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[*] posted on 12-1-2018 at 05:55 PM


Quote: Originally posted by JoeJustJoe  
Quote: Originally posted by DaliDali  



If Mexico did pay for the wall...would this put you on the side of "build it"?



No, because most of the undocumented Mexicans workers, do not sneak pass the wall. They overstay their Visas, or they are already in the USA.




"The number of "illegal" crossing attempts at the U.S. Southwest border triple in March compared with a year ago, the government says.
The number of crossing attempts last month grow 37 percent from February, setting a month-to-month record going back to 2011.
Overall, government data show there were a total of 50,308 people last month that were apprehended or deemed as "inadmissible" at the border"

Month after month, year after year.






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[*] posted on 12-1-2018 at 06:31 PM


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"The number of "illegal" crossing attempts at the U.S. Southwest border triple in March compared with a year ago, the government says.
The number of crossing attempts last month grow 37 percent from February, setting a month-to-month record going back to 2011.
Overall, government data show there were a total of 50,308 people last month that were apprehended or deemed as "inadmissible" at the border"

Month after month, year after year.





More people overstayed their visas in 2017 than crossed into the United States illegally that year, the Department of Homeland Security said Tuesday.

DHS said almost 702,000 people who entered the U.S. legally last year didn't leave the country in time, and were deemed to be in the U.S. illegally. That's just a bit more than 1 percent of the 52.7 million people who came as students, or for business or personal reasons last year.

That's more than the 361,993 who tried to enter the U.S. illegally last year, most of whom tried to enter at the southwest border.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/visa-overstays-outpa...







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[*] posted on 12-1-2018 at 07:36 PM


Quote: Originally posted by JoeJustJoe  
Quote: Originally posted by DaliDali  


"The number of "illegal" crossing attempts at the U.S. Southwest border triple in March compared with a year ago, the government says.
The number of crossing attempts last month grow 37 percent from February, setting a month-to-month record going back to 2011.
Overall, government data show there were a total of 50,308 people last month that were apprehended or deemed as "inadmissible" at the border"

Month after month, year after year.





More people overstayed their visas in 2017 than crossed into the United States illegally that year, the Department of Homeland Security said Tuesday.

DHS said almost 702,000 people who entered the U.S. legally last year didn't leave the country in time, and were deemed to be in the U.S. illegally. That's just a bit more than 1 percent of the 52.7 million people who came as students, or for business or personal reasons last year.

That's more than the 361,993 who tried to enter the U.S. illegally last year, most of whom tried to enter at the southwest border.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/visa-overstays-outpa...


Fifty thousand attempts thwarted last month at or along the border. Up from previous years by 30%

Fifty thousand a month, times 12 months....six hundred thousand annualized illegal entry attempts at the border.
Three million in five years...if the current rate stays current
Six million in ten years if the current rate stays current

H-2A Agricultural Workers visa
H2-B Non AG worker visa

Both available at any of the 9 US Consulates and US Embassy in Mexico. From Merida in the south to Tijuana in the north.

Just apply
Do the right thing.

Visa overstays are not typically the poor dirt farmer looking to pick lettuce. Nor are they the drug smuggler, human smuggler and child exploiters.
Poor dirt farmer often pays a coyote thousands$$ to lead them north.

"Migrants heading north to the United States not only have tougher immigration policies waiting for them north of the border, they have to pay a whole lot more to cross it"

"The tariffs charged by smugglers, known as coyotes or polleros, to get migrants across the border through the mountains have increased close to 130%, reports the newspaper Reforma. Last November the fee was of US $3,500 but by January smugglers were charging up to $8,000, under the argument that new policies in the U.S. made the illegal crossing riskier"

"Those who plan to enter the U.S. through border crossings — using documents of individuals with whom they have a close physical resemblance — are being charged more than $12,000"

H2-A visa application fee:.....$190 USD.

"The total education, medical, and incarceration costs in Arizona due to illegal immigration are $2.6 billion a year"

"The Arizona Department of Corrections estimates that 17% of its prison population is illegal aliens, and 22% of felony defendants in Maricopa County are illegal aliens"

"National Park rangers in Arizona are now heavily armed, and visitors are prohibited from visiting large areas of public parklands because of drug trafficking activity"

"Illegal aliens and their children were found to be 37 percent of the uninsured population in Arizona in 2008, and the cost of uncompensated care for illegal aliens in Arizona is $320 million annually"

Build it.





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[*] posted on 12-2-2018 at 02:12 AM


Spot on ....
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[*] posted on 12-2-2018 at 06:52 AM


The secretary of homeland security is white, blonde.
The people homeland security is gassing/deporting are brown skinned, dark haired.
The contrast is clear.

The border looks like the old iron curtain of the Cold War era.

Trump has said horrible, hateful things about immigrants. Repeatedly. Every time he opens his mouth.

There have been repeated statements from GOPers saying they don’t like immigrants because immigrants vote democrat.

It is clear the administration is waging a war against immigrants out of racist motivation and political gerrymandering.








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[*] posted on 12-2-2018 at 07:27 AM




"The tariffs charged by smugglers, known as coyotes or polleros, to get migrants across the border through the mountains have increased close to 130%, reports the newspaper Reforma. Last November the fee was of US $3,500 but by January smugglers were charging up to $8,000, under the argument that new policies in the U.S. made the illegal crossing riskier"

"Those who plan to enter the U.S. through border crossings — using documents of individuals with whom they have a close physical resemblance — are being charged more than $12,000"

H2-A visa application fee:.....$190 USD.

"The total education, medical, and incarceration costs in Arizona due to illegal immigration are $2.6 billion a year"

"The Arizona Department of Corrections estimates that 17% of its prison population is illegal aliens, and 22% of felony defendants in Maricopa County are illegal aliens"

"National Park rangers in Arizona are now heavily armed, and visitors are prohibited from visiting large areas of public parklands because of drug trafficking activity"

"Illegal aliens and their children were found to be 37 percent of the uninsured population in Arizona in 2008, and the cost of uncompensated care for illegal aliens in Arizona is $320 million annually"

Build it.

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[*] posted on 12-2-2018 at 08:31 AM


I think a lot of people have already built a wall, in their own minds. It results in binary thinking. An inability to compromise, or to see "gray" in anything. Both sides are likely guilty.

John

[Edited on 12-2-2018 by John Harper]
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[*] posted on 12-2-2018 at 09:17 AM


Quote: Originally posted by JoeJustJoe  
Quote: Originally posted by Barry A.  
All those Govt. people that are referred to above during a "govt. shutdown" will be paid and will work, as they are "essential" to the function of the Govt. during an emergency, and law enforcement in general. As a Fed. LE employee for 30 years, I was NEVER "shut down" or not paid.


Once again Barry, on Dec 7, the funding for the Department of Homeland Security runs out. It doesn't mean the border patrol, won't be working, it means they won't get paid. This probably also means there will be less border agents out there.

Now when the budget is passed they will get back pay, or perhaps a Gov shutdown can be avoided, if Trump, realizes he won't get all the funding he wants for the stupid wall. Perhaps, something else will come up to fund the department.

Now please stop with your so-called resume, it's irrelevant, and we talked about this in the OT before.
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Do you have a link like this Barry to back up anything you say?

Funding for the Department of Homeland Security and a handful of other agencies runs out Dec. 7, and a partial shutdown would go into effect unless Congress and Trump act before then. Trump wants the new money for a wall to be packaged as part of these spending bills.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/senate-repub...




I stand by what I said, and your link supports that.

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[*] posted on 12-2-2018 at 09:23 AM


Perhaps someone can point out the hate and racism in this quoted post below.

I personally do not see any hate, in the post .... only a request to cross legally into the United States as spelled out in CFR

And that most of these individuals have "brown skin" has nothing to do with it .... IF they were Asian's, African's et al living across the border to the south and were NOT following current Law ... my position on following the requirements as passed by Congress and codified into Law, would be the same, at this time

Quote: Originally posted by DaliDali  


"The number of "illegal" crossing attempts at the U.S. Southwest border triple in March compared with a year ago, the government says.
The number of crossing attempts last month grow 37 percent from February, setting a month-to-month record going back to 2011.
Overall, government data show there were a total of 50,308 people last month that were apprehended or deemed as "inadmissible" at the border"

Month after month, year after year.

Fifty thousand attempts thwarted last month at or along the border. Up from previous years by 30%

Fifty thousand a month, times 12 months....six hundred thousand annualized illegal entry attempts at the border.
Three million in five years...if the current rate stays current
Six million in ten years if the current rate stays current

H-2A Agricultural Workers visa
H2-B Non AG worker visa

Both available at any of the 9 US Consulates and US Embassy in Mexico. From Merida in the south to Tijuana in the north.

Just apply
Do the right thing.

Visa overstays are not typically the poor dirt farmer looking to pick lettuce. Nor are they the drug smuggler, human smuggler and child exploiters.
Poor dirt farmer often pays a coyote thousands$$ to lead them north.

"Migrants heading north to the United States not only have tougher immigration policies waiting for them north of the border, they have to pay a whole lot more to cross it"

"The tariffs charged by smugglers, known as coyotes or polleros, to get migrants across the border through the mountains have increased close to 130%, reports the newspaper Reforma. Last November the fee was of US $3,500 but by January smugglers were charging up to $8,000, under the argument that new policies in the U.S. made the illegal crossing riskier"

"Those who plan to enter the U.S. through border crossings — using documents of individuals with whom they have a close physical resemblance — are being charged more than $12,000"

H2-A visa application fee:.....$190 USD.

"The total education, medical, and incarceration costs in Arizona due to illegal immigration are $2.6 billion a year"

"The Arizona Department of Corrections estimates that 17% of its prison population is illegal aliens, and 22% of felony defendants in Maricopa County are illegal aliens"

"National Park rangers in Arizona are now heavily armed, and visitors are prohibited from visiting large areas of public parklands because of drug trafficking activity"

"Illegal aliens and their children were found to be 37 percent of the uninsured population in Arizona in 2008, and the cost of uncompensated care for illegal aliens in Arizona is $320 million annually"

Build it.





[Edited on 12-2-2018 by wessongroup]
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[*] posted on 12-2-2018 at 11:06 AM


My posts in OT are not any different than what I'm posting here at this time, as it relates to illegal Immigration.as defined in Title 8 CFR

Not sure what my wife's genetic makeup has to do with illegal immigration.

Which is 44% Native American, 46% Iberian Peninsula with a couple percent from Western Europe

The whole family 8 women and 3 men plus the mother moved from Sonora to TJ after the revolution and then the purge against the Catholic's ... they lost everything and arrived in TJ in the late 20's with nothing

Migrated across from TJ over the years, with the grand mother staying in TJ ... until her death @ 102 in 1965 ... one brother stayed on the other side and worked in TJ on the produce market ... The whole family worked in Ag ... As did I ... and I supported the UFW until Chavez joined up with the "urban" La Raza folks to gain more political "juice" for the "cause"


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