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[*] posted on 2-8-2018 at 04:21 PM
1971 AAA Baja Map (July 1971) for historical interest


Before 1975 and sometime after the late 1960s, the AAA map (actually was the Auto Club of Southern California) had a large scale map of northern Baja and the smaller scale of the rest of Baja on the other side. That smaller scale was the same style map they had for all of Baja in the early 1960s and before.

I have 9 scans of this 1971 map provided by TW (TMW on Nomad).



















The new (then) highway is not accurate south of Santiago nor was there a paved 6 mile road to Agua Caliente... just a couple quick observations.

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I will scan the Sept. 1973 edition of the Baja map next...




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[*] posted on 2-9-2018 at 10:14 PM


Wow this is cool
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[*] posted on 2-19-2018 at 01:05 PM


Quote: Originally posted by Mateo-Feo  
Wow this is cool


I think so, too! Like looking back in time.
Soon, I will put up the 1973 map that TW sent me. The Olympics have been distracting me! The '73 map shows the proposed or under construction route of the new highway.

Does anyone have the 1972 AAA Baja map?




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[*] posted on 2-21-2018 at 01:08 PM


Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Quote: Originally posted by Mateo-Feo  
Wow this is cool


I think so, too! Like looking back in time.
Soon, I will put up the 1973 map that TW sent me. The Olympics have been distracting me! The '73 map shows the proposed or under construction route of the new highway.

Does anyone have the 1972 AAA Baja map?


(This new format has me totally confused. See another post below)

[Edited on 2-21-2018 by Barry A.]

[Edited on 2-21-2018 by Barry A.]
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[*] posted on 2-21-2018 at 01:17 PM


I never was on any of the unpaved sections of the transpeninsular hwy (though I was going down to Ensenada from '69 on), but I did drive the
hwy between Ensenada and San Felipe in '73, before it was completely paved. Seemed like it was only the section across Laguna Diablo that was still dirt.

My gal and I had lunch at Arnold's Cafe and drove all the way back to Ensenada in the same day!! We were blown away at the temp change (especially the water) between Ensenada and San Felipe.
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[*] posted on 2-21-2018 at 01:21 PM


David----I have 3 Auto Club Baja maps that are so old I can't find any publishing date on them.

Also a 1963 "Kym's Guide" map of Baja.

Also a AAA map of Baja dated 1973, but it has a big trip tp Cabo plotted on it with red and black ink.

These are all my Aunt Becky McSheehy's Baja maps from way back when in the '40's, 50's, 60's and newer.

Also, AAA "Baja Log" books from 1959, 1963, l975, l979 and 1984, and beyond.

If interested send me an e-mail.

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[*] posted on 2-21-2018 at 03:46 PM


Quote: Originally posted by Hook  
I never was on any of the unpaved sections of the transpeninsular hwy (though I was going down to Ensenada from '69 on), but I did drive the
hwy between Ensenada and San Felipe in '73, before it was completely paved. Seemed like it was only the section across Laguna Diablo that was still dirt.

My gal and I had lunch at Arnold's Cafe and drove all the way back to Ensenada in the same day!! We were blown away at the temp change (especially the water) between Ensenada and San Felipe.


Indeed! Night and day difference.
The pavement out of Ensenada in November of 1973 ended just a few miles east of Ojos Negros. We camped there to watch the Baja 1000. In my Super 8 movie you can see the highway under construction as the racers were on the parallel dirt road. It wasn't until late 1977 or '78 did they reach Hwy. 5. It was first BC #16 before the Feds took over and gave it the same name as the Tecate to Ensenada highway, Mexico #3.





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[*] posted on 2-21-2018 at 06:40 PM


Quote: Originally posted by Barry A.  
David----I have 3 Auto Club Baja maps that are so old I can't find any publishing date on them.

Also a 1963 "Kym's Guide" map of Baja.

Also a AAA map of Baja dated 1973, but it has a big trip tp Cabo plotted on it with red and black ink.

These are all my Aunt Becky McSheehy's Baja maps from way back when in the '40's, 50's, 60's and newer.

Also, AAA "Baja Log" books from 1959, 1963, l975, l979 and 1984, and beyond.

If interested send me an e-mail.

Barry


Email sent... I have the AAA books from 1970 on (or a lot of them). but I would enjoy anything from the 1960s or earlier! I have the 1973 map from TW and will scan it in the near future (I have a lot of stuff I am attending to).

I do want to see the 1972 map if you should have it.
Anyone else, if you could scan and show or send me the 1972 Auto Club Baja map... primarily the side showing El Rosario to Santa Rosalia to see where they have the paving. My memory of it shows it about halfway to San Ignacio from Santa Rosalia??? Do they show any of the proposed or under construction part, like the early 1973 map does north of El Crucero to El Progreso?




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[*] posted on 2-22-2018 at 01:50 PM


Wow that is amazing. I would love to do the Baja 1000 someday. A bucketlist item.
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Quote: Originally posted by sundance007  
Wow that is amazing. I would love to do the Baja 1000 someday. A bucketlist item.

Just get involved in someway. That Super 8 movie I filmed at 16. I began going to see the races many times after. In 1978 I was asked if I would hold a fire extinguisher at a pit during the Baja 500 and pretty soon I was a pit captain at various races. In 1979, I was invited to co-drive in the first Baja 1000 that Score ran to La Paz. Just be where you want to be in life, and it can happen!




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[*] posted on 2-22-2018 at 05:09 PM


HEHE I still have my AAA map from the 70s buried somewhere.
It looks to like the racers were just coasting through the area slowly :-)




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[*] posted on 2-22-2018 at 08:25 PM


La Bocana isn't even on that map! Holy smokes.

Very cool to look at older maps...thanks for sharing.




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[*] posted on 5-23-2018 at 10:47 PM


Stunning Map of Baja in 1971
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[*] posted on 5-24-2018 at 07:56 AM


Thanks... it is a cool way to go back in time!



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[*] posted on 5-25-2018 at 06:57 AM


South of San Felipe there are two roads. The old Puerticitos road (OPR) and the current road closer to the Sea. What was the time period when the transition from OPR to the present road path?
Any old maps showing both?
A friend and resident for 40 years remembers driving south using OPR. I wonder if his memory is good?
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Quote: Originally posted by PaulW  
South of San Felipe there are two roads. The old Puerticitos road (OPR) and the current road closer to the Sea. What was the time period when the transition from OPR to the present road path?
Any old maps showing both?
A friend and resident for 40 years remembers driving south using OPR. I wonder if his memory is good?


The new graded roadbed (future paved road) south from Punta Estrella was built in 1982 and could be driven just a ways beyond La Roca, about to La Perlita/ Agua Azul de Acapulco and bulldozer clearing was progressing south.

Paving came several years later, around 1990... and was so thin that by 1999 it was well deteriorated.

My map in 1980, before the new road:



Here is my 1982 map showing both:



Jan. 1988:


Pavement progressed from the Hotel Fiesta to just beyond Punta Estrella (about where the Valle de los Gigantes is now)

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AAA Before and after:

1978:



1987:


(my notes on the progress south of Puertecitos on the new graded road)

1989:


(The incorrectly showed paving to Percebu)

1990:


(They corrected the mistake from 1989 map paving to Percebu)

1996:


(Pavement reached Puertecitos)

2000:


(Pavement already vanishing near Puertecitos)

2001:


(More pavement gone)

2003:



2004:



2007:


(Road repaved to Puertecitos)




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[*] posted on 5-25-2018 at 11:19 AM


The pavement to Puertecitos was completed in 1988. We ran the 1987 Baja 1000 which came out of Matomi wash onto the graded road. We ran the 1988 Baja 1000, same course, and when it came out of Matomi wash it was on new pavement. What a difference a year made but it was not to last since the pavement was so thin potholes soon developed.
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[*] posted on 5-25-2018 at 12:36 PM


Very cool! Thanks for sharing :light:
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Quote: Originally posted by TMW  
The pavement to Puertecitos was completed in 1988. We ran the 1987 Baja 1000 which came out of Matomi wash onto the graded road. We ran the 1988 Baja 1000, same course, and when it came out of Matomi wash it was on new pavement. What a difference a year made but it was not to last since the pavement was so thin potholes soon developed.


It must have been really thin, indeed... because in January of 1988 it was dirt just past Punta Estrella, 40 miles from Puertecitos.

As I recall, the (lazy) government person who issued the check to the paving contractor simply flew over it to see if it was done and never took any core samples to see if the correct amount of asphalt was used. He obviously also didn't see how the road vados were not regraded for pavement speed (Oh Sh!@ Dips)! I heard that contractor was jailed. Not sure what happened to the lazy government person??




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[*] posted on 5-25-2018 at 07:52 PM


There were places where the potholes were that the asphalt looked to be only 1/4 inch thick.
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