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mtgoat666
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Quote: Originally posted by gnukid  |
This photo is a strategically orchestrated tool to pull at heartstrings.
Ask: What type of parent would drag underdressed children into extremely dangerous border situation, rush police barricades to run into border traffic
attempting to cross, which is certain to put the kids at risk of serious life threatening injury and is certain to have a negative outcome. The region
of the photo is a war zone of dangerous criminals who live in the river basin and do drugs and is controlled by cartels. Her behavior is outrageous
and criminal on many levels. What kind of person would promote and support this treatment of children?
Absurd
[Edited on 11-26-2018 by gnukid] |
She is a refugee, has zero money, is living at the end of her rope. She is probably grasping for one last chance. And you pronounce she should not
be a refugee? Should she go back to her country club life in Nicaragua?
Not everyone has the benefits you received, she probably did not have wealthy parents to give her fancy education and trust fund like you.
Woke!
“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
Prefered gender pronoun: the royal we
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Bubba
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| Quote: Originally posted by gnukid |
This photo is a strategically orchestrated tool to pull at heartstrings.
[Edited on 11-26-2018 by gnukid] |
No doubt.
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| Quote: Originally posted by gnukid |
It has been demonstrated that the migrants are not who they are being portrayed as, they are paid political activist, manipulated to cause chaos, not
all unlike Antifa activists, who are increasingly violent and disruptive to society, yet
If you have compassion, have compassion for those people who respect communities and their laws, those that follow legal paths for migration and who
want to work and contribute to a stable, secure healthy community.]
People who promote societal destabilization, and threaten our communities and their families with lawless invasions of disruptive people, should be
seen for who they are. No rational person would support this mass threat to our community and way of life.
[Edited on 11-26-2018 by gnukid] |
Plagiarized from The Daily Stormer. Any more original thoughts out there?
US Marines: providing enemies of America an opportunity to die for their country since 1775.
What I say before any important decision.
F*ck it.
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https://www.keyt.com/news/national-world/mexico-says-migrant...
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gnukid
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| Quote: Originally posted by Lee | | Quote: Originally posted by gnukid |
It has been demonstrated that the migrants are not who they are being portrayed as, they are paid political activist, manipulated to cause chaos, not
all unlike Antifa activists, who are increasingly violent and disruptive to society, yet
If you have compassion, have compassion for those people who respect communities and their laws, those that follow legal paths for migration and who
want to work and contribute to a stable, secure healthy community.]
People who promote societal destabilization, and threaten our communities and their families with lawless invasions of disruptive people, should be
seen for who they are. No rational person would support this mass threat to our community and way of life.
[Edited on 11-26-2018 by gnukid] |
Plagiarized from The Daily Stormer. Any more original thoughts out there?
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I wrote this myself at the moment, as evidenced by the misspellings and errors in grammar, and have not read the source you mention. I suppose many
of us have similar thoughts, based on observation, experience and history, just as I see alignment with your distinctly different thoughts, chorused
but others here.
For example, here in BCS there is no sympathy or tolerance for the Central American invasion. The public sentiment is you are welcome to visit as a
tourist, then you need to leave or migrate legally. The events are clearly orchestrated political nonsense, and a waste of of energy and time and
threat to our security.
Lee, why don't you put your money where your mouth is and welcome the Central American caravan into your house and pay for them to live with you in
Todos Santos?
[Edited on 11-26-2018 by gnukid]
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gnukid
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| Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 | | Quote: Originally posted by gnukid |
This photo is a strategically orchestrated tool to pull at heartstrings.
Ask: What type of parent would drag underdressed children into extremely dangerous border situation, rush police barricades to run into border traffic
attempting to cross, which is certain to put the kids at risk of serious life threatening injury and is certain to have a negative outcome. The region
of the photo is a war zone of dangerous criminals who live in the river basin and do drugs and is controlled by cartels. Her behavior is outrageous
and criminal on many levels. What kind of person would promote and support this treatment of children?
Absurd
[Edited on 11-26-2018 by gnukid] |
She is a refugee, has zero money, is living at the end of her rope. She is probably grasping for one last chance. And you pronounce she should not
be a refugee? Should she go back to her country club life in Nicaragua?
Not everyone has the benefits you received, she probably did not have wealthy parents to give her fancy education and trust fund like you.
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Ad hominem personal attacks demonstrate that you have no facts to make your point, aside from the attacks being entirely false.
The woman in the photo is a symbolic mythical staged image. She would have had to arrive many thousands of miles, head into the Tijuana river basin,
run though a police barricade, across the basin, up the hill and apparently attempt to climb the fence with her babies, and run through the border
crossing, all which is extremely dangerous, suicidal, criminal and futile.
It's not possible for her to have arrived all this way without significant financial and organizational support, while being fed lies that she is
welcome, and ultimately stage this photo with clean clothes, wearing an "Elsa the ice queen" shirt, yet her kids have no shoes or belongings, dragging
her kids in harms way without shoes or clothes.
In any civilized country in the world this is recognized as totally irresponsible behavior endangering her kids, requiring community intervention to
rescue the children from her reckless behavior.
It's interesting that instead of the obvious conclusion that this requires intervention to stop her, instead you would encourage her to further her
criminal dangerous behavior on behalf of political destabilization. Clearly it's a paid social programming to incite polarization and social change,
and tolerance of a second or third class of illegal migrants to serve as low cost labor to push cost down and further create acceptance of lawlessness
and criminal corruption in the border area.
Ultimately the result of illegal immigration is that the individuals end up as victims of compromised situations without legal papers to identify as
their true identity. It's very sad that some of you promote this type of life leaving a long trail of victims, while you claim to be moral and
empathetic, you promote and support the cartels control over human trafficking victims.
[Edited on 11-26-2018 by gnukid]
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A lot of caravan, insensitive haters, have lots of incorrect information and made up BS on this thread about the migrants and their young children
who were victims of tear gas.
According to the Associated news, fake news, to the likes of David K. and Gnukid, because it's not "Fox News, the children were hundreds of feet away
from the fence, and were not attempting to enter the US, however, the wind carried the tear gas towards the children hundreds of feet
away.....therefore, it unlikely was not planned by the migrants, and for sure was not well thought through by the border patrol.
Shame on Trump, his administration, and the jack booted thugs, in ICE, and the border patrol.
To the rest of the world, and groups like Amnesty International, the United States, is acting like N-zi Germany.
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read the comments:
Children screamed and coughed amid the gas, The Associated Press reported. The wind carried the aerosol chemicals toward
people hundreds of feet away who were not attempting to enter the U.S., the wire service noted. One woman collapsed unconscious amid the chaos, and
two babies sobbed with tears running down their faces from the gas, Reuters reported.
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Amnesty International complained that “families are frightened and soldiers are shooting tear gas at toddlers. We must choose to be better
than this.”
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Anyone uncomfortable with spraying tear gas on children is welcome to join the coalition of the moral and the sane. We can argue about other stuff
when we’ve got our country back.
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Angelica Salas, executive director of The Coalition for Humane Immigrant Rights, called Sunday’s actions “a despicable act.”
“It is a despicable act on the part of the Trump administration and CBP officials to attack defenseless women and children firing tear gas, a
chemical agent, at them,” Salas said in a statement. “These are human beings who are reaching a point of desperation because their asylum claims
are being processed at a snail’s pace or not at all.”
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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez ✔ @Ocasio2018
Asking to be considered a refugee & applying for status isn’t a crime.
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/activists-react-with-ho...
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John Harper
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| Quote: Originally posted by gnukid |
For example, here in BCS there is no sympathy or tolerance for the Central American invasion. The public sentiment is you are welcome to visit as a
tourist, then you need to leave or migrate legally. |
Isn't applying for asylum an internationally recognized LEGAL way to migrate?
John
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I thought the way to apply for asylum is to legally get to the country of choice OR go to the embassy of the country you seek, in your own country.
This mob stormed through the southern Mexican border and some tried yesterday to storm through the American border.
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I like beer, better than most people.
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AND DK displays his ignorance once again...
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Here is an article from "Buzzfeed" that actually interviewed the Caravan migrant, with the two kids.
Read the facts before another "Baja Nomad" member, comes around and makes things up out of thin air or talks conspiracy theories.
And briefly from the article, the woman and her children were not trying to rush the fence, and one of her children lost her shoes while running.
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The Mother In This Iconic Photo Of Sunday’s Border Teargassing Was Thinking Only Of Getting Her Children To Safety
“I thought my kids were going to die with me because of the gas we inhaled.”
IJUANA, Mexico — The woman running with her two daughters in front of tear gas in the widely published photo from Sunday’s confrontation at the
border between some members of the caravan and US border authorities feels like crying when she looks at the image.
In an interview with BuzzFeed News, Maria Meza, 39, of Honduras said she was standing by the border fence with her five children when Border Patrol
agents fired at least three tear gas canisters at them.
“I felt sad, I was scared. I wanted to cry. That’s when I grabbed my daughters and ran,” Meza told BuzzFeed News. “I thought my kids were
going to die with me because of the gas we inhaled.”
The photo, taken by Kim Kyung-Hoon of Reuters, shows the single mother running from the gas in the Tijuana River bed, clutching her twin daughters’
arms.
read the rest here:
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/adolfoflores/mother-pho...
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| Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc | | Quote: Originally posted by caj13 |
when you educate yourself on the actual law - on requesting Asylum, then we can discuss. But since you are apparently ignorant of federal law on
this issue - how do you think you have a place at this table? |
ignorance is just alternative intelligence - we have to follow the example of the great leader
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bingo!
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pacificobob
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why? because they are often spot on!
[Edited on 11-27-2018 by pacificobob]
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I am in Tj . Business as usual, CBP says they can not predict the next closeing. At noon, I had never seen the Rio Tijuana so clean. 4pm, the
homeless guys are building a new camp, business as usual.
Did the migrants really tell the Mexicans that free tacos were only fit for animals, the same tacos the Mexicans eat?
the fat lady is breeding
which means
The fat ladys are breeding
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gnukid
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Se llama Honduras doña LADYFRIJOLES, she said the free food provided was food for pigs, just beans and tortillas... (sarcasm) they came for lobster
from Rosarito.
https://www.facebook.com/LasNoticiasMex/videos/5285250809436...
[Edited on 11-27-2018 by gnukid]
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This racist former Border Patrol, thug, claims that pepper spray is harmless, and you could put pepper spray on nachos!
Of course he says it on "Fox New," where the right-wing audience believes anything "Fox News" says.
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Border Patrol official: You could put pepper spray on nachos
A former top Border Patrol official said Monday that the pepper spray used to stop migrants from forcing their way across the US border to seek asylum
was so harmless, they could eat it on their nachos.
“It’s natural. You could actually put it on your nachos and eat it. It’s a good way of deterring people without long-term harm,” said
ex-Border Patrol deputy chief Ron Colburn, who served under President George W. Bush.
Colburn, speaking on “Fox & Friends,” decried what he called a “core of violence” among the hundreds of Central American asylum seekers, a
number of whom stormed the border at Tijuana, prompting Border Patrol agents to force them back.
The migrants, he said, had a “sense of entitlement,” and the use of tear gas, which also affected women and children as it wafted on the breeze,
was “absolutely” the right call.
But experts said that pepper spray wasn’t as harmless as Colburn suggested.
“There is no real scientific basis for the claim that OC [pepper] sprays are relatively safe,” according to a study from Duke University and the
University of North Carolina reported in the Daily Beast.
“In fact, a number of reports have associated serious adverse sequelae, including death, with legitimate use, as well as misuse and abuse, of these
sprays,” the authors wrote.
Human rights and immigration advocates called the use of pepper spray on women and children inhumane.
https://nypost.com/2018/11/26/border-patrol-official-you-cou...
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| Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 | | Quote: Originally posted by David K | The TV news today clearly showed Tear Gas was only used where the few dozen (young males) had forced through the border fence (the older fence next to
the newer one) to repel illegal crossers... and they quickly returned to Mexico... No women or children were seen.
I suspect the photo above, which is clearly inside Mexico at the river (no U.S. tear gas canisters were launched into Mexico), was a smoke bomb or
maybe tear gas, from Mexican law enforcement or Mexican protesters angry at the illegal Central Americans in their country?
How did this mother walk her children from Honduras without any shoes? |
Dk, where should they go to live or die? You got a solution for a refugee single mother with Kids? What does hannity recommend they do? Just roll
over and die? Will that make you happy? |
Goat---------they managed to get this far. I suspect they will figure out how to get back!
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A very unfortunate situation but maybe these people should not be rushing our border. It was quite a sight seeing them on the news channels rush
through Mexico's southern border. Did Mexico say they were willing to take in these asylum seekers? 
| Quote: Originally posted by JoeJustJoe | This racist former Border Patrol, thug, claims that pepper spray is harmless, and you could put pepper spray on nachos!
Of course he says it on "Fox New," where the right-wing audience believes anything "Fox News" says.
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Border Patrol official: You could put pepper spray on nachos
A former top Border Patrol official said Monday that the pepper spray used to stop migrants from forcing their way across the US border to seek asylum
was so harmless, they could eat it on their nachos.
“It’s natural. You could actually put it on your nachos and eat it. It’s a good way of deterring people without long-term harm,” said
ex-Border Patrol deputy chief Ron Colburn, who served under President George W. Bush.
Colburn, speaking on “Fox & Friends,” decried what he called a “core of violence” among the hundreds of Central American asylum seekers, a
number of whom stormed the border at Tijuana, prompting Border Patrol agents to force them back.
The migrants, he said, had a “sense of entitlement,” and the use of tear gas, which also affected women and children as it wafted on the breeze,
was “absolutely” the right call.
But experts said that pepper spray wasn’t as harmless as Colburn suggested.
“There is no real scientific basis for the claim that OC [pepper] sprays are relatively safe,” according to a study from Duke University and the
University of North Carolina reported in the Daily Beast.
“In fact, a number of reports have associated serious adverse sequelae, including death, with legitimate use, as well as misuse and abuse, of these
sprays,” the authors wrote.
Human rights and immigration advocates called the use of pepper spray on women and children inhumane.
https://nypost.com/2018/11/26/border-patrol-official-you-cou... |
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