BajaNomad
Not logged in [Login - Register]
Go To Bottom

Printable Version  
 Pages:  1    3
Author: Subject: Cordornices road
PaulW
Super Nomad
****




Posts: 1375
Registered: 5-21-2013
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 2-10-2018 at 02:31 PM
Cordornices road


Cordornices road
From Villa Jesus where we spent the night we drove to Santa Rosalillita, knocked on the door of a house by the basketball court and ask for breakfast. This lady used to operate a cafe there and she accommodated us. From there we headed northwest. Stopped at Punta el Diablo (A nice place to spend the night when camping). It is a major surfing place, also called El Cardon. Drove on the sand dunes. From there we took the Cordornices road. Along the way we stopped for lunch at the abandoned rancho - "San Antonio (Cordornices) (Ab)". Then back to Hwy 1. The trip leaders, Rich T., past trips required payment to pass thru the green fence gates of “Rancho Cordornices”. This time nobody was around. Stopped at the next rancho to renew leader’s friendships. Gave them some snack food. Anyway, the road is shown on the Almanac. We found some severe washouts, but had no issue driving around and thru them. Good trip with very little bushes to drive thru. Two short very steep sections requiring 4Lo near the top of the mountains. Best Cardon, Boojum, and barrel cactus forest we have ever seen. This road is a good one for a repeat.
Details: Exit going west toward Santa Rosillitia from Hwy1 at K38 find the place where we had breakfast at 28 40.1, -114 14.165
Begin the Cordornices road at 28 57.394, -114 32.06
find Rancho Cordornices 29 06.42, -114 30.763
Rancho San Antonio (ab) at 29 11.75606, -114 19.02191
Return to Hwy1 at k252
See the road on the Almanac
I might add this trip can be done in a long day from San Felipe with an optional overnight in LAB or camp at El Diablo.
This trail is relatively popular. Here is an example with pictures dated 2012
https://mexico.pueblosamerica.com/foto/rancho-codornices
The Inreach 10 minute track is shown below between leaving and returning to Highway 1



Attached is the GPS .USR file to allow the reader to make their own .GPX or Google Earth .KML file for viewing
Pictures will have to follow later.








Attachment: Cordornices Rd.usr (87kB)
This file has been downloaded 42 times

[Edited on 2-10-2018 by PaulW]

[Edited on 2-10-2018 by PaulW]
View user's profile
TMW
Select Nomad
*******




Posts: 9423
Registered: 9-1-2003
Location: Bakersfield, CA
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 2-10-2018 at 02:45 PM


Good to know, thanks Paul.
View user's profile
TMW
Select Nomad
*******




Posts: 9423
Registered: 9-1-2003
Location: Bakersfield, CA
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 2-10-2018 at 03:05 PM


Paul, I have R. San Antonio AB (Codornices) at 29-11.75x114-19.02.

There are a couple of adobe building ruins and several palm trees and a well. The last time I was there the palm trees had been burnt, but still standing.
View user's profile
Ateo
Elite Nomad
******


Avatar


Posts: 5492
Registered: 7-18-2011
Location: Oceanside
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 2-10-2018 at 03:12 PM


I wish I still owned a 4X4 truck.........



Headed South.
View user's profile
TMW
Select Nomad
*******




Posts: 9423
Registered: 9-1-2003
Location: Bakersfield, CA
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 2-10-2018 at 03:20 PM


Only real men drive 4x4s, so disapointing.
View user's profile
Ateo
Elite Nomad
******


Avatar


Posts: 5492
Registered: 7-18-2011
Location: Oceanside
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 2-10-2018 at 03:28 PM


The divorce ate my 4X4. =(



Headed South.
View user's profile
David K
Honored Nomad
*********


Avatar


Posts: 53640
Registered: 8-30-2002
Location: San Diego County
Member Is Offline

Mood: Have Baja Fever

[*] posted on 2-10-2018 at 03:29 PM


This is the road I traveled last year and rescued the couple at Rancho Miseria whose Ranger truck was broken down at the bottom of the long 4WD grade. They were out of food and meds. Photos of the beautiful cactus Paul mentions, as well. It was my Trip #4 report.



"So Much Baja, So Little Time..."

A Baja Missions History book, updated in 2018: http://oldmissions.com

My (over 50) Baja Bound Travel Adventure articles: https://www.bajabound.com/bajaadventures/bajatravel/

My Baja web site, to help you plan your adventure: http://VivaBaja.com

My 2018 Maps: http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=88771
View user's profile Visit user's homepage
woody with a view
PITA Nomad
********




Posts: 15877
Registered: 11-8-2004
Location: Looking at the Coronado Islands
Member Is Offline

Mood: Everchangin'

[*] posted on 2-10-2018 at 03:29 PM


Word!



View user's profile
MulegeAL
Nomad
**




Posts: 228
Registered: 8-25-2009
Location: PDX/Mulege
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 2-10-2018 at 03:36 PM


Paul,
Thanks for that! Did that climb years ago on a bike, was tough climb to the top mesa.

And that cactus forest section is one of the best anywhere, even though it poked holes in my armor! I remember the old adobe at San Antonio too, date palms, doves and some water.

Was really glad to get out to the highway without damage or a flat.

Hope to do it again but maybe north to south this time
View user's profile
TMW
Select Nomad
*******




Posts: 9423
Registered: 9-1-2003
Location: Bakersfield, CA
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 2-10-2018 at 03:44 PM


Quote: Originally posted by Ateo  
The divorce ate my 4X4. =(


Sorry about that. Hang in there and you'll get one again.
View user's profile
PaulW
Super Nomad
****




Posts: 1375
Registered: 5-21-2013
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 2-10-2018 at 04:00 PM


We were told the summit route was rebuilt due to flooding and supposedly is easier not, but steep.
Yes, real nice drive.
====

Quote: Originally posted by MulegeAL  
Paul,
Thanks for that! Did that climb years ago on a bike, was tough climb to the top mesa.

And that cactus forest section is one of the best anywhere, even though it poked holes in my armor! I remember the old adobe at San Antonio too, date palms, doves and some water.

Was really glad to get out to the highway without damage or a flat.

Hope to do it again but maybe north to south this time
View user's profile
JZ
Ultra Nomad
*****


Avatar


Posts: 2490
Registered: 10-3-2003
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 2-10-2018 at 04:20 PM


Rode down that way with my 13yo and 15yo last year. We went down near Cativina and along the coast to Santa Rosalillita. Blew right by the turn back up to Hwy 1 (Cordornices).

I want to go back and ride it now.




[Edited on 2-11-2018 by BajaNomad]
View user's profile
PaulW
Super Nomad
****




Posts: 1375
Registered: 5-21-2013
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 2-10-2018 at 04:23 PM


Thanks Tom,
My second edit fixed my error.



=========
Quote: Originally posted by TMW  
Paul, I have R. San Antonio AB (Codornices) at 29-11.75x114-19.02.

There are a couple of adobe building ruins and several palm trees and a well. The last time I was there the palm trees had been burnt, but still standing.
View user's profile
David K
Honored Nomad
*********


Avatar


Posts: 53640
Registered: 8-30-2002
Location: San Diego County
Member Is Offline

Mood: Have Baja Fever

[*] posted on 2-10-2018 at 04:38 PM


Because of the new interest in this road... here is what I have to share:







I accessed it from Km. 270+ and there were almost immediately some very attractive boojum trees.

From April 2017:

Of the several roads across Baja from Highway 1 down the center to the Pacific coast, the Rancho San Antonio road may be the scariest to do solo!
I was glad I had an inReach communicator so I could contact my friends who offered to come help or coordinate help if needed. I can send or receive short text or email messages which help the day go by. My evening chats with Baja Angel (my wife Elizabeth) are comforting and make my being away so far not so bad.

The difference between the inReach and the Spot device is the 2-way communicating. Right now, I am getting Spot locations for TW, I can't ask him what he is up to or where he wants to go. I only see where he is and an I'm OK message.

I leave the highway at Km. 270.5, I drop the air pressure in my tires to 24 psi. It is 3:15pm. I will just go to where I find a camp spot or do a night drive in order to give my new LED lamps a workout!


A welcoming boojum tree!


Fresh green coat on this tall one.


It is 9.3 slow miles on this short cut road to the one that is on most maps, 11 miles south of Chapala to San Antonio and Bahía Blanco.


From a high point, looking back at the road I was just on.






It's like Dr. Seuss must have visited Baja this far south?




Some neat cardón trees in here, too!


Semi-abandoned ranch down on the left, 1.2 miles west of the junction with the two choices to Hwy. 1. The one I used from Km. 270.5 or the mapped one from Km. 252.


I am seeing fewer tire tracks and more animal tracks.


An oasis is a mile past the ranch. Soon a dam and reservoir are in the gully below. Another oasis is in the distance, but the road I am on turns away from it before I am motivated to drive to it on a very unused track I saw. That would be the true Rancho San Antonio (Formerly 'Los Codornices'). It was 4:18 pm.

Some have called it a mission because of the old adobe building and graves. Alas, this site was both far removed from the mission road system (El Camino Real) and void of any farmland to grow enough food upon. It was strictly a cattle ranch.









The big grade!


A dozer was obviously employed to improve the old ranch road, but the road has eroded away any fill dirt leaving gullies and landslides. I didn't stop to photo the worst.


Going down, down, down. My big concern was what if I came to an impassable gully or boulder?


There was one boulder in the road, but I could get around it. Near the bottom was this huge one. Just one more grade ahead and it had the most interesting blockage... a Ford Ranger. I just got by it by an inch between the mirrors. It was 5:18 pm and I was 9 miles from San Antonio and just 3/4 mile from the bottom of this big bad set of grades.


Nice drive through a cardónal before reaching the roadblock and help sign!

Details in the next installment... This Sunday will be a long night!



[Edited on 2-10-2018 by David K]




"So Much Baja, So Little Time..."

A Baja Missions History book, updated in 2018: http://oldmissions.com

My (over 50) Baja Bound Travel Adventure articles: https://www.bajabound.com/bajaadventures/bajatravel/

My Baja web site, to help you plan your adventure: http://VivaBaja.com

My 2018 Maps: http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=88771
View user's profile Visit user's homepage
PaulW
Super Nomad
****




Posts: 1375
Registered: 5-21-2013
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 2-10-2018 at 04:43 PM


Good pics
View user's profile
David K
Honored Nomad
*********


Avatar


Posts: 53640
Registered: 8-30-2002
Location: San Diego County
Member Is Offline

Mood: Have Baja Fever

[*] posted on 2-10-2018 at 04:50 PM


Thanks Paul... So, did you bypass La Miseria (see my map of the parallel roads there) or see it up close? It has a pool and hot tub... very unusual for the area!
I would be curious of what happened to the caretaker couple I evacuated from there!




"So Much Baja, So Little Time..."

A Baja Missions History book, updated in 2018: http://oldmissions.com

My (over 50) Baja Bound Travel Adventure articles: https://www.bajabound.com/bajaadventures/bajatravel/

My Baja web site, to help you plan your adventure: http://VivaBaja.com

My 2018 Maps: http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=88771
View user's profile Visit user's homepage
PaulW
Super Nomad
****




Posts: 1375
Registered: 5-21-2013
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 2-10-2018 at 05:22 PM


The road skirts all the buildings When going north we were on the right side of the valley. Then we did a U turn around the washout and continued northerly. We could see the ranch buildings on the other side of the valley. Green fence gate at each end of the ranch property.
View user's profile
PaulW
Super Nomad
****




Posts: 1375
Registered: 5-21-2013
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 2-10-2018 at 05:27 PM


The map we use in San Felipe – Hand drawn from many sources
Many new names to digest


View user's profile
woody with a view
PITA Nomad
********




Posts: 15877
Registered: 11-8-2004
Location: Looking at the Coronado Islands
Member Is Offline

Mood: Everchangin'

[*] posted on 2-10-2018 at 05:37 PM


No straight lines in nature! Water trough and if you see these you are on the right trail.

rsz_100_6473.jpg - 238kBrsz_100_6469.jpg - 165kB




View user's profile
advrider
Nomad
**




Posts: 317
Registered: 10-2-2015
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 2-10-2018 at 07:42 PM


Will be ridding that on motos next month from El Rosario to the mission to Bola, never ridden that are before and I'm really looking forward to it! Dose anyone know if there is gas once we hit the highway of is it all the way back to the BOLA turn off for barrel gas? We might be close just not sure?

[Edited on 2-11-2018 by advrider]
View user's profile
 Pages:  1    3

  Go To Top

 






All Content Copyright � 1997- Q87 International; All Rights Reserved.
Powered by XMB; XMB Forum Software © 2001-2014 The XMB Group�






"If it were lush and rich, one could understand the pull, but it is fierce and hostile and sullen. The stone mountains pile up to the sky and there is little fresh water. But we know we must go back if we live, and we don't know why." - Steinbeck, Log from the Sea of Cortez

"People don't care how much you know, until they know how much you care." - Ivan R. Misner, Ph.D

"You can easily judge the character of others by how they treat those who they think can do nothing for them or to them." - Malcolm Forbes

"Let others lead small lives, but not you. Let others argue over small things, but not you. Let others cry over small hurts, but not you. Let others leave their future in someone else's hands, but not you." - Jim Rohn







Thank you to Baja Bound Mexico Insurance Services for your long-term support of the BajaNomad.com Forums site.







Emergency Baja Contacts Include:

Desert Hawks; El Rosario-based ambulance transport; Emergency #: (616) 103-0262