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[*] posted on 9-26-2018 at 03:06 PM
Hwy 5 @ KM60 past Puertocitos Construction


Attempted today to drive from San Felipe to La Costilla and Hwy 5 going out of San Felipe is in terrible condition. At KM 60 Puertecitos Hwy 5 is entirely torn up with a washboard detour. Someone told me construction was for 30 kilometers. I only have FWD so turned around @ Puertecitos. Doubt it will be finished by end of this year.
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[*] posted on 9-26-2018 at 03:20 PM


Drove it a couple weeks back at the beginning of September. It's not that bad. FWD can do it very easily.


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[*] posted on 9-26-2018 at 03:38 PM


Took me almost twice as long as I'm not willing to ruin tires because of road. I've driven in many places in Baja and this is one of the worst. Not worth the risk of damaging my car. I'm housesitting between San Felipe & La Costilla so have to drive several times between both houses so not worth it.

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[*] posted on 9-26-2018 at 04:07 PM


What's Baja w/o a little dirt. You aren't going to "ruin the tires" or the car. Just air down a little and go slower.

No big deal at all.




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[*] posted on 9-26-2018 at 05:05 PM


Quote: Originally posted by bajamary1952  
Attempted today to drive from San Felipe to La Costilla and Hwy 5 going out of San Felipe is in terrible condition. At KM 60 Puertecitos Hwy 5 is entirely torn up with a washboard detour. Someone told me construction was for 30 kilometers. I only have FWD so turned around @ Puertecitos. Doubt it will be finished by end of this year.


Mary, I was just down that way last month and gave the details in my trip report. http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=91029

The detour began at Km. 61 and ended just before Km. 73 (Cow Patty's Cantina)... 12 kms. (7.4 miles) of nice graded detour road. It is not as nice as a paved highway but detours of this length are quite common in Baja while the highway is upgraded.

Who told you it was for 30 kms? I asked you a similar question when you said someone told you there were no gas stations south of San Felipe. Please stop listening to people who don't know... Especially when you have Baja Nomads traveling these roads all year long to ask. If you turned around at Puertecitos then you were back on pavement and the good 110 kph new highway south past Gonzaga Bay was sadly missed by you!

Here are photos I posted of the 7+ mile detour, last month:





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Basically, this will end the multiple short steep dips across Arroyo Matomi that have been there since about 1990.




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[*] posted on 9-26-2018 at 07:43 PM


Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Quote: Originally posted by bajamary1952  
Attempted today to drive from San Felipe to La Costilla and Hwy 5 going out of San Felipe is in terrible condition. At KM 60 Puertecitos Hwy 5 is entirely torn up with a washboard detour. Someone told me construction was for 30 kilometers. I only have FWD so turned around @ Puertecitos. Doubt it will be finished by end of this year.


Mary, I was just down that way last month and gave the details in my trip report. http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=91029

The detour began at Km. 61 and ended just before Km. 73 (Cow Patty's Cantina)... 12 kms. (7.4 miles) of nice graded detour road. It is not as nice as a paved highway but detours of this length are quite common in Baja while the highway is upgraded.

Who told you it was for 30 kms? I asked you a similar question when you said someone told you there were no gas stations south of San Felipe. Please stop listening to people who don't know... Especially when you have Baja Nomads traveling these roads all year long to ask. If you turned around at Puertecitos then you were back on pavement and the good 110 kph new highway south past Gonzaga Bay was sadly missed by you!

Here are photos I posted of the 7+ mile detour, last month:





Northbound Friday:









Basically, this will end the multiple short steep dips across Arroyo Matomi that have been there since about 1990.


More recent reports on other forums/web sites have it as longer now...From just North of the Puertecitos turn-off North for 12 miles...But what do they know- they probably are not NOMADS.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/400767196648940/


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[*] posted on 9-26-2018 at 08:41 PM


From the link
PUERTECITOS HAPPENINGS
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[*] posted on 9-26-2018 at 08:51 PM


Quote: Originally posted by PaulW  
From the link
PUERTECITOS HAPPENINGS
We need a nomad to give us a fresh report.




Nah....David says "Please stop listening to people who don't know."


We have to wait for him to make another trip before it will be so.
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[*] posted on 9-26-2018 at 09:01 PM


I will drive down there in October when we get settled for the winter. I will report.
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[*] posted on 9-26-2018 at 09:07 PM


I was happy with Mary's report! :coolup:
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[*] posted on 9-26-2018 at 09:49 PM


I think is funny you are calling out somebody's report because it doesn't fit the Nomad group think. I thought that road sucks most of the time.



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[*] posted on 9-26-2018 at 10:12 PM


norte, I said ask Nomads, not me. I can only provide accurate data from my trip there, which was in August. I won't be going south again for quite a while... too much to do here now.

Please, traveling Nomads, take a moment to note what kilometer marker changes are at or from where to where to share the news.




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[*] posted on 9-27-2018 at 12:04 PM


Quote: Originally posted by David K  
norte, I said ask Nomads, not me. I can only provide accurate data from my trip there, which was in August. I won't be going south again for quite a while... too much to do here now.

Please, traveling Nomads, take a moment to note what kilometer marker changes are at or from where to where to share the news.


Please David.. I just ask the you acknowledge that you told her it was 7.5 miles and do not believe any one who said it was 30 KM...implying that only NOMADS know. You want to be right all the time..I understand that...but sometimes...especially if you travel infrequently its just not going to be so. I encourage people to visit websites from the area in question if the want the straight poop instead of BS.
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Quote: Originally posted by norte  
Quote: Originally posted by David K  
norte, I said ask Nomads, not me. I can only provide accurate data from my trip there, which was in August. I won't be going south again for quite a while... too much to do here now.

Please, traveling Nomads, take a moment to note what kilometer marker changes are at or from where to where to share the news.


Please David.. I just ask the you acknowledge that you told her it was 7.5 miles and do not believe any one who said it was 30 KM...implying that only NOMADS know. You want to be right all the time..I understand that...but sometimes...especially if you travel infrequently its just not going to be so. I encourage people to visit websites from the area in question if the want the straight poop instead of BS.


fact is.....does anybody really care if its seven miles or 18 miles? Its just david alienating another member who simply wanted to share a little information....:no:
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[*] posted on 9-27-2018 at 12:43 PM


No, it's David doing his best to provid accurate information. The source of the wrong data seems to be Facebook. There, wild figures were thrown at by people who (like you) don't care about facts. In the case of Baja Mary, this wrong info prevented her from going to where she wanted. That is the sad thing.

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[*] posted on 9-27-2018 at 01:53 PM


Quote: Originally posted by willardguy  


fact is.....does anybody really care if its seven miles or 18 miles? Its just david alienating another member who simply wanted to share a little information....:no:


I'm the last one to stick up for him, but I didn't like the op. Came off as someone exaggerating the road conditions. I just drove it. It's not all "wash boarded."

It's not going to "ruin your tires" to drive on it.

Those statements would scare others off from a good adventure.


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[*] posted on 9-27-2018 at 04:30 PM


Quote: Originally posted by David K  
No, it's David doing his best to provid accurate information. The source of the wrong data seems to be Facebook. There, wild figures were thrown at by people who (like you) don't care about facts. In the case of Baja Mama, this wrong info prevented her from going to where she wanted. That is the sad thing.


From all other sources...it seems it was you giving wrong information. Guess we need a NOMAD to drive it soon....Facebook users throw out wild figures.
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[*] posted on 9-27-2018 at 07:46 PM


For the last 15 years the construction contracts have been for 10 km or 6 miles . What saw a few months ago it is the 10 km length. I will been going south this month and will report. The side roads during construction are rough but doable in a 2wd vehicle.
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[*] posted on 9-27-2018 at 08:20 PM


Quote: Originally posted by norte  
Quote: Originally posted by David K  
No, it's David doing his best to provid accurate information. The source of the wrong data seems to be Facebook. There, wild figures were thrown at by people who (like you) don't care about facts. In the case of Baja Mary, this wrong info prevented her from going to where she wanted. That is the sad thing.


From all other sources...it seems it was you giving wrong information. Guess we need a NOMAD to drive it soon....Facebook users throw out wild figures.


Show me the wrong info so I can correct it.
Until I see that something I posted is wrong, I will stand by my observations from last month.

I, more than anyone, want my data to be 100% accurate... it is what motivates me... to provide good details. I want my mistakes corrected and I have always posted my road logs and maps here so that you all can scrutinize them and enjoy them. It doesn't hurt me in one bit to have a mistake corrected. I am human and I do type with two fingers so typos do happen!
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[*] posted on 9-28-2018 at 08:51 AM


So much ado over nothing. Rough roads are in the eyes of the beholder. I'm sure a lot of it has to do with type of vehicle the beholder is traveling in. A small sedan with small wheels and tires will make a rough road seem much worse than some one traveling in a pickup with oversize wheels and aired down tires. If you are afraid of rough roads and your vehicle being damaged then Baja may not be for you. I'm going to drive that road next week but I probably won't send in a report because road conditions are just part of the fun of exploring Baja.



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