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Alm
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Quote: Originally posted by wilderone  | that is the key: Fire starters, with pine twigs or sticks (which I’ll bring – have huge supply), and feed a twig or two to keep maximum heat
going. The experiment took about 5 minutes, but I should be able to get an acceptable coffee-ready (noodle soup) temperature in about 4 min.
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Why reinventing a wheel  ... Alcohol stove will be easier to work with and no
soot. 16 oz bottle of alcohol costs less than a dollar in grocery tiendas, will last a few days.
For "smoke and fire" experience try Sierra stove. Once started, it burns everything, dry cow dung, wet twigs etc. Fan creates an effect similar to
that in industrial blast furnace. Like with any wood fire, you'll get sooty pots, smoke in your eyes, smoke smell on your clothes, - the whole
shebang. At least, it burns well. Fire starters - brown sticks - are nice to have, but again, airlines might not like it. Though they were never able
to spot it inside metal Sierra can filled with other items.
Get Single propane burner and you'll be a happy camper with your own kitchen on the beach, without all this mess. Walmart and Home Depot in the US.
Edit-PS: as usual, you get what you pay. $15 Ozark is a so-so, $20 Coleman is slightly better. Flame adjustment knob doesn't work smooth, though
better than on-off work of an alcohol stove. $26 Stansport in Home Depot is better, reportedly.
[Edited on 8-27-2018 by Alm]
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wilderone
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I hear ya, Alm - I will take the alcohol stove, but not going to spend too much time looking for denatured alcohol (maybe at an RV supply store)
(isopropyl alcohol does not work - HEET antifreeze works but couldn't find that in Yucatan). I'll be happy with a little twig fire - worked fine in
Alaska, but I didn't have a nice pot support on the folding stove I had then, and the flames shot out the sides instead of heating the middle - I can
make a bigger fire with my grill support too. I have 9 or 10 stoves as it is - I don't want to buy anything else. I'm separating the fire starters
from the kindling - airlines shouldn't have a problem with wax. If the sticks get nixed, not a big deal.
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I got the tabletop single burner Stansport for my trip to Idaho, did not feel like taking the Coleman two burner. I just set it on the tailgate,
worked great. It's only 5500 BTU but that was plenty heat. I did have problems with wind, so I made a cardboard windscreen to place around it. Kind
of funky how the bottle attaches, but I've seen pots tumble off those burners that sit on top of the bottle. Without a base you're in trouble too.
https://www.amazon.com/Stansport-Single-Burner-Propane-Stove...
John
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Alm
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Wilderone, there should be no problem finding a "real" alcohol in Baja. Sold in grocery stores, in cleaning supply isle. It says "not for drinking"
but I didn't see any other components mentioned on the bottle, just a plain Alcohol Ethilico, looks like this one: 
In a pinch, 70% rubbing alcohol will work too, so-so, it's sold in pharmacies and costs 3 times more than this 96% ethyl alcohol.
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That's what i brought. My 20 yr old unit. Got an extra look at airport screening but was fine. Took a while to find fuel, had the wrong phrase in
spanish at first, couldn't work it out in hand language either . Then I learned
the best phrase to remember is the "hardware store"... ferreteria. Then I started seeing them everywhere. All like the old school stores you had up to
the Home Depot and the like invasion. They use white gas more as a paint thinner for the locals i think. Glass bottles - odd. Never did see the
propane bottles - the common camp ones.
This ain't no party, this ain't no disco, this ain't no foolin' around Life During Wartime
- Talking Heads '79
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wilderone
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Turns out I had no problem with a little wood fire using my fire starters (they worked best), along with my construction pine splinters – was a
reliable system with quick results.
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Many years ago we searched all over for Coleman Fuel or White Gas with no luck. Then someone told us to go to a paint store and ask for Naptha. It
is the same as white gas.
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