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[*] posted on 11-30-2018 at 01:25 PM


We just had a ton of rain here so I think the rivers have flushed out and it's probably muddy.
I hope it's nice tomorrow.
Crystal Cove is a very good training ground for Baja!;)


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[*] posted on 11-30-2018 at 02:26 PM


Crystal Cove! Oh the memories! I grew up there in house 30. Ahhh the good ol days:)
Since I fish only around Pt. Chivato I mostly use the light stuff. Bait should work. I just haven't had much luck around here but others have done well for trigerfish using wire leader hooks.
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[*] posted on 11-30-2018 at 02:45 PM


Picked these up off ebay for cheap. I will let you know if any work.

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[*] posted on 11-30-2018 at 03:02 PM


Green one.



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[*] posted on 11-30-2018 at 07:21 PM


Wow! To fish halibut in Oregon you have to go way out and super deep water. Books...I need more books!

Thank you again for all the tips..I really do appreciate it!
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[*] posted on 12-1-2018 at 07:26 AM


Quote: Originally posted by Russ  
An 8 foot steelhead rod will be good and fun for shore fishing. 5/8 & 3/4 oz Castmaster & Crocodile lures to start. You may want to update to a good casting reel like the Curado 300 and cheap spinning outfits in 8 & 15 lb class. I like the braid lines maybe 20 or 30lb. In my area big surf fish are a rarity but nice to dream a bit with heavier gear.


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This^, especially on the Krocs in different sizes and colors.




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[*] posted on 12-1-2018 at 08:14 AM


Quote: Originally posted by ReTire  
Wow! To fish halibut in Oregon you have to go way out and super deep water. Books...I need more books!

Thank you again for all the tips..I really do appreciate it!


The fish they call “halibut” in baja is not same as pacific halibut fished in North Pacific.





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[*] posted on 12-1-2018 at 08:55 AM


Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  
Quote: Originally posted by ReTire  
Wow! To fish halibut in Oregon you have to go way out and super deep water. Books...I need more books!

Thank you again for all the tips..I really do appreciate it!


The fish they call “halibut” in baja is not same as pacific halibut fished in North Pacific.



The North Pacific Ocean is defined as those ocean waters north of the Equator.

Whereas the South Pacific Ocean is from the Equator south.


So a California halibut (those in Baja) and the Pacific Halibut (those in the PacNorWest/AK)) are both dwellers in the North Pacific Ocean.

Range: California halibut occur from Magdalena Bay, Baja California, to the Quillayute River, British Columbia

Pacific halibut (Hippoglossus stenolepis) are large flatfish that can be found from the Bering Sea in Alaska to northern California.




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[*] posted on 12-1-2018 at 08:57 AM


I would save the money on a fancy new surf rod / reel and get a cheap Sevlor inflatable kayak. You would need a Mexican fishing license, but just getting offshore a 100 yards or so can make all the difference; drop a hunk of squid straight down with a cheap big 5 rod, no lost lures. Of course if you like the aesthetic of fishing from shore more power to you.
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[*] posted on 12-1-2018 at 02:31 PM


Quote: Originally posted by bajaric  
I would save the money on a fancy new surf rod / reel and get a cheap Sevlor inflatable kayak.


I had one, sold it after using a few times. They don't track (no keel), are a nightmare in the wind (no draft), and with two people you end up doing spins every few minutes as the nose tracks off course so far you can't recover. We gave the folks on shore at Lake Mary a good laugh, for sure. God help you if a strong offshore wind comes up, better pray there's a distant shore to stop you before you end up in the middle of the SOC. Also, you have to watch the inflation pressure as the sun will heat up the chambers if you leave it laying on the beach. Save your money, it's a toy.

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[*] posted on 12-2-2018 at 07:26 AM


Quote: Originally posted by John Harper  
Quote: Originally posted by bajaric  
I would save the money on a fancy new surf rod / reel and get a cheap Sevlor inflatable kayak.


I had one, sold it after using a few times. They don't track (no keel), are a nightmare in the wind (no draft), and with two people you end up doing spins every few minutes as the nose tracks off course so far you can't recover. We gave the folks on shore at Lake Mary a good laugh, for sure. God help you if a strong offshore wind comes up, better pray there's a distant shore to stop you before you end up in the middle of the SOC. Also, you have to watch the inflation pressure as the sun will heat up the chambers if you leave it laying on the beach. Save your money, it's a toy.

John


All true, John, also sharp spines from fish can easily puncture the thin skin. Still, after casting for surf fish with varying amounts of success I got a Sevlor and was able to venture a short distance off the beach and access a greater variety. To be honest I don't fish much any more, after the time and effort and hassle of cleaning them and getting rid of the guts I decided it was easier just to buy fish. I was at a fish camp on the SOQ and I gave a guy a beer one morning and later that afternoon he returned with a big fillet for me. I asked him what kind of fish and he said "Tot- " uh, THAT fish (with the swim bladder). Not sure if that is a generic name for a big white fish or if it really was one, he seemed unaware of prohibitions. Cooked it a la Veracruz. It had a mild flavor, though it was a bit mushy. Before anyone gets all excited this was way far south of the Vaquita protection area.
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[*] posted on 12-2-2018 at 07:47 PM
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Quote: Originally posted by ReTire  
1st timer going to Baja mid January. Going to spend most of my time on the Cortes side, some on the Pacific too.


There is very little surf on the Cortez side. The beaches have no breaking waves and it's usually rocky below the low tide line where there is a sandy beach.
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[*] posted on 12-2-2018 at 08:29 PM


I use a 12' Surf Caster from Jansen in Cabo. http://www.jansen.mx/esp/.

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[*] posted on 12-3-2018 at 12:48 AM
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Quote: Originally posted by 55steve  
Daiwa Lexa 300 HS with 50 lb braid and 20 lb fluoro leader paired with an old school 7' Lamiglass rod. Caught/released at Bahia de Los Angeles.

Nice. I just bought a Lexa 300 and 400 HD on eBay...they were running a great deal. Also got two 300 yard spools of 60# dark green J Braid...probably a little heavy for surf fishing, but thought they may be good for kelp cutting on Pacific side. Plan on finishing them with flouro leaders...good to know this reel will work for surf fishing.

Which is the HS model? I'm pretty sure the HD has the stainless gears...and I got the 6.3:1 ratio.





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[*] posted on 12-3-2018 at 07:10 AM


There are some east cape fishing reports that are helpful. Check out thebajaponyexpress.com recent issues for the most recent ones.
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[*] posted on 12-3-2018 at 11:23 AM


Lee got it right if you want to have some success. Most successful traditional MX surf fishers (handlines) are there before the sun rises and off the beach an hour after sunrise. Need to cast as far out as possible with a super fast retrieve.
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[*] posted on 12-3-2018 at 11:23 AM


Nice day here in Newport. Maybe throw a lure today.
Need to get down to Crystal Cove and pretend I'm in Baja for a few hours.
Going to check out the camping too. Gotta practice camping. I can always go home of I get cold.




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[*] posted on 12-3-2018 at 07:13 PM


www.tides4fishing.com

The guys at Charkbait in Huntington Beach swear by fish activity indicated by solunar calendars like the one above...say they can even predict customer traffic by them. Tight lines.

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[*] posted on 12-3-2018 at 10:02 PM


Thanks ... brings back some great memories .. .
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[*] posted on 12-4-2018 at 11:40 AM
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Distance is not what its all cracked up to be! Halibut can be caught on both sides in knee deep water chasing bait and on the cold side jumping often.
These pic's were taken on the cold side using K/m's for the Butts andd squid for the WSB in very shallow water.........use 3/8 blue/crhome K/M's for many kinds of fish on both sides.
7' rod with either spinner/bait reels and 10# is plenty.....is just a start with but will get you going......have a great trip
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