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[*] posted on 4-6-2021 at 02:04 PM


The INEGI link for PDF and GeoPDF maps is on my website, VivaBaja.com:


Mexican Topographic Maps from INEGI
(choose scale, area, and click PDF or GeoPDF where available)
Link: https://www.inegi.org.mx/temas/topografia/




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[*] posted on 4-6-2021 at 05:57 PM


Wow this is great news!

While i have a GPS and I'm down for the occasional googlin', nothing beats pulling out a proper atlas to plan the next day's maneuvers or to swap tips aroumd the campfire.




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[*] posted on 4-6-2021 at 08:48 PM


Quote: Originally posted by PaulW  
Want PDF for maps?
Some years ago I went to the INEGI office in Mexicali and received a cd with the original maps (PDF). They appear to be what Landon used for his base maps. I took the cd to a survey shop in Calexico and had several printed in color using the size of the original INEGI maps.
BTW, one can still go to the INEGI web site and download the appropriate maps one at a time.


Nice! A couple years ago I download every single 50K INEGI map (there are about 2300 of them), and stitched them together into the seamless online topographic maps you now see on the Caltopo website. 1600 of those INEGI maps are nice georeferenced digital PDFs, but the rest are a mishmash various formats including rough scans of old paper maps.

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[*] posted on 4-6-2021 at 09:26 PM


Quote: Originally posted by WideAngleWandering  


While i have a GPS and I'm down for the occasional googlin', nothing beats pulling out a proper atlas to plan the next day's maneuvers or to swap tips aroumd the campfire.


Naw, this isn't true. Not at all in 2021.

An Atlas is a nice to have. If you have high res satellite images for all of Baja on every device (phone, tablet, etc.) of every person in your group, combined with hundreds of tracks and way points you'd quickly understand the fallacy of that statement.



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[*] posted on 4-6-2021 at 10:27 PM


Quote: Originally posted by geoffff  
Quote: Originally posted by PaulW  
Want PDF for maps?
Some years ago I went to the INEGI office in Mexicali and received a cd with the original maps (PDF). They appear to be what Landon used for his base maps. I took the cd to a survey shop in Calexico and had several printed in color using the size of the original INEGI maps.
BTW, one can still go to the INEGI web site and download the appropriate maps one at a time.


Nice! A couple years ago I download every single 50K INEGI map (there are about 2300 of them), and stitched them together into the seamless online topographic maps you now see on the Caltopo website. 1600 of those INEGI maps are nice georeferenced digital PDFs, but the rest are a mishmash various formats including rough scans of old paper maps.

-- Geoff

[Edited on 4-7-2021 by geoffff]


The CalTopo link is on VivaBaja.com:
>>Baja California, Mexico 'Zoom-In' Topo & Satellite Map<<
https://caltopo.com/map.html (takes you to the center of the peninsula)




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[*] posted on 4-7-2021 at 01:29 AM


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An Atlas is a nice to have


I use both. All these tools are nice to haves imo. It doesnt really matter though as this is not a competition.

Thanks davidk for the good news.

[Edited on 2021-4-7 by WideAngleWandering]




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[*] posted on 4-7-2021 at 09:31 AM


Quote: Originally posted by WideAngleWandering  
Wow this is great news!

While i have a GPS and I'm down for the occasional googlin', nothing beats pulling out a proper atlas to plan the next day's maneuvers or to swap tips aroumd the campfire.


True - I love my computer, but a paper atlas is nice for general planning and sharing ideas with friends.




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[*] posted on 4-7-2021 at 09:43 AM


INEGI has a 20K map series as well. I had to remind myself just now why I had decided to work with INEGI's 50K maps instead. If you're curious -- INEGI's 20k series is hit & miss. Some 20K maps are excellent, while others are empty except for single coastline line.






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[*] posted on 4-7-2021 at 11:09 AM


The seem to be continuously working on them. I haven't checked back in on the 50K maps in a couple years, but the best of the 20K maps I showed above is dated 2020.



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[*] posted on 4-7-2021 at 11:38 AM


Curious if they show the new Hwy. 5 (Coco's bypass) work/ completed?



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[*] posted on 4-7-2021 at 02:43 PM
Looking for new Road


Punta Final H11D29-19
At least on this ,map the new road is shown, But I did not look at other maps

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[*] posted on 4-7-2021 at 03:16 PM


Las Astarissas
Looking at H11D29 PDFs
The 2004 INEGI map shows two buildings at Las Arrastritas
The 2018 INEGI map shows five buildings.
David’s placement at Km179.5 it is way different than the INEGI maps
What is the explanation?
I was told once that water is available at the INEGI location near the old Coco place where the buildings are situated.
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[*] posted on 4-7-2021 at 05:21 PM



The place called Las Arrastritas (not Arrastras) on that map is the rancho on the old old (pre-1982) road where Coco's stand-by helper comes from (and his source of water).

Las Arrastras is off the map above... where the new highway splits away from the older roads south.




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[*] posted on 4-7-2021 at 05:23 PM


The new road (hwy) IS on that map!



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[*] posted on 4-9-2021 at 09:47 AM


Quote: Originally posted by lencho  
All of us who use maps based on INEGI products (as most Baja maps are), let's take a moment of silence to appreciate that huge amount of work that we can make use of, usually free.

Count it among the things the Mexican Government has done well.


I'm very appreciative!

My understanding is that it wasn't until 2014 that INEGI put the maps into public domain for free copying.

https://www.nosolosig.com/noticias/428-el-inegi-emite-norma-...
https://goo.gl/hjEcbP (Google translation of above)

Many governments don't freely give out their maps. United Kingdom, for example.




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[*] posted on 4-9-2021 at 10:00 AM


Agree - INEGI is first class
And the effort continues to replace my 2004 PDF versions with 2018 PDF versions.
I am sure I will deal with updating when time allows.
I guess I have to look at them one at a time to find the new ones?
Do you have a list of the ones that are updated?
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[*] posted on 4-9-2021 at 10:32 AM


Quote: Originally posted by PaulW  
Agree - INEGI is first class
And the effort continues to replace my 2004 PDF versions with 2018 PDF versions.
I am sure I will deal with updating when time allows.
I guess I have to look at them one at a time to find the new ones?
Do you have a list of the ones that are updated?


you can download the INEGI top maps here: https://www.inegi.org.mx/temas/topografia/

For each map, you have choice of format (tiff, gif, pdf, geo-pdf formats depending on date and location) and date/version, so can pick and choose which date map you want.




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[*] posted on 4-9-2021 at 10:38 AM


Great sources.

But ... "the map is not the territory " :light:

Interesting:
https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/bronze-age-slab-map-intl-scli-scn/index.html

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[*] posted on 4-9-2021 at 11:47 AM


I usually do that....my apologies and appreciation for the fix. :coolup:

I corrected my post.

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[*] posted on 4-9-2021 at 05:03 PM
INEGI PDFs


All the INEGI 2018 maps now show the new Hwy5 to Chapala
Here are the INEGI PDFs I checked
Order Chapala north
H11D38 Chapala
H11D29 Punta Final
H11D28 Jaraquay
H11D18 Isla San Luis
H11B88 Huerfinito
H11B87 Cerro el Huerfinito
H11B77-78 Puertictos
H11B67-68 Santa Maria
H11 B57 Punta Estrella
H11B47 San Felipe

Here is the turn to Coco on map H11D28


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