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[*] posted on 3-29-2018 at 09:35 PM


I rode my 450 KTM in there about 6 years ago...solo....decided not to go down the widowmaker....hiked the rest....

I would be bummed to find all those campers....and trucks....as the prize.....:o

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[*] posted on 3-30-2018 at 08:27 AM


Quote: Originally posted by motoged  
I rode my 450 KTM in there about 6 years ago...solo....decided not to go down the widowmaker....hiked the rest....

I would be bummed to find all those campers....and trucks....as the prize.....:o

Thanks for the pics :coolup:
Why be bummed at the campers and trucks. If you rode your bike all the way in they could help you push it out JAAAA. Just kidding if you where alone maybe good idea. Last time there was: 4 of us on motos only two of us rode out. The other two riders the bikes made it, but no rider on the bike.:)
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[*] posted on 3-30-2018 at 08:34 AM


In 2003, when two other Nomad families joined my daughter and me in driving to Mission Santa Maria and camping two nights there, a huge Gringo Jeep club arrived after dark and for the next couple of hours flowed in one after the other... They camped at the palms east of the mission, where we were enjoying the campfire. After a quick look at the mission church, they all headed back out the following morning. There must have been two dozen Jeeps!?
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[*] posted on 3-30-2018 at 08:56 AM


OK, finally got to take a relaxing look and read the full story.
Thank you, Emerson!

I am glad to read that the drive is as tough as it always has been since my first trip there in 1999.
That the BOG was not full of water (as it was for our group in 2010) was amazing and lucky!

To emphasize what you wrote, lockers or a traction system like Toyota's A-TRAC or Multi-Terrain-Select is a must and 2WD-only will be tragic, as Issac illustrated with his Chevy!

That cliff drop-off between the mission and the arroyo, going east, is the most challenging and good that you had a front locker to climb that final step!

Will you attempt to hike El Camino Real from the Gonzaga side again? Like me, you got about 2/3 there when you ran out of daylight, as I recall from that trip report? That hike is brutal and even tougher if done on a motorcycle as we recently saw on YouTube.

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[*] posted on 3-30-2018 at 09:21 AM


Quote: Originally posted by bajatrailrider  
...... Why be bummed at the campers and trucks. If you rode your bike all the way in they could help you push it out JAAAA. Just kidding if you where alone maybe good idea. Last time there was: 4 of us on motos only two of us rode out. The other two riders the bikes made it, but no rider on the bike.:)


Well....not a serious bummer, eh?! :coolup:

Ralph intercepted me near the goat corral on my way to the trail and cautioned me about solo riding, mentioning other rider issues such as yours. I tend to ride with safety in mind as majority of my Baja riding is solo....when not breaking bones in silt beds (DTbushpilot can't get enough pics of that...:biggrin: )...





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Quote: Originally posted by motoged  
Quote: Originally posted by bajatrailrider  
...... Why be bummed at the campers and trucks. If you rode your bike all the way in they could help you push it out JAAAA. Just kidding if you where alone maybe good idea. Last time there was: 4 of us on motos only two of us rode out. The other two riders the bikes made it, but no rider on the bike.:)


Well....not a serious bummer, eh?! :coolup:

Ralph intercepted me near the goat corral on my way to the trail and cautioned me about solo riding, mentioning other rider issues such as yours. I tend to ride with safety in mind as majority of my Baja riding is solo....when not breaking bones in silt beds (DTbushpilot can't get enough pics of that...:biggrin: )...

I hear you on solo ride you did right thing. Many years on Honda factory Xr650 first time hit slit . Bike sucked down 2 feet hit rock Dead stop. Slit passed filter throttle wide open. Got me and bike going again with small can WD40. Then asked my Teacher on ride How to ride slit. He said simple go around it dummy:bounce: Riding out of the Mission up that nasty place on a Xr650 with 5 gal tank 3 pack packs handful. Last time on my small light bike easy. Want to return but not liking the motels there.
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[*] posted on 3-30-2018 at 02:51 PM


sad to see crowds in the back country :( I prefer to see people backpack or offroad in small groups. Caravans? Ruins the solitude!
and steamed to see ignoramuses camping in a crowd inches from the water :fire:
who would want to camp so close with tents inches apart? and have to listen to a dozen people snore all night? yikes!


the water sources are important for wildlife. if camping, set back a couple hundred yards and let the wildlife have water. your visit will even more enjoyable if you allow the wildlife to be. Camp too close to the water, and wildlife will just stay away and you wont see them.




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[*] posted on 4-1-2018 at 08:40 PM


The trail sounds much more challenging than when I drove part of it in May 2011. The part about the pickup truck driver walking back to Cataviña was interesting! One of the Londos from Tierra Del Sol 4WD club walked beside the 10 or so Jeeps as the rest of us drove in 2007! I am planning an early 2019 run. It's a great trail that sounds as if it has gotten more challenging over the past several years.



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[*] posted on 4-1-2018 at 09:54 PM


like all difficult trails that see a lot of visitors this one got more "difficult". Like Moab, like Rubicon etc.
It is because the visitors are driving the caca out of it. The only reason trails/roads get more difficult, is because they get torn up by bad drivers. Most drivers are bad drivers.
I have some basic experience of 30 years on rough terrain. It is amazing when you see what people think is the right way.
And don't bring the nature does it story.




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[*] posted on 4-2-2018 at 08:41 AM


This time cant agree with you on Nature does it story. I have been off road and dirt bikes over 50 years. After heavy rain many roads gone to any 4x4. Even our dirt bikes can have a tuff time to go past wash outs. You are correct more 4x4s make route more difficult. Some rigs are not set up as nice as your MB go any where rig. I was impressed with yours on Pole line trip.
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[*] posted on 4-2-2018 at 09:53 AM


Spinning tires are the worst (other than rain) on roads!
1) Lower tire pressure
2) Use low range
3) Use traction control or lockers
DON'T SPIN TIRES... CRAWL... it saves the parts, too!




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Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Spinning tires are the worst (other than rain) on roads!
1) Lower tire pressure
2) Use low range
3) Use traction control or lockers
DON'T SPIN TIRES... CRAWL... it saves the parts, too!


In a best case scenario, you have a set of tire deflators and air compressor, properly functioning low range transfer case, your vehicle has locking differentials, and mud-terrain tires with 5/32nds or more of tread.

The vehicles that I have witnessed having trouble leaving the trail (Mission Impossible) didn't have locking differentials, moderately acceptable all terrain tires, broken steering components, and were being pulled by a simple tow rope with metal hooks on both ends (hazardous at best/deadly at worst).

Whenever I tackle the simplest of trail, I always pack quality yank straps into my Jeep. Yes, more than one.:light:




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