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Consider, that many things you were told are wrong and take time to do some research beyond a single source to multiple sources and think outside the
box. As humans we have so much to learn and so little we know for certain. |
If you took this great advice to heart ... you'd never say ridiculous things like "it's the volcanos" or "it's the sun" or be so out of touch claiming
that CO2 level is 400ppm.
It's 2018 brah ... June's average CO2 was 410.79 ppm !! https://www.co2.earth/
Drag those knuckles into the 21st century! 
Take the time. "Clearly", there's much for you to get up-to-speed on re climate.
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charliemanson
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Sorry, its really hot outside and I just had to say what a malformed idiot skipjack is. Not a clue even how anything, including his own body works.
Good god, complete idiot.
the worst thing is, I am here typing instead of cleaning my tuna and dorado... at least it is on ice.
skipjack....may I recommend more fat for you as its all good and you will be dead faster ( hum ), slower than us with a brain.
More fat and sun!!!
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Skipjack Joe
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A couple of climate change deniers changing the climate.
Lots of methane here as well. Methane has carbon therefore it's so good for you.
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bezzell
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Chuckie mighta lost a few!??
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EVERY cell (no exceptions) in the body is fueled by ... wait for it .... SUGAR
The brain is fueled 100% by ... wait for it ... SUGAR (aka carbs / glucose / glycogen etc)
This narrative that SUGAR is the devil ... is just NONSENSE.
Nonsense propaganda to sell product (that just happens to be loaded with fat and protein)
Wake up sheeple.
ANd wake up to the science / evidence now flooding in as to what a mistake capatalism is turning out to be, re habitat longevity !!
Flame away ... I'm done.
paz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFy1Vmm42zQ
ps no, I do not have a solution. The horse has left the barn!
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| Quote: Originally posted by David K | Is it time for the photos of the palm tree on the beach (1948-2017), yet? It is still no closer to being underwater at high tide!
Stay cool everyone... Summer happens (every 12 months, over and over)!
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only a genius would reference a tree at shoreline as appropriate sea level
calibration ... on a tiny planet spinning at 1000mph at the equator!
where's my rubber ducky ... mommy's running a bath?
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David K
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Yes, and only a blind person cannot SEE that the sea level over nearly 70 years is not rising in any amount to cause panic and hysteria that fuels
some here. 
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looks to me like its getting closer.....
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| Quote: Originally posted by David K | | Yes, and only a blind person cannot SEE that the sea level over nearly 70 years is not rising in any amount to cause panic and hysteria that fuels
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“The greatest shortcoming of the human race is our inability to understand the exponential function.” Albert Bartlett
no offense ... but it's all a lil' above your pay grade. again, no offense intended, but hey ...
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David K
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Nope, it was just as close 70 years ago and even longer if anyone took photos before WWII there!
Here it is in 1952:
It is just a pretty place, but not the only place where you can compare past with the present. Alfonsina's would be an island as any other beach side
resort and boat ramp, breakwater, etc.
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actual measurements of the mean sea level. https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/12/world/sea-level-rise-accelera...
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The solution is real simple for all you CO2 alarmists. If you truly believe the "science"
You must discontinue exhaling
Otherwise you are a hypocrite
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The clump of palms is showing signs of stress due to sea level rise. I see one dead trunk on ground, another dead trunk standing. Sad!
Woke!
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will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
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The article is fraudulent, reading the article it states that for 100 years up to 1993 they used tidal gauges and the sea rise was about ~1.1mm/yr or
4 inches for 100 years (though tidal gauges change based on sun/moon/salt content etc) then they report they changed to satellite data after 1993 and
it surged to 3mm/yr or 11 inches in 100 years. Both readings, tidal gauge and satellite readings are fraudulently reported, they quote Michael Mann to
support their findings who is at the heart of climate fraud whose emails showed the effort to "hide the decline" in temperature rise.
As well the article quotes Narem, who states, "This acceleration, driven mainly by accelerated melting in Greenland and Antarctica, has the potential
to double the total sea level rise by 2100 as compared to projections that assume a constant rate, to more than 60 centimeters instead of about 30,"
which is not demonstrable but measurable data, as Antartic shows no increase in melt-off year/year at present and is stable. https://phys.org/news/2017-05-antarctic-central-ice-sheet-st...
Yearly Antarctic variability is largely attributed to 100s of underwater volcanoes and hot water upwelling creating a highly diverse ecosystem. http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/d-brief/2017/08/14/volcano...
Unique locations may show variation in sea level based on many factors according to studies unrelated to global sea level change http://esamultimedia.esa.int/docs/Sea-Level_Study_12056_96.p...
Sea levels have risen for 20,000 years with no evidence of increase https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_level_rise
[Edited on 7-24-2018 by gnukid]
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| Quote: Originally posted by gnukid |
The article is fraudulent, reading the article it states that for 100 years up to 1993 they used tidal gauges and the sea rise was about ~1.1mm/yr or
4 inches for 100 years (though tidal gauges change based on sun/moon/salt content etc) then they report they changed to satellite data after 1993 and
it surged to 3mm/yr or 11 inches in 100 years. Both readings, tidal gauge and satellite readings are fraudulently reported, they quote Michael Mann to
support their findings who is at the heart of climate fraud whose emails showed the effort to "hide the decline" in temperature rise.
As well the article quotes Narem, who states, "This acceleration, driven mainly by accelerated melting in Greenland and Antarctica, has the potential
to double the total sea level rise by 2100 as compared to projections that assume a constant rate, to more than 60 centimeters instead of about 30,"
which is not demonstrable but measurable data, as Antartic shows no increase in melt-off year/year at present and is stable. https://phys.org/news/2017-05-antarctic-central-ice-sheet-st...
Yearly Antarctic variability is largely attributed to 100s of underwater volcanoes and hot water upwelling creating a highly diverse ecosystem. http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/d-brief/2017/08/14/volcano...
Unique locations may show variation in sea level based on many factors according to studies unrelated to global sea level change http://esamultimedia.esa.int/docs/Sea-Level_Study_12056_96.p...
Sea levels have risen for 20,000 years with no evidence of increase https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_level_rise
[Edited on 7-24-2018 by gnukid] |
Tonga created a climate change trust fund to deal with some of the financial issues around sea level change of their low lieing nation.
Newkid, does your trust fund have contingency plan for sea level change?
Woke!
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will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
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I say DK is doing a little photoshop work on his pics in his spare time
So understand dont waste your time always searching for those wasted years
face up and make your stand and realize that your living in the golden years
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gnukid
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| Quote: Originally posted by bezzell | | Quote: Originally posted by gnukid |
Consider, that many things you were told are wrong and take time to do some research beyond a single source to multiple sources and think outside the
box. As humans we have so much to learn and so little we know for certain. |
If you took this great advice to heart ... you'd never say ridiculous things like "it's the volcanos" or "it's the sun" or be so out of touch claiming
that CO2 level is 400ppm.
It's 2018 brah ... June's average CO2 was 410.79 ppm !! https://www.co2.earth/
Drag those knuckles into the 21st century!
Take the time. "Clearly", there's much for you to get up-to-speed on re climate. |
CO2 parts per million are a relative gauge to compare location to location. While the earth has experienced much higher CO2 over the past 20,000 years
- up to 10,000 PPM well before the industrial revolution - likely driven by warmer temperatures - your reading to highlight 410.79 PPM according to
your quoted source https://www.co2.earth/ comes from June 5th 2018 at the top of Mauna Loa Hawaii which is a reading about 1 month after the first eruption of
Kilauea a nearby location and height of recent continuing volcanic activity resulting in higher than normal CO2 readings. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-hawaii-volcano/hawaii-eru...
It is shortsighted to overlook the localized volcanic contribution to the CO2 measurement you quote as average, while it clearly demonstrates a
localized increase in CO2. The overall global CO2 has been surprisingly stable for some time, while at the same time USA and Europe are decreasing CO2
output year to year, though unfortunately China and India did not. Good job USA https://www.aei.org/publication/chart-of-the-day-in-2017-us-...
[Edited on 7-24-2018 by gnukid]
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David K
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I wouldn't know how, but I am glad your eyes are working and you see the obvious.
Another place you can see that sea levels are not higher is at all the salt flats next to the ocean and lagoons... they are still not underwater all
the time! Being just inches above average high tide, they would be the first areas flooded permanently by rising sea level.
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| Quote: Originally posted by gnukid | Fallacious arguments abound:
I never said an unlimited amount of CO2 is better, only that human contribution (%.04) to the current ~400PPM is not the driver of global and
atmospheric temperatures demonstrably. Current temperatures are stable for some reasons, likely solar activity minimum as suggested.
Yes, human contribution to CO2 is minimal, much less than animals, and volcanoes and oceanic and terra plant life breakdown, but it is hard to
measure and know for sure.
Humans do not drive Earth's CO2 and do not drive temperature while other factors, the Sun, volcanoes, animals, the ocean and organic plant material
deterioration may be a driver of global CO2.
Focus on things you control, like dumping depleted uranium bombs, chemicals, plastics, and destructive food/fish production.
Consider, that many things you were told are wrong and take time to do some research beyond a single source to multiple sources and think outside the
box. As humans we have so much to learn and so little we know for certain. |
Volcanoes again?
"Carbon dioxide (CO2) is a greenhouse gas and is the primary gas blamed for climate change. While sulfur dioxide released in contemporary volcanic
eruptions has occasionally caused detectable global cooling of the lower atmosphere, the carbon dioxide released in contemporary volcanic eruptions
has never caused detectable global warming of the atmosphere. In 2010, human activities were responsible for a projected 35 billion metric tons
(gigatons) of CO2 emissions. All studies to date of global volcanic carbon dioxide emissions indicate that present-day subaerial and submarine
volcanoes release less than a percent of the carbon dioxide released currently by human activities. While it has been proposed that intense volcanic
release of carbon dioxide in the deep geologic past did cause global warming, and possibly some mass extinctions, this is a topic of scientific debate
at present."
https://volcanoes.usgs.gov/vhp/gas_climate.html
I might add that those possible volcanic extinctions occurred as a result of immense volcanic fields erupting over thousands of years (The Siberian
and Deccan Trap episodes).
We are vaporizing 200 million years of carbon that has been locked up in the Earth's crust in the span of a couple centuries. I grant you that in
previous interglacial periods like this current one 400 ppm was reached before man was barely a twinkle of an influence on the environment. However
we are accelerating that milestone before other past interglacial timelines. Time will tell.
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gnukid
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| Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 | | Quote: Originally posted by gnukid |
The article is fraudulent, reading the article it states that for 100 years up to 1993 they used tidal gauges and the sea rise was about ~1.1mm/yr or
4 inches for 100 years (though tidal gauges change based on sun/moon/salt content etc) then they report they changed to satellite data after 1993 and
it surged to 3mm/yr or 11 inches in 100 years. Both readings, tidal gauge and satellite readings are fraudulently reported, they quote Michael Mann to
support their findings who is at the heart of climate fraud whose emails showed the effort to "hide the decline" in temperature rise.
As well the article quotes Narem, who states, "This acceleration, driven mainly by accelerated melting in Greenland and Antarctica, has the potential
to double the total sea level rise by 2100 as compared to projections that assume a constant rate, to more than 60 centimeters instead of about 30,"
which is not demonstrable but measurable data, as Antartic shows no increase in melt-off year/year at present and is stable. https://phys.org/news/2017-05-antarctic-central-ice-sheet-st...
Yearly Antarctic variability is largely attributed to 100s of underwater volcanoes and hot water upwelling creating a highly diverse ecosystem. http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/d-brief/2017/08/14/volcano...
Unique locations may show variation in sea level based on many factors according to studies unrelated to global sea level change http://esamultimedia.esa.int/docs/Sea-Level_Study_12056_96.p...
Sea levels have risen for 20,000 years with no evidence of increase https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_level_rise
[Edited on 7-24-2018 by gnukid] |
Tonga created a climate change trust fund to deal with some of the financial issues around sea level change of their low lieing nation.
Newkid, does your trust fund have contingency plan for sea level change?
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Fraud for financial gain in sea level rise reported in the pacific islands has been identified for some ten years with some politicians prosecuted.
National Geographic reports a land increase of 3% during the same period.
https://news.nationalgeographic.com/2015/02/150213-tuvalu-so...
Additional sources showing fraud in pacific island sea level rise https://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbo...
Pacific Islands growing not shrinking http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/06/03/pacific_islands_ok?p...
There is little to no discernible sea level rise over 2000 years, trends show downward movement while there is clearly identifiable sea level fraud
for financial gain to claim sea level rise and demand compensation. https://buythetruth.wordpress.com/2008/11/15/sea-level-scam/
[Edited on 7-24-2018 by gnukid]
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