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SFandH
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Quote: Originally posted by TMW  | | Even with solar and wind for electric power you still need gas, coal, thermo or nuclear powered plants as backup in a standby mode.
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Yeah, especially at night when there's no wind!! 
I think all of BCS is diesel motor generators now, except for the small amount of solar and geothermal. Don't really know. Anybody?
The only water/steam/turbine system I know of on the peninsula is the oil burner in Rosarito Beach.
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Maybe they will run it by Russ's Casa. He could run his air all the time.
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production in L aPaz is mainly heavy oil (extremely toxic exhaust) and one older small liquid gas.
The solar production in La Paz covers 100% of the power need in La Paz. Why are we still expanding the heavy oil facility? Because of the tourist boom
in Los Cabos.
La Paz enjoys the highest mortality rate in Mexico for respiratory illnesses so investors can build more hotels in Los Cabos.
Best selling item in La Paz farmacias - inhalers.
Harald Pietschmann
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SFandH
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Isn't connecting BCS to the mainland grid eliminating the need to build more generating facilities in BCS?
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| Quote: Originally posted by TMW | | Even with solar and wind for electric power you still need gas, coal, thermo or nuclear powered plants as backup in a standby mode.
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I know many homes where a small solar is supplemental to grid power, not the other way around. Was the main source of power before the grid has
become available, and then became a back-up. Runs quietly in the background, contributing a few pennies (i.e. small and not grid-tied).
Have a feeling that nuclear or coal is not a good choice for back-up, being not quite a flip-switch thing. IIRC, Chernobyl nuclear station disaster
was caused by deploying it too fast after scheduled maintenance, - in 24 hours instead of 48 or something. Communist Party leaders ordered full power
by the 1st of May - local equivalent of the 4th of July.
Wouldn't be surprised if coal plant also needed some hours to kick in.
Solar is instantly On. At least, in daytime  ...
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Alm
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| Quote: Originally posted by SFandH | | Isn't connecting BCS to the mainland grid eliminating the need to build more generating facilities in BCS? |
It will result in building more hotels yet. With paper-thin insulation, $$$ hotel rooms paying for electricity, what else is new...
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I think natural gas would be the best backup power, much cleaner than coal or diesel. I don't know what Mexico has for natural gas but the US has lots
of it. How hard is it to convert a coal plant to natural gas?
I grew up in a town that everything was coal for heating homes to factories. The air was crap. Now everything there was converted to natural gas and
the air quality is much better. Here in Bako most of the schools from grade thru college have large solar systems installed as well as many medical
facilities. Starting in 2020 (I think that's the year) all new homes in CA must have solar.
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SFandH
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| Quote: Originally posted by Alm | | Quote: Originally posted by SFandH | | Isn't connecting BCS to the mainland grid eliminating the need to build more generating facilities in BCS? |
It will result in building more hotels yet. With paper-thin insulation, $$$ hotel rooms paying for electricity, what else is new...
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I'm worried that my favorite winter spot, Bahia Concepcion, will see more residential and commercial development once wires are strung between Mulege
and Loreto. With the juice, they'll be able to pump water in too. Arrrg, Santispac timeshares, ATV rentals, OXXOs everywhere. We're doomed!!!!
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wow, true colors.. i would suggest u think outside the box, as in, the improvements will benefit thousands. no worries about baja, more than not, most
people are afraid of mexico, due to a number of insecure and in some cases justified reasons. We should all be bright enough to promote baja as we
know it, by the same token, call out its deficiancies when applicable. anyone who thinks baja will be overrun by the ugly american, especially in our
lifetime is not only paranoid, but prolly drinking too much. The basic patience and acceptance of life is a great thing, embrace change as your
progression to a better life for your unborn grandchildren...
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The future is happening, first, they pave a road... then another... and people want 24-hour power (and the companies want to sell them 24-hour power,
too)! Someday, Baja and Alta will look more the same, than they will different... Only that Baja has the boojum trees (except for the growing forest
of them by Condor Ridge at the Safari Park near Escondido)!
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Uncontrolled development, sewage issues, and dirty power plants are mostly Mexican.
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I wonder how long it will take some enterprising chukero to steal that cable and sells it for scrap?
"The future ain't what it used to be"
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If they wait until the lines are strung up, they could be in for the shock of their lives! A few years back, when copper prices were surging, some
rogue phone workers began stealing wire "in their spare time". Since much of this "work" was done at night, occasionally one would touch the wrong
wire...
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Remember the marvelous oh so wonderful wind energy , like the rusted hulk in Guerrero Negro??? The 'new energy' stuff makes some folks feel good
about themselves but....ya gotta wait for the technology to be mature.
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| Quote: Originally posted by EdZeranski | | Remember the marvelous oh so wonderful wind energy , like the rusted hulk in Guerrero Negro??? The 'new energy' stuff makes some folks feel good
about themselves but....ya gotta wait for the technology to be mature. |
wind power generates enough electricity for 2 million homes in California. its the 4th largest source, ahead of solar as of 2016.
Yup, those 2 million homes feel good about themselves!
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| Quote: Originally posted by EdZeranski | | Remember the marvelous oh so wonderful wind energy , like the rusted hulk in Guerrero Negro??? The 'new energy' stuff makes some folks feel good
about themselves but....ya gotta wait for the technology to be mature. |
The wind generator test was deemed a success. Like a lot of other projects, Mexico had no money to expand it, nor the resources to maintain the
test site.
Nothing to do with maturing technology unless you are waiting for things to take care of themselves.
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The Cerro Prieto Geothermal Power Station south of Mexicali is the third largest in the world, supplying much electricity to N]Baja California and
connected to the Southern California grid. Mexico would go a long way by connecting these plants to their own national grid.
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More than electricity, they need water.
Udo
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