats, w two wheel drive? A member of our small group has a vanagon. Thanks in advance.
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[*] posted on 3-6-2018 at 10:57 AM


fwiw, since I used the salt flat road, let me advise to keep to the inland edge route (rather than the shorter, cross flats route). Perhaps not do that way during full or new moon phases (for the tides) or after rain. The north end, near the fork with the high road was pretty rough washboard.



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[*] posted on 3-6-2018 at 11:46 AM


if you have multiple vehicles and one is 4WD to give the other ones a short tow if they are stuck in the sand then yes, Vanagon good to go but only on the low route .. the Vanagon will not make it thru the middle route aka Sand Highway .... like DK says if the full moon and tide flood the low route might be tough on a Vanagon ... the locals do it daily but they have knowledge of ALL the routes ... even the low tidal route has 20 different variations of connecting trails ... and the locals know them all.

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Desertbull, when you say the road is good and traffic is daily to and from SJG, is that from the north or south? Also, what's your opinion on making the trip, via the salt flats, w two wheel drive? A member of our small group has a vanagon. Thanks in advance.




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[*] posted on 8-12-2018 at 09:47 PM


Ive heard that the north high road is great right now. Only a few spots of moondust. I think I'm gonna go for it this week unless someone has some newer info?

Last time I took the "sand highway." It was fine for me in an AWD van. Helped a guy get unstuck in his 2wd toyota sequoia. When we linked up with the last of the salt flats it was smooth sailing until the very last one where we chose poorly and didn't go all the way to the side of the flat. I made it through but my friend got high centered in his subaru outback. Digging him out was fun. yea... fun.
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[*] posted on 8-13-2018 at 11:16 PM


Quote: Originally posted by TheEL  
Ive heard that the north high road is great right now. Only a few spots of moondust. I think I'm gonna go for it this week unless someone has some newer info?

Last time I took the "sand highway." It was fine for me in an AWD van. Helped a guy get unstuck in his 2wd toyota sequoia. When we linked up with the last of the salt flats it was smooth sailing until the very last one where we chose poorly and didn't go all the way to the side of the flat. I made it through but my friend got high centered in his subaru outback. Digging him out was fun. yea... fun.


It has been many months since the previous post to yours. Desert Bull has said recently the high road is now the preferred route as road graders had made it very fast. When I went through the area 12 months ago, the high road had many reported washouts from floods and the Salina (low) road was preferred. If one stays to the inland edge tracks and doesn't short-cut across on the straight tracks, you will miss mud holes. Your choice... the low road is only a couple of miles longer than the high road... but best done in an SUV or truck, imo.




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