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[*] posted on 3-12-2018 at 02:17 PM


In Oregon, where attendants must pump your gas according to an arcane pointless law, I have never seen someone tip an attendant for standard service. The only occasions where I've seen a tip at a gas station is when the attendant does something above and beyond 'usual' - puts a quart of oil in a senior's car, helps someone secure a trailered item, etc.

The last couple trips to Mexico, I've noticed more and more of the new Pemex pumps which allow for pre-set amounts. The attendants dial in 500p and the pump dispenses exactly that amount. The attendant presses the button, walks away, and comes back when it's done.

Makes it a little more difficult to tell them to stop it at, say, 480p for the remainder to be left as a tip.
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[*] posted on 3-12-2018 at 03:08 PM


Tipping should be whatever the local customs are.

Just because you are from the USA doesn't necessarily mean you should
bring you're customs to where ever you go.

Some places it's rude to tip. Others the tip is priced into the bill.

Tipping when you shouldn't and tipping TOO much is one reason other cultures start seeing you as a walking ATM machine....

I research where I go and tip according to the local custom, that way you can't go wrong.

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[*] posted on 3-12-2018 at 03:50 PM


Quote: Originally posted by Paco Facullo  
Tipping should be whatever the local customs are.

Just because you are from the USA doesn't necessarily mean you should
bring you're customs to where ever you go.

Some places it's rude to tip. Others the tip is priced into the bill.

Tipping when you shouldn't and tipping TOO much is one reason other cultures start seeing you as a walking ATM machine....

I research where I go and tip according to the local custom, that way you can't go wrong.



Intersting point... when dining with Mexican national friends I would get schooled about tipping so much (20%+ when service and food are great). Their rule I heard never exceeds 10%.
I am on vacation when in Mexico (usually). The eating experience is part of the vacation and if they make it an event to remember, and the food is so inexpensive, I really want to show them I appreciate it. When I got a full course seafood dinner and the bill is only $6 (places like Papa Fernandez' in Gonzaga Bay and Ramona's in Santa Rosalillita) then I will leave $10... actually in pesos, but you get my drift. These places are usually staffed by family members... mama or grandmama is in the kitchen and sisters or daughters are waiting the tables.




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[*] posted on 3-12-2018 at 04:04 PM


my rule of thumb is there's no such thing as over tipping, if I leave a 300 peso tip on a 200 peso bill...and its often tied to my consumption:P,the staff may see a buck apiece. I haven't heard any complaints as of yet.

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[*] posted on 3-12-2018 at 04:09 PM


Ya, I can't say I always fallow this.

I do get quite generous, especially when the libations and good times are flowing .....
Usually food is included in the equation somewhere...
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[*] posted on 3-19-2018 at 10:19 AM


Quote: Originally posted by chavycha  
In Oregon, where attendants must pump …

In Mexico, on the other hand, it's been an ancient tradition that people who work in more informal service jobs do so for tips only. This sort of employment violates Article 123 of the Constitution but the alternative would be to refuse any sort of gainful employment to those people most in need.

This custom has been changing slowly within our lifetime as the SAT (Mexican IRS) has been regulating more and more of the informal jobs. At this point it's probably safe to say…
(1) these people still draw no salaries at all: grocery-store baggers, car-wash attendants, waiters in red-light districts, restroom attendants, and some people who hustle tourists for a living;
(2) these people might or still might not be receiving some small compensation from the business they work for: gasoline-station attendants, pizza/sushi deliverers, barbers and beauticians, valet-parking attendants, and anyone who hustles tourists for a living.

The economic future of gasoline-station attendants looks bleak to me. Large corporations now own most of the stations (even British Petroleum is in the game!), so their accountants are making sure everything is all regulated and formalized, but at the same time they've been cutting costs by putting a single employee behind a pane of bulletproof glass and telling their customers to pump their own gas. What we're likely to see soon is an extremely informal window-washing service along the lines of that helpful fellow who offers to watch your car for you and to make sure the parking meter doesn't run out while you're away.
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[*] posted on 3-19-2018 at 11:10 AM


Quote: Originally posted by David K  
when dining with Mexican national friends * * * Their rule I heard never exceeds 10%.

Restaurant tipping is a trickier subject than the gas-station question.

In working-class Mexico, the tradition runs along the lines of a pourboire or "keep the change" while the upper class continues to do whatever it wants to do (sometimes nothing, sometimes ridiculously enormous amounts). Meanwhile, the middle class, which has been developing only fitfully, looks northward for guidance and says amongst themselves "we should do whatever the gringos do because they've been doing it longer".

So now why ten percent? Because that's the Mexican fifteen percent, which used to be standard in the US once upon a time. By law in Mexico your bill is supposed to include sales tax (IVA) while in the US the tip is calculated pre-tax. IVA is sixteen percent, which is a bit much. So a ten-percent tip on a Mexican tab is more or less the same as fifteen percent on a gringo tab.

Lately, though, there's been a lot of propaganda in social media, from the US restaurateurs' lobby, to increase the standard tip to twenty percent (in an effort to keep their labor costs down), and that has been translated into a fifteen-percent tip for Mexico.

The attached example of restaurant tipping comes from a Mexican smartphone app that allows smaller businesses to accept bank cards. It offers the customer the options of adding high, medium, and low tip percentages as well as a fourth DIY amount.

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[*] posted on 3-19-2018 at 12:51 PM


10% is a standard tip for a meal in MX. 20% in the US.

Ppl who don't tip at gas stations in MX have no business going there. Even the poor locals tip.

I tip very little in Europe and Asia, as it's not the custom there.


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[*] posted on 3-19-2018 at 01:12 PM


The 20% or whatever tip here is not before tax... who does that? We look at the bottom line to figure tip amounts.



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[*] posted on 3-21-2018 at 03:58 AM


if I get ripped off good by the pump I tip more. if the service worker is lazy I tip more. 500 pesos seems about right for poor service. my social security check is more than enough to cover it. getting crappy service and gouged in mexico is one of my favorite things to do it makes it interesting. if you have to worry or wonder what to tip you screwed up your life big time. I once gave one of my workers a 2000 peso just for being first to arrive at the job each day. made him so happy, that smile on his face as he ran to stash it away was worth as much as the feelin of hookin a nice fish and getting it in the boat. I think cheap people are cheap because some how life screwed them over, attitude is everything. if you have that bad attitude toward things in life then your probabally that cheap gringo who doesn,t tip.
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[*] posted on 3-21-2018 at 06:34 AM


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