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[*] posted on 4-8-2018 at 04:39 PM


the salt flats are called Salina de Trinidad, and there are two nice sandy beaches, between the salina and Los Corrales.
the Rancho San Miguel buildings have been already restored, and the next project would be the nice single block building with the stain glass windows closer to the beach, to be restore to its former beauty.
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[*] posted on 4-8-2018 at 04:56 PM


very nice beach north of Casona San Miguel (the big house)
south of Punta La Langostera

28.138060°, -112.811546°

Playa el Almirante (south of Los Corrales) is a super nice beach
soft white sand
27.954980°, -112.761994°

[Edited on 4-9-2018 by 4x4abc]

[Edited on 4-9-2018 by 4x4abc]




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[*] posted on 4-8-2018 at 05:09 PM


Playa La Palmita is another great beach with soft sand in the area
27.844720°, -112.753397°
North wind can render it useless some days




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[*] posted on 4-8-2018 at 05:19 PM


Thanks, Karl and Harald for confirming there is a nice beach in that region.
I think the beach Roy was describing is this one?:
Playa el Almirante (south of Los Corrales) is a super nice beach
soft white sand
27.954980°, -112.761994°

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[*] posted on 4-8-2018 at 05:51 PM


Quote: Originally posted by Fernweh  
the salt flats are called Salina de Trinidad, and there are two nice sandy beaches, between the salina and Los Corrales.
the Rancho San Miguel buildings have been already restored, and the next project would be the nice single block building with the stain glass windows closer to the beach, to be restore to its former beauty.

Yes, Salina de Trinidad is the one I was talking about. One beach is about 1 mile North of Salina. Well, at least, there is no development next to this beach yet. And there is one more beach closer to Salina, maybe half a mile from Salina. It has a small islet called Isla Lobera - there were indeed sea lions on that rock - but the beach is gravel. It gets sandy farther inland, towards the road (and dirtier too).
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[*] posted on 4-8-2018 at 06:07 PM


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[*] posted on 4-8-2018 at 06:38 PM


Quote: Originally posted by David K  

Playa el Almirante (south of Los Corrales) is a super nice beach
soft white sand
27.954980°, -112.761994°

Yes.
N27.55' (55 minutes) or decimal 27.92 degrees. Mas o menos. I used to call it "mosquito beach" :), mucho no-seems. Punta Almirante is good few miles North, but I guess they could call it Playa el Almirante.
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[*] posted on 4-8-2018 at 07:39 PM


Punta Almirante and Playa Almirante are tied together

a nice beach close to there (just 2 miles south) is San Barnabe (Consag named it)
we call it Lobster Bay, because the rocks are full of lobster
27.921525°, -112.763085°




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[*] posted on 4-8-2018 at 07:53 PM


Here are some pictures I took on the various trips I made along the coast. Before the rock corral you had to get on a sandy beach and drive for a while.


In front of the corral

Further south

South end of the salt flats looking toward the SOC

I'm not sure where the next set of pictures were taken along the coast




I think this picture was taken after the turn west away from the coast and then back to the coast at 27-56.16x112-46.10 or a little further south.


To the north of the last picture the trail turns west into an arroyo at a sandy beach section for a short distance then climbs upon a flat area to a road going west. That maybe a nice sandy beach at 27-57.12x112-45.82.
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Quote: Originally posted by TMW  

I'm not sure where the next set of pictures were taken along the coast

The very next photo is where the map says "Corrales". North side of the Bahia Juan Bautista, close to Punta Bautista. North of parallel 28. This is evening but it doesn't look much nicer in midday. Not my idea of a nice beach, - let them have this hotel there ;) ...

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That maybe a nice sandy beach at 27-57.12x112-45.82.

Looks like the one. The stick on the right is the remainder of barbed wire fence that was there for some reason, years ago.

I don't remember it being tied to Punta Almirante, but some other cove to the North could be. It's been a while since I camped there.
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[*] posted on 4-9-2018 at 11:37 AM


Back in 2011 or about that time frame Nomad Fernweh did the NWT and also the area past R. San Miguel to the northeast and the stone house.
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[*] posted on 4-9-2018 at 06:20 PM


Trophy hunting is bad. Trophy hunters are bad. Trophy hunting money is blood money. It is sad to hear of Baja turning to killing threatened species to make a buck.

I am sure only pennies will go to conservation.

Yuck.

Hope the first plane landing at that strip crashes. Hoping for some karmic equalization.




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Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  
Trophy hunting is bad. Trophy hunters are bad. Trophy hunting money is blood money. It is sad to hear of Baja turning to killing threatened species to make a buck.

I am sure only pennies will go to conservation.

Yuck.

Hope the first plane landing at that strip crashes. Hoping for some karmic equalization.


To condem a sheep being shot and eaten is fine but to then wish death to people in the same post is really sick, is it not?




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[*] posted on 4-9-2018 at 06:55 PM


Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  
Trophy hunting is bad. Trophy hunters are bad. Trophy hunting money is blood money. It is sad to hear of Baja turning to killing threatened species to make a buck.

I am sure only pennies will go to conservation.

Yuck.

Hope the first plane landing at that strip crashes. Hoping for some karmic equalization.


To condem a sheep being shot and eaten is fine but to then wish death to people in the same post is really sick, is it not?


Quite Healthy. A trophy hunter dieing while trophy hunting is the ultimate underdog win. As long as hunters call hunting “sport” I will root for the animal, and cheer when the animal wins, and cheer loudest when the animal wins the ultimate fight with death of the hunter.

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[*] posted on 4-9-2018 at 08:40 PM


You hoped the plane crashes, not just a hunter. A wife, children, others will be in a plane.
Edit: Husband or wife, as women are hunters too!

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[*] posted on 4-9-2018 at 08:49 PM


And, ignorance knows no bounds in the in the uneducated or unwilling to learn.

The retort is always the same- use labels and names in an effort to divert the inability to have supporting argument of your position based on facts and science.

Again, if you have any scientific facts to back up your position let us hear them. Otherwise, all you have is ignorant name calling and labels with no factual support, like whistling in the wind.

Its really tiring to try and have an honest debate when the other side only uses emotion to debate with.

I gave three sources for study on the conservation aspects of current "sport" hunting in the world today. Am I to presume you availed yourself of those sources to increase your knowledge base on the subject?

By your counter point, I am suspect if you did.




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Quote: Originally posted by Cliffy  
And, ignorance knows no bounds in the in the uneducated or unwilling to learn.

The retort is always the same- use labels and names in an effort to divert the inability to have supporting argument of your position based on facts and science.

Again, if you have any scientific facts to back up your position let us hear them. Otherwise, all you have is ignorant name calling and labels with no factual support, like whistling in the wind.

Its really tiring to try and have an honest debate when the other side only uses emotion to debate with.

I gave three sources for study on the conservation aspects of current "sport" hunting in the world today. Am I to presume you availed yourself of those sources to increase your knowledge base on the subject?

By your counter point, I am suspect if you did.


Trophy killing an endangered species because it’s good for the species and supports the local peasants,... poppyc-ck! When hunters resort to fake science to support their, cruelty, inhumanity and bloodlust, I am disgusted.




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Quote: Originally posted by David K  
You hoped the plane crashes, not just a hunter. A wife, children, others will be in a plane.
Edit: Husband or wife, as women are hunters too!

[Edited on 4-10-2018 by David K]


The wives were foolish to marry sadists. And the kids? Better to remove the sadism genes from the gene pool :lol:




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[*] posted on 4-9-2018 at 09:42 PM


Some people live in a world of their own making- some certified and some not yet certified.

Debating with ignorance has no future.




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[*] posted on 4-10-2018 at 08:03 AM


The Tres Virgenes eco-lodge has quite a collection of pictures on their walls of hunters and their trophies.

Just saying as I'm not a hunter and don't see the appeal. (Except maybe for fish :) )

Sorry to see NWT fenced off though.
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