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chuckie
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Border Fence-1987
Border Fence 1987, South of Patagonia Az. Access on the Honor system. Gate in foreground provided access to Mexico. Please close after you. Kindr
times and nicer people. pic needs resized..duno how to dothat-HELP!
[Edited on 12-4-2018 by BajaNomad]
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ehall
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Old ranch south of Arivaca az. Chain link fence with a gate big enough to drive our quads through.
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Paco Facullo
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No wonder people long for the "good O'l day's"
Since I've given up all hope, I feel much better
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pacificobob
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i know a gal who has a multi-thousand-acre ranch in southeast AZ bordering for miles to mexico. the fence there looks about like that one.
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sancho
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Saw a bit on TV, the original fence was put up to keep cattle
with some desiese from coming over. Tomorrow, I believe on
Discovery Channel is some live show from the border. Last
week walked to the beach, so. Imperial beach, where the fence
goes into the ocean. Then standing in the SY Outlet Mall,
realizing the caravan camp was 300' so., makes one super
appreciate, by happenstance, how fortunate one is to be born in the US
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StuckSucks
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In '86 I worked for 4-5 months in El Centro. On days off I rode my dirt bike in the desert, which included into Mexico (west of Mexicali). The only
thing marking the border were bench marks and the occasional small monument.
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JZ
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Those are cool stories. So what's the wall look like in those rural spots today?
[Edited on 12-5-2018 by JZ]
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MrBillM
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Access and Honor 1987
Given that President Reagan signed the Immigration Reform and Control act in November 1986 to "solve" the problem of 3.2
million who violated the honor system, that fence may be a poor example.
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chuckie
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What does the fence have to do with not enforcing the law?
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MrBillM
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Good Fences .............
.......... Keep people in their place.
Or, at least, help.
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chuckie
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The quote is "Good fences make good neighbors" Mexico until lately has always been a good neighbor...
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bajabuddha
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The United States has been a good neighbor to the whole world 'till lately...... 
I don't have a BUCKET LIST, but I do have a F***- IT LIST a mile long!
86 - 45*
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Perceburzr
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Making sure that trade is equal and making sure people enter the USA legally , makes the USA a bad neighbor ???? When I enter Mexico I have to have
the proper paperwork . 
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msawin
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Me to.
Proper paper work
ok.....
Immigration.
Insurance.
Pass Port.
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chuckie
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The nut cases have arrived...Were they even BORN in 1987..OR Can they just not read?
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LancairDriver
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No, they have just elevated the post to a higher level. Now the sarcastic rhetoric can start to bring it down to normal. It’s just part of the
entertainment.
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Bubba
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Quote: Originally posted by Perceburzr  | | Making sure that trade is equal and making sure people enter the USA legally , makes the USA a bad neighbor ???? When I enter Mexico I have to have
the proper paperwork . |
You're making to much sense, knock it off!
Making America Great Again
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Pacifico
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Annnddddd……..the name calling begins! Another typical BN post gone sideways...
"Plan your life as if you are going to live forever. Live your life as if you are going to die tomorrow." - Carlos Fiesta
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Barry A.
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| Quote: Originally posted by StuckSucks | | In '86 I worked for 4-5 months in El Centro. On days off I rode my dirt bike in the desert, which included into Mexico (west of Mexicali). The only
thing marking the border were bench marks and the occasional small monument. |
Interesting! In 1985 my son and I returned to the USA in a 4x4 pickup from a Mexico camping weekend at about the same place you mention here (via
Pinto Wash---no fence) and were almost immediately arrested by the Border Patrol and escorted to the Calexico/Mexicali Border station for processing.
Very embarrassing since I was a Supervisory Federal Law Enforcement Officer at the time, and my son was an Attorney. We were detained for 3 hours,
and then released with a stern warning. Lesson learned----- Never did THAT again, and we should have known better..
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David K
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| Quote: Originally posted by Barry A. | | Quote: Originally posted by StuckSucks | | In '86 I worked for 4-5 months in El Centro. On days off I rode my dirt bike in the desert, which included into Mexico (west of Mexicali). The only
thing marking the border were bench marks and the occasional small monument. |
Interesting! In 1985 my son and I returned to the USA in a 4x4 pickup from a Mexico camping weekend at about the same place you mention here (via
Pinto Wash---no fence) and were almost immediately arrested by the Border Patrol and escorted to the Calexico/Mexicali Border station for processing.
Very embarrassing since I was a Supervisory Federal Law Enforcement Officer at the time, and my son was an Attorney. We were detained for 3 hours,
and then released with a stern warning. Lesson learned----- Never did THAT again, and we should have known better..
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In the late 1960s, my parents and I went rock-hounding in our Jeep Wagoneer to the desert around Ocotillo (on Old Hwy. 80, before I-8 was built). An
old timer at the stone-walled cafe in Ocotillo told us of stories of the past (like when General Patton used the desert there to train for North
Africa duty and all the trees that once grew there were plowed down by the tanks). Anyway, he gave us advice on where to find specimens and told us
about the petrified wood and agate located just south of the border, south from Ocotillo and Pinto Wash. We drove south on a typical Jeep road and
there was a rock-pile marking the border. U.S. was painted on one side, and Mex on the other... no fence and we just drove on south to 'Agate
Mountain'. On the return, I seem to recall that we saw a border patrol Jeep CJ-5 and just waited until he left the area... and came back north. I love
having these great 4-wheeling and Baja memories when I was a kid!
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