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baitcast
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To my fellow Brothers at Arms
In the forgotten war and others.....GO NAVY
Rob
Anyone can catch fish in a boat but only \"El Pescador Grande\" can get them from the beach.
I hope when my time comes the old man will let me bring my rod and the water will be warm and clear.
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Rainer
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GO ARMY
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John M
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Semper Fi
Semper Fi to all who served.
JM
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BajaBlanca
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Go Air Force!
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caj13
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first: a sincerre thankyou to all of you who served. You are appreciated , and lionized - thank you for being a hero!
Semper Fi fund https://semperfifund.org/ is an excellent resource for any veterans struggling with any issue, financially physically mentally etc. (don't
have to be marines, any branch of service is welcomed and cared for).
(Don't click on the Our impact: Hero Stories Tab unless you want to cry)
A+ rated, 4* 95% of everything raised and donated goes directly to vets.
all sorts of programs and long term projects available to help!
If you are a vet, or know a vet in need of help - please contact them, the sooner the better.
Originally they were for post 9-11 vets, but they are in the process of opening up their programs to pre 9-11 vets as well.
Let me know if I can be of assistance, I have a direct line to the founder/ director!
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tobias
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thebajarunner
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Carrier vet here
survived for which I am ever thankful
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AKgringo
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Drafted in January of 67, I wound up spending three years serving in Armor, Artillery, and Infantry.
If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!
"Could do better if he tried!" Report card comments from most of my grade school teachers. Sadly, still true!
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basautter
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Go Armed Forces, especially the USMC! Ooorah!
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bajabuddha
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On Veteran's Day, all branches are honored. O-positive knows no race, color or religion.
I don't have a BUCKET LIST, but I do have a F***- IT LIST a mile long!
86 - 45*
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Glidergeek
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Thanks to all that served! I missed Vietnam by about 1 year, You are all heroes as far as I'm concerned.
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pacificobob
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nobody who knows me well will "thank me for my service" allowing my self to be drafted and subsequent excursion to viet nam was the worst decision of
my life. i regret it every day. war is a waste, and those who go fight and die for the interests of the wealthy are rubes. imho
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fishbuck
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USAF
Thank you brothers and sisters.
Thank you for your sacrifice.
"No man ever won a war by dying for his country. He won the war by making the other man die for his country."
Gen. Goerge S Patton
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"A ship in harbor is safe, but that is not what ships are built for." J. A. Shedd.
A clever person solves a problem. A wise person avoids it. – Albert Einstein
"Life's a Beach... and then you Fly!" Fishbuck
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motoged
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Quote: Originally posted by pacificobob | nobody who knows me well will "thank me for my service" allowing my self to be drafted and subsequent excursion to viet nam was the worst decision of
my life. i regret it every day. war is a waste, and those who go fight and die for the interests of the wealthy are rubes. imho
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....and Trump doesn't care for the fallen and survivors either:
"(CNN)Ron Freer is 103 years old. He is blind and uses a wheelchair. Ron lost his sight 75 years ago in the service of his country -- and the Allied
Powers, which include Britain, France and the United States -- due to the malnutrition he endured in a Japanese prisoner of war camp during World War
II. He spent four years in the camp after the fall of the British military base at Fort Stanley.
On Sunday, Ron led 100 fellow veterans down the streets of London as part of the UK's commemorations of the armistice, 100 years since the end of the
First World War. There was a light drizzle -- it doesn't seem to have deterred him .
Two months ago, he made the journey to lay a wreath at the Dernancourt Communal Cemetery in France, where his father lost his own life in 1918. Ron
was 3 years old when his father died in the First World War; he nonetheless joined the army at age 15, eight years before the outbreak of the Second
World War. Two generations of a family sacrificed to the service of a nation.
There has been plenty written in the last few days about President Donald Trump's failure to attend the armistice commemorations at the Aisne-Marne
American Cemetery in France on Saturday -- and on what it means for his status in America as commander in chief of the armed forces. Less has been
written on what it means for America's relationship with its allies.
US veterans have every right to be offended by Trump's inability to face a little rain. (Aisne-Marne cemetery had been chosen by the international
community to show respect to the Americans; Trump's absence led to the bizarre image of foreign leaders gathering together in a predominantly American
cemetery.)
But consider, too, the message it sends to those of us whose nations have served alongside American troops, often under American command. US
presidents, it seems, are happy to send European troops into the face of battle in Iraq and Afghanistan, but not to travel 50 miles to mourn our
shared war dead.
As a Brit, I have spent my life in love with the idea of America. I have lived in America, been educated in America, loved in America. No surprise,
then, that I've always been deeply committed to the idea of Anglo-American military cooperation: Get a gin and tonic into me and I've even been known
to try to convince British leftists that the invasion of Iraq, with better planning, could have been a good thing.
I'm just one person, political idiosyncrasies and all. But Trump's insult to the joint military forces who served in both world wars will appall many
of America's friends abroad. It makes it harder and harder to justify our continued alliances. As the British columnist Matthew d'Ancona wrote on the
day of Trump's inauguration, "for a passionate Atlanticist like me, this is an hour of sheer despair." With each affront to America's allies, the rest
of us feel the same.
No one can seriously believe the various excuses made by Team Trump for what appears to be sheer laziness this weekend, so I will not grace them with
much analysis here. There is no difficulty getting from Paris to Belleau in a light drizzle. Helicopters can fly in rain; presidents can take cars.
(The other world leaders all managed.)
As the former Obama speechwriter Ben Rhodes tweeted, on presidential trips, "There is always a rain option. Always." True, the President is a man of
72. Here in Britain, the queen's consort Prince Philip continued to accompany her to public commemorations until his recent retirement at age 96. Then
again, unlike President Trump, he is a war veteran who despite his flaws understands the concept of service.
One thing's for sure. In pulling this sulk, President Trump has managed to ensure the story of this armistice centenary is all about him -- in
splendid American isolation. For other world leaders, the weekend was a carefully planned show of diplomatic alliances. British Prime Minister Theresa
May paid her respects at WWI graves on Friday, alongside French President Emmanuel Macron and Belgian Prime Minister Charles Michel (a member of the
public crashing into their cavalcade didn't stop them), before returning to London to lay a wreath alongside the German President at Britain's
Cenotaph memorial.
The Queen, 92, also showed up. For all her wealth and privilege, she is loved here in Britain for having got her hands dirty as a truck mechanic in
World War II.
I believe,unfashionable as it is, that European and American military might has a major role to play in spreading democracy around the world. Living
in the United States, I put my hand on my heart to "The Star-Spangled Banner" on Veterans Day and shook the hands of American servicemen in gratitude
for their service.
But it gets harder and harder to explain to my countrymen why they should fight and die alongside the flag of a nation whose commander in chief sees
honoring our shared war dead -- or celebrating peace with our former adversaries -- as a chore better evaded.
If Ron Freer can make it to a French cemetery at the age of 103, I'm not sure why Donald Trump can't. Then again, perhaps President Trump doesn't
believe in honoring men like Freer. I understand he prefers war heroes who didn't get captured."
Don't believe everything you think....
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AKgringo
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Ged, which branch did you serve in? This post was started as a brief call out to fellow Nomad veterans, with no political stand.
Your reply is really out of place here and will just lead to another annoying hijack!
If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!
"Could do better if he tried!" Report card comments from most of my grade school teachers. Sadly, still true!
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pacificobob
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Quote: Originally posted by motoged | Quote: Originally posted by pacificobob | nobody who knows me well will "thank me for my service" allowing my self to be drafted and subsequent excursion to viet nam was the worst decision of
my life. i regret it every day. war is a waste, and those who go fight and die for the interests of the wealthy are rubes. imho
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....and Trump doesn't care for the fallen and survivors either:
"(CNN)Ron Freer is 103 years old. He is blind and uses a wheelchair. Ron lost his sight 75 years ago in the service of his country -- and the Allied
Powers, which include Britain, France and the United States -- due to the malnutrition he endured in a Japanese prisoner of war camp during World War
II. He spent four years in the camp after the fall of the British military base at Fort Stanley.
On Sunday, Ron led 100 fellow veterans down the streets of London as part of the UK's commemorations of the armistice, 100 years since the end of the
First World War. There was a light drizzle -- it doesn't seem to have deterred him .
Two months ago, he made the journey to lay a wreath at the Dernancourt Communal Cemetery in France, where his father lost his own life in 1918. Ron
was 3 years old when his father died in the First World War; he nonetheless joined the army at age 15, eight years before the outbreak of the Second
World War. Two generations of a family sacrificed to the service of a nation.
There has been plenty written in the last few days about President Donald Trump's failure to attend the armistice commemorations at the Aisne-Marne
American Cemetery in France on Saturday -- and on what it means for his status in America as commander in chief of the armed forces. Less has been
written on what it means for America's relationship with its allies.
US veterans have every right to be offended by Trump's inability to face a little rain. (Aisne-Marne cemetery had been chosen by the international
community to show respect to the Americans; Trump's absence led to the bizarre image of foreign leaders gathering together in a predominantly American
cemetery.)
But consider, too, the message it sends to those of us whose nations have served alongside American troops, often under American command. US
presidents, it seems, are happy to send European troops into the face of battle in Iraq and Afghanistan, but not to travel 50 miles to mourn our
shared war dead.
As a Brit, I have spent my life in love with the idea of America. I have lived in America, been educated in America, loved in America. No surprise,
then, that I've always been deeply committed to the idea of Anglo-American military cooperation: Get a gin and tonic into me and I've even been known
to try to convince British leftists that the invasion of Iraq, with better planning, could have been a good thing.
I'm just one person, political idiosyncrasies and all. But Trump's insult to the joint military forces who served in both world wars will appall many
of America's friends abroad. It makes it harder and harder to justify our continued alliances. As the British columnist Matthew d'Ancona wrote on the
day of Trump's inauguration, "for a passionate Atlanticist like me, this is an hour of sheer despair." With each affront to America's allies, the rest
of us feel the same.
No one can seriously believe the various excuses made by Team Trump for what appears to be sheer laziness this weekend, so I will not grace them with
much analysis here. There is no difficulty getting from Paris to Belleau in a light drizzle. Helicopters can fly in rain; presidents can take cars.
(The other world leaders all managed.)
As the former Obama speechwriter Ben Rhodes tweeted, on presidential trips, "There is always a rain option. Always." True, the President is a man of
72. Here in Britain, the queen's consort Prince Philip continued to accompany her to public commemorations until his recent retirement at age 96. Then
again, unlike President Trump, he is a war veteran who despite his flaws understands the concept of service.
One thing's for sure. In pulling this sulk, President Trump has managed to ensure the story of this armistice centenary is all about him -- in
splendid American isolation. For other world leaders, the weekend was a carefully planned show of diplomatic alliances. British Prime Minister Theresa
May paid her respects at WWI graves on Friday, alongside French President Emmanuel Macron and Belgian Prime Minister Charles Michel (a member of the
public crashing into their cavalcade didn't stop them), before returning to London to lay a wreath alongside the German President at Britain's
Cenotaph memorial.
The Queen, 92, also showed up. For all her wealth and privilege, she is loved here in Britain for having got her hands dirty as a truck mechanic in
World War II.
I believe,unfashionable as it is, that European and American military might has a major role to play in spreading democracy around the world. Living
in the United States, I put my hand on my heart to "The Star-Spangled Banner" on Veterans Day and shook the hands of American servicemen in gratitude
for their service.
But it gets harder and harder to explain to my countrymen why they should fight and die alongside the flag of a nation whose commander in chief sees
honoring our shared war dead -- or celebrating peace with our former adversaries -- as a chore better evaded.
If Ron Freer can make it to a French cemetery at the age of 103, I'm not sure why Donald Trump can't. Then again, perhaps President Trump doesn't
believe in honoring men like Freer. I understand he prefers war heroes who didn't get captured."
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well said ged.
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motoged
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Quote: Originally posted by AKgringo | Ged, which branch did you serve in? This post was started as a brief call out to fellow Nomad veterans, with no political stand.
Your reply is really out of place here and will just lead to another annoying hijack! |
Gary,
I respect and honour people who have put their life on the line through military and law enforcement, and other first responders....my point is that
it is unfortunate your president (Private Bonespur) can't do the same.
I don't think one has to have served in the military to understand and respect....and honour such brothers ... and sisters.
There is no secret handshake for that.
Your president's behaviour is far more inappropriate than my link to an article.
Gary, whether you had "served" or not, are you proud of your Commander in Chief with his snub to those who had fallen?
Don't believe everything you think....
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JoeJustJoe
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Quote: Originally posted by pacificobob | nobody who knows me well will "thank me for my service" allowing my self to be drafted and subsequent excursion to viet nam was the worst decision of
my life. i regret it every day. war is a waste, and those who go fight and die for the interests of the wealthy are rubes. imho
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Well said, and I won't thank you for your service as you requested.
If fact I never thank anybody for their military service, because not since World War II, was any country a threat to the United States, and on the
contrary the United States, is a threat to small nations without nukes.
So I don't see any military veterans protecting me and my family, as I see them protection, Dow Chemical Company, in the Vietnam war, or Halliburton,
in the Iraq wars. It's not worth your life to die for defense corporations, or blindly follow the orders of a guy with more stripes on his shirt.
I also won't hold it against Trump, because he took a rain check than honoring American killed in WWI. I have a lot of other current issues that I
rather hold against Trump.
That said, I honor all workers, who put food on the table for their families, but I will not single out Military vets, or first responders, anymore
than the neighborhood trash man.
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Howard
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PLEASE, take your off topic crap elsewhere and leave this thread alone!
We don't stop playing because we grow old;
we grow old because we stop playing
George Bernard Shaw
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tobias
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Man you gotta have a thick skin to hang out on this board!
"oh look , here is a nice thread thanking vets for their service , lets see whats".... BAM, surprise attack ! Toma cabron!!
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