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[*] posted on 5-10-2018 at 06:59 PM
How to I make my 3/4 ton Silverado ride better on dirt roads


Put King shocks on last year. Air down from 60 to 30-35. Huge difference.

Everything else is stock. What else should I think about doing?


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[*] posted on 5-10-2018 at 07:10 PM


I went with Bilsteins, but do not know that they are better than Kings. So far, so good. I do go as low as 22 PSI depending on how much weight I am carrying. That makes a huge difference in ride, but probably shortens tire life. :?:
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[*] posted on 5-10-2018 at 07:26 PM


GO faster!!
Faster you go, the smoother the ride
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[*] posted on 5-10-2018 at 07:37 PM


Quote: Originally posted by basautter  
I went with Bilsteins, but do not know that they are better than Kings. So far, so good. I do go as low as 22 PSI depending on how much weight I am carrying. That makes a huge difference in ride, but probably shortens tire life. :?:


E load tires? What's your highway PSI?




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[*] posted on 5-10-2018 at 07:37 PM


A pickup has stiff springs over the rear axle. 3/4 ton springs are even more problematic. The rear end is light and bounces around on dirt roads. That also reduces traction, especially on washboards. Extra weight in the bed will help. Maybe try lashing a few hundred pounds of sandbags in the rear of the bed.

How is your stopping power on dirt roads? ABS makes some vehicles dangerously difficult to stop. Seems that my 1-ton van takes 2x to 3x the distance under some off-road conditions. Pulling the ABS fuse solves that.
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[*] posted on 5-10-2018 at 08:51 PM


A full size PU is supposed to be rough, thats why it can carry a load.

If you wanted an SUV-like ride, you shoulda bought an suv




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[*] posted on 5-10-2018 at 09:18 PM


How much money do you want to spend?
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[*] posted on 5-10-2018 at 10:20 PM


Quote: Originally posted by TMW  
How much money do you want to spend?


Nothing crazy. It rides pretty good now.

Just wondering if there is low hanging fruit to make it better.





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[*] posted on 5-11-2018 at 01:51 PM


Quote: Originally posted by Maderita  
A pickup has stiff springs over the rear axle. 3/4 ton springs are even more problematic. The rear end is light and bounces around on dirt roads. That also reduces traction, especially on washboards. Extra weight in the bed will help. Maybe try lashing a few hundred pounds of sandbags in the rear of the bed.

How is your stopping power on dirt roads? ABS makes some vehicles dangerously difficult to stop. Seems that my 1-ton van takes 2x to 3x the distance under some off-road conditions. Pulling the ABS fuse solves that.


GM trucks and SUVs are easy to disconnect the ABS system unless GM has changed their brake systems in the last few years. There is a 10 amp fuse on the drivers side panel and a 60 amp fuse in the engine compartment. Either will disconnect the ABS system, however it is best to pull the 60 amp fuse because the 10 amp controls the portioning valve. Both the brake and ABS warning lights will be on, I don't recall if one or both flash. You'll also get a warning buzzer/bell that will turn off after a while.
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[*] posted on 5-11-2018 at 01:53 PM


JZ do you have torsion bars or coil springs in the front? Also you could try dropping the air to 25 lbs. What size tires do you have?
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[*] posted on 5-11-2018 at 04:58 PM


Buy a whoopee-cushion. Makes the ride more pleasant and fun to listen to as well, especially on the potholes (pun intended). :biggrin:




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[*] posted on 5-11-2018 at 05:44 PM


The is a kit. At one end the spring, a new bracket is installed that has a polymer spring The polymer is sandwitched between brackets. One bracket bolts to the frame, the other to the spring. It adds softness to the ride and actually adds about and inch to the travel. When the soft ride hits it's stop the leaf kicks in.
I well put them on my F350 eventually.
The freeway chop kills me in this thing. It should take out that kind of stuff in the dirt too.




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[*] posted on 5-11-2018 at 05:54 PM


Quote: Originally posted by TMW  
JZ do you have torsion bars or coil springs in the front? Also you could try dropping the air to 25 lbs. What size tires do you have?


Torsion. It's a 2015 Silverado 2500HD.





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[*] posted on 5-11-2018 at 05:59 PM


Some ppl have said upgraded UCAs will help improve travel.

Someone educate me.




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[*] posted on 5-11-2018 at 07:06 PM


Quote: Originally posted by TMW  
JZ do you have torsion bars or coil springs in the front? Also you could try dropping the air to 25 lbs. What size tires do you have?


Buy smallest wheels and get the largest tires, now you can drop the air, and have a smooth safe ride.
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[*] posted on 5-11-2018 at 08:12 PM


https://norcaltruck.com/chevy-gmc-2011-sulastic-shackles

This may be what fishbuck was trying to say.
I have heard good things.

I have thought about it but $400 is a bit much.
Let some more air out, it's free.
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[*] posted on 5-11-2018 at 08:21 PM


Quote: Originally posted by msteve1014  
https://norcaltruck.com/chevy-gmc-2011-sulastic-shackles

This may be what fishbuck was trying to say.
I have heard good things.

I have thought about it but $400 is a bit much.
Let some more air out, it's free.


Truck runs beautifully down the highway. Very smooth.


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[*] posted on 5-12-2018 at 07:40 AM


What ever you do don't put Rancho shocks on it. The stock shocks will give you best ride. I like the idea of the soft lift cushions mentioned by Fishbuck, that does sound like your best option, other than going faster and faster down the roads. Again, don't put Rancho's on anything. They have ZERO rebound control and they should have been sued to oblivion years ago. Their multiple control shocks are multiple ways to have a crappy ride.
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[*] posted on 5-12-2018 at 08:02 AM


Quote: Originally posted by JZ  
Put King shocks on last year. Air down from 60 to 30-35. Huge difference.

Everything else is stock. What else should I think about doing?

[Edited on 5-11-2018 by JZ]

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You are already at the low tire pressures. With Kings re-valving is probably the next choice. Lower spring rate may not be a wise choice due to lower load capacity, but if you don't need the design load the softer springs would help.
My last rig I went with lower spring rates hydraulic bumps and shocks re-valved to softer setting. Made me happy. Very expensive and I had to have a pro off road shop figure it out.
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[*] posted on 5-12-2018 at 09:19 AM


Quote: Originally posted by Timinator  
What ever you do don't put Rancho shocks on it. The stock shocks will give you best ride. I like the idea of the soft lift cushions mentioned by Fishbuck, that does sound like your best option, other than going faster and faster down the roads. Again, don't put Rancho's on anything. They have ZERO rebound control and they should have been sued to oblivion years ago. Their multiple control shocks are multiple ways to have a crappy ride.
Stock shocks you are kidding of course.:)
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