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[*] posted on 5-25-2018 at 09:50 PM


David all the maps on this thread have disappeared?
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[*] posted on 5-26-2018 at 07:20 AM


Try again Paul, as they are all here. Maybe it was s brief Internet hic up?



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[*] posted on 5-26-2018 at 08:18 AM


David, I find them "disappeared" too.



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[*] posted on 5-26-2018 at 08:27 AM


Right now? I am on my cell phone and everything is showing.



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[*] posted on 5-26-2018 at 08:49 AM


David, I can see the maps on this thread right now, but I just tried to view your trip report #2, and none of the photos come up for me!



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[*] posted on 5-26-2018 at 09:10 AM


Images are coming and going. When I try to reply with my discussion of a single map - nothing when I preview.
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Now no maps show up. Looks like a site problem???
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[*] posted on 5-26-2018 at 09:20 AM


Anyway without an image I have questions for David
* I really like your maps. How did you do your map making with all the mileage detail? Pretty accurate I might add.
* Regarding your '82? map that shows the detail of the Matomi area. I have had conversations with two old timers that said OPR entered Matomi from the north then went east to where hwy 5 is now then continued south. Then later this route was discontinued to become what you show in the '82 map for hwy 5. My question is there any thing older that can verify that route or is just fictional?
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[*] posted on 5-26-2018 at 09:48 AM


The server the images are on isn't responding, at least right now.

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100% packet loss on a ping.




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[*] posted on 5-26-2018 at 11:58 AM


The issue seems to have been resolved. I just tried the Trip report #2 thread again, and all the photos are there!



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[*] posted on 5-26-2018 at 02:24 PM


Quote: Originally posted by PaulW  
Anyway without an image I have questions for David
* I really like your maps. How did you do your map making with all the mileage detail? Pretty accurate I might add.
* Regarding your '82? map that shows the detail of the Matomi area. I have had conversations with two old timers that said OPR entered Matomi from the north then went east to where hwy 5 is now then continued south. Then later this route was discontinued to become what you show in the '82 map for hwy 5. My question is there any thing older that can verify that route or is just fictional?


Hi Paul, I am away for the weekend but may get some info to you. Not sure what OPR is, but I can tell you I first visited Matomí in 1978, in from the north and out to Puertecitos road in the arroyo. That was also the first year Score used Matomí for the 1000. It was difficult in the narrows but I still got my Subaru through. I have been back many times and it was easy in 2001 to 2006 as sand covered the boulders. Last year was the first time I couldn't pass through the narrows.

Edit: I have guessed OPR is Old Puertecitos Road. To answer you, it and the paved road are in the same location where it crossed Matomí. You can see the old maps from Gulick to the AAA maps to see. The terrain allows not much other option unless you move closer to the sea.

As for my hand drawn maps, well that is my passion... Baja maps and the area south of San Felipe is where I have spent most of my Baja life at. I drove the roads and recorded the mileage. I also drove the coast and recorded mileages and took sightings from various points to improve the accuracy. I was 25 in 1982 and began drawing maps of the area when I was 10, in 1967. I have posted them here on Nomad, too.

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[*] posted on 5-26-2018 at 02:28 PM


David, the pictures are 'disappearing" and "un-disappearing" when ever they feel like it. There must be an unknown reason for it.



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[*] posted on 5-26-2018 at 02:53 PM


Paul, another proof that OPR and Hwy. 5 are in the same location across the Matomí arroyo valley is in Gulick & Gerhard's 1962 Lower California Guidebook that describes Arroyo Matomí and the deep well just west of the road. That well is still just west of the highway. A ranch called San Rafael was there since the 1970s. Today it is called El Pozo, at km. 60.5.




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[*] posted on 5-26-2018 at 02:59 PM


Quote: Originally posted by BajaBill74  
David, the pictures are 'disappearing" and "un-disappearing" when ever they feel like it. There must be an unknown reason for it.


Thank you Bill... It must be a Photobucket Internet issue? Maybe if it continues to be a problem I will repost them using www.postimages.org?




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